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sideshowbob
26 Oct 13 13:39
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not so keen on the racism, especially the converstion with the major where he says the w and n words. and when manuel gets called a "dago twit", seems unnecessarily aggressive and not vaguely humorous. but still some very funny moments. the one with the old woman and her hearing aid is probably my favourite one. dragonfly 3.30 exeter. 14/1

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By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Oct 13 13:42
series 2 much better than 1, but class programme as we all know.
By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Oct 13 13:43
i like the one with the cat in it.
By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Oct 13 13:45
[Terry is examining a piece of possibly-poisoned veal the cat had been chewing on]

Terry: Right! Now, how's the cat?

Basil Fawlty: [Incredulously] How's the c...? How's the cat? We're about to take the life of a public health inspector and you want to know "how's the cat"? IT'S GONE TO LONDON TO SEE THE QUEEN!


Laugh
By:
sideshowbob
When: 26 Oct 13 13:52
i cant really remember the cat. im just rewatching them again and obviously cant have got that far yet.

the builders is a really average episode compared to some of them. gourmet night is probably the best episode of series 1. when basil looks inside the trifle for the duck, priceless moment. Laugh
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 26 Oct 13 13:55
Basil Fawlty was based on a real-life character - the owner of a hotel where the Python team stayed.

The fire-alarm scene is very funny. In 'The Germans' episode iirc
By:
sideshowbob
When: 26 Oct 13 13:58
fire! fire! f f f fire!
By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Oct 13 14:03
The cat  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k6T_MT7jNs           3-20 in
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 26 Oct 13 14:05
What was the name of the horse, Polly?

Flying Tart. No, no, it got off to a flying startLaugh
By:
treble
When: 26 Oct 13 14:59
Bob, Basil calling Manuel a dago is lighthearted, and the whole point of the Majors racism was that he was obviously going senile and very much stuck in a past where these things were commonplace. Showing it in the way they did, along with his senility made us laugh not at his racism, but at how much of a senile old fruitcake he was.
By:
dustybin
When: 26 Oct 13 15:01
My brother knows every single line from each episode....as a family we have had to re live him acting as Basil everytime we meet up
By:
lfc1971
When: 26 Oct 13 15:02
The major was my favorite character,he seemed to have the perfect life,
its how i hope to end up.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 26 Oct 13 15:06
it wasnt basil calling him a dago twit, maybe basil does at some point as well i dunno, it was an extra. not sure if it was one of the irish builders or the bloke who delivered the gnome. one of those anyway. didnt seem lighthearted the way he said it.
By:
treble
When: 26 Oct 13 15:42
However, in the same episode, the p1ss was also taken out of the Irish.

No-one escaped p1sstaking in that programme, which is very much a staple of comedy from Python members.

No one nation or race was solely targeted. The English had enough moments where they were made to look stupid as well.

I remembered a few moments ago that I actually once e-mailed Gold to ask them out of interest why they cut out Del boy saying the word p**i, but not the major's scene. They replied (they had to due to subject matter imo) and informed me that Del boy is cut due to him being a mentally stable individual who is well aware of racism and political correctness. However, the Major's scene is left in as he is deemed by the censors to be suffering from a form of dementia and is unaware of the concept of racism. He cannot absorb current social attitudes and therefore still deems racist terms as normal vocab.
By:
treble
When: 26 Oct 13 15:44
Incidentall, it must also be noted that the BBC do cut it now. Gold obviously more liberal.

I wonder why Mischief
By:
lfc1971
When: 26 Oct 13 15:48
Of course the major may be the most same, and even liberal of all the characters.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 26 Oct 13 17:23
"lick of, lick of paint, give us a biscuit"
By:
The Priest
When: 26 Oct 13 17:40
In the German episode , the whole Fire alarm practice scene is the best thing in the whole series
By:
History Maker
When: 26 Oct 13 18:43
My grandfather died laughing, watching the scene where Basil is hitting his car with a branch.

Slightly ironic given that by all accounts he was a miserable sh*t.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 26 Oct 13 19:08
Victor Meldrew 's funnier than Basil Fawlty , Yes/No Confused
By:
Pandorica
When: 26 Oct 13 20:04
That's like the thread on Football Mc Moonbeam - George Hagi or George Best. Plain
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 26 Oct 13 20:35
Have watched them again and again down the years and will continue to do so. Loved the 70's and 70's TV and imo this topped the lot. I sincerely hope Gold retain the full versions and not start tampering for fear of offending. As for the best episode, would marginally nominate the one with the talented Geoffrey Palmer playing the Doctor who pronounces Mr Leeman is dead.

