if pellegrini doesnt get the tin tack

doh!

IF they don't win the league it was lost in the first 3 months, some results that look really poor now

bottle,s gone, got all their wins and goals playing 2 up top but lately gone the way of every epl manager bar rodgers and played 1 up front,

why i havnt got a clue surely if nothing else this season should mark the end of the defensive midfielder or in most cases non defensive midfielder,there were 4 on show intodays match and it could have been 7 all,how many more chances could have been created if theyd played 4 strikers in midfield

Wenger has a long unbroken record of building mentally weak teams that fluff it up under pressure. They've come close many times, but haven't won anything in years. Even their FA Cup win was a bit of a fluke - rarely have I seen a top team so utterly outplayed by another top team.

As Nilsson says, if Man City do go on to lose it, it'll be down to the start to the season. And, in fairness to Pellegrini, you've got to give a manager a little slack in his first season. City are clearly a very difficult bunch of players to motivate, and Pellegrini himself probably took the first few matches for granted - I doubt he would have been expecting the fierce battling from Cardiff, for example.

He's done a much better job of motivating the players than Mancini did. And the competition at the top is tougher this year. So he certainly deserves another year.

They're not out of it yet, by the way. Win their two games in hand, and they're only a point behind Liverpool, and City will probably finish with a better goal difference. On the face of it, winning the remaining matches looks quite do-able.

No CL or cup distractions. And of their remaining games, only Everton away looks tricky, and even that one I'd expect City to win.  Liverpool have a difficult match against Chelsea, and could bend under the pressure themselves as they play the other matches. Everything to play for yet.

tougher this year,is that a wind up how can it be tougher with no fergie and utd bombing,its that tough basicaly the same l,pool side has improved by about 40 points,

fat lady is not singing set, even though liverpool fans have a hard on.

agree no trophies for Pellegrini = sack

1st Time, if you think the current Liverpool side are effectively the same as they were last year, you really don't know much about football.        Many of the same players, yes, but they've made massive improvements as a team since the beginning of last year.    The arrival of Sturridge seems to have made a big difference, but otherwise it's been a case of the many youngsters blossoming over the course of last two years, along with BR getting better at putting his methods across.

Chelsea much tougher, too, since they've kept at it for the whole season, rather than imploding in the middle third, as they did last year.

Even Arsenal are improved over last year, even if they've done their usual late-season dive.


PS: Why is this thread not in the Football forum? Is it so that non-football people can post utter crud without the risk of it being ripped apart by people who know what they're talking about?

think arsenal lost 6 at city,6 at chelsea,5 at l,pool,lost at utd and lost by 3 at everton ,must have been poor last season,

usual late season dive unbeaten in last dozen or so last season,maybe thats why you avoid the football forum seem to mistake facts for journo,media hype machine

Last season Arse were never anywhere near winning the title. It was far from a usual season for them, and Arsene almost got the sack there and then.

Whenever they put in a strong first half of the season (as they have this year), they bomb in the closing stages.  But then, somebody who knew about football would know that....

they bomb out when they play the big teams especialy away whether thats august,sept or march and april

They bomb under pressure. Always do. That's why the pressure builds on Wenger.  It's not just about this season.   And that's why Wenger is under big pressure, while MP isn't particularly.  City won't be sacking Pellegrini this summer, even if they do fall short.

Wonder what the record is for the most times a BF poster has used the word 'pressure' in the same post...

Whatever it is, you have put it under stern pressure.

Only one team can win the Premiership

still this is what these high profile managers get paid for

I don't think he has done that bad a job personally

This is a high stakes and high risk job

ps

Brendan Rogers has done a superb job

but not over yet

Arsenal have not improved whatsoever .

Thye were top in November/December simply due to having much the easiest fixtures first 15 games and there not being any outstanding teams that could win 13/15 regardless of opposition.

City have too many weaknesses that show themselves with regularity to reasonably expect them to win 6/6 . The no margin for error situation they are in now makes it more likely these failings will be exposed again IMO.

Arsenal were pretty lacklustre for much of last season. With RVP ripped away from them compounding the earlier exit of players like Fabregas, they were really struggling for any sort of form or star quality. Many of their first-half-of-the-season performances were utterly lifeless. They weren't too bad in the second half, but it was hardly a return to the swash-buckling form of old.

For the first half of this season, though, they were playing the best football of anyone. Ramsey, in particular, was sublime, and some of the passing was astounding.  They were drawn in a hard CL group, but managed to qualify nonetheless. It was in the second half that their old problems returned. That wasn't helped by injuries to Ramsey and Walcott, but essentially their heart tumbled out as soon as they were asked to get tough.

a la French resistance

oh no please not the old walcott becomes a 10 times better player the moment he hits a stretcher,

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sideshowbob     13 Apr 14 14:36 
theres summat wrong somewhere
hopeless manager
lost to wigan in the facup
crap in the european champions cup league
3rd in the league
getting absolutely tw@tted by liverpool
all the stick arsene vengaboys gets, why does pellegrini get away with this crapola?

Never understood the logic of football management.
The manager didn't fail to score goals, the team did.
Any company I worked for, if people facked up they got the sack, not the boss.

themover

we all put up posts we later regret Bob

who is that in father xmas outfit?

Tbf you have got benefit of hindsight mover. Liverpool could easily won this.

What would you lot do without football ?

Facts -- Sit around posting  on an internet forum

when the premiership season is over it all seems such an anti climax, although tbf I'm no football fan. Does there now follow a period of revelling, with the victors marching around in their 50 quid nylon shirts singing the likes of "we are the champions?"

dont regret it at all, i think hes a hopeless manager. they should have won the league by 10 points how crap everybody else has been.

would a fergie-man utd have lost at home to wigan in the cup with a full strength team? or drew (and very nearly lost) at home to sunderland when the title was on the line? they only won it cos stevie g-tard fell on his arse. not good enough when you look at the players they have.

ok Bob

I can never knock a winner

I felt a little sorry for Liverpool though

bob

Pellegrini found a team in dressing room disarray with dangerous factions springing up all over the place largely down to Mancini. Early results were poor as he bedded into the team, area and culture. Big challenge which he came through at the first time of asking. Of the top managers he and Rodgers should take a bow.

patrick