As for the 70's in general I always say if I could choose a shop to or work in it would be Grace Brothers, if I worked on public transport I would want to work with Stan and Jack on the buses, if I shared a bedsit I'd want Paula Wilcox, Richard O'Sullivan and Sally Thomsett as neighbours, and if I needed the Police I'd want Columbo to turn up.
By:
MadVlad
When: 26 Oct 13 21:03
and if you had a black neighbour ..........
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 26 Oct 13 21:16
It'd be Don Waddington, of course.
By:
akabula
When: 26 Oct 13 21:18
Surprised you were offended Bob. To me the racist is made to look the fool by their statements.
By:
elisjohn
When: 26 Oct 13 21:25
verbotene great memories there, how I had a crush on sids wife in bless this house, lusted after nina baden in love thy neighbour, and would love to be lord of the manor with Penelope keithLove
By:
MadVlad
When: 26 Oct 13 21:25
I bought the "luv thy neighbour" boxset and very good it is Cool
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 26 Oct 13 21:38
Yes indeed, Sid's wife had something about her - I saw the Bless this House film on holiday in North Wales, in the Cinema in Bangor High St. Must also add that if I went back to school I'd want Mrs Richards as headmistress, John Alderton as a rteacher, and Peter Cleal as a classmate. And talking of John Aderton brings me to Pauline Collins, in the Upstairs Downstairs role....
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 26 Oct 13 21:42
Mad Vlad, you've reminded me that I'll have to start purchasing some of those boxsets from that era.I honestly couldn't name a single present day sitcom.
By:
Terminal Perversion
When: 26 Oct 13 21:42
Decent show but overrated , similar to Only Fools and Horses in that regard...
By:
elisjohn
When: 26 Oct 13 21:46
verbotene, sadly that cinema called the plaza now turned into a dominos shop,
By:
sideshowbob
When: 26 Oct 13 22:15

Oct 26, 2013 -- 9:18PM, akabula wrote:


Surprised you were offended Bob. To me the racist is made to look the fool by their statements.


wouldnt say it offends me, more it just wasnt funny or necessary.

everybody seems to agree that it shouldnt be cut, but personally i think it should be cut and the bcc were right if they cut those lines. id even go as far as saying the dvd set should have both versions, as it is it only has the uncut ones.

i dont like censorship, but those few fairly irrelevant lines cast a dated shadow that serves no real purpose. its not a big deal, virtually nobody would find it offensive but it adds nothing to the show and feels like it doesnt fit. the racism in porridge i think fits really well. its actually incredibly sweet compared to real life and it is a prison after all. the porridge scripts were light years ahead of their time, the fawlty towers ones sadly not quite up to that standard.

By:
treble
When: 26 Oct 13 22:18
I never found the FT racism any worse than the Porridge racism.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Oct 13 23:43
Amazing comments from sideshowbob he sounds a right bundle of laughs.
He must make his living out of stirring the sh!te.
By:
brngtwt
When: 27 Oct 13 00:01
Have to chime in here...
If I recall correctly the Fawlty Towers clip plays on the Major apparently being appalled at N word, but in reality he is nit picking because the "correct" racial slur was the W word.
Is that the clip?
If it's the same one,I think the Fawlty Towers one is genius.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 27 Oct 13 00:04

Oct 26, 2013 -- 11:43PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Amazing comments from sideshowbob he sounds a right bundle of laughs.He must make his living out of stirring the sh!te.


typical response from a typical ****

By:
akabula
When: 27 Oct 13 00:06
Now now Bob I hope that wasn't racist Tongue Out
By:
sideshowbob
When: 27 Oct 13 00:06
nope, it was c u n t
By:
akabula
When: 27 Oct 13 00:08
Sexist then Blush
By:
sideshowbob
When: 27 Oct 13 00:11
not at all. i didnt say he had a vagina, merely that he is one.

typical oh woe is me, you cant say anything these days without being locked up everythings gone pc mad blah blah bullshit merchant. every other episode managed to be funny, without the racist words. he is basically saying nothing can be funny without racist words. which is utterly fecking absurd.
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