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Emden
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Report JUGADOR MEJOR October 10, 2013 9:00 PM BST
I've just written a children's book. I hope to self publish it in the new year.
Report SqueezeFirmly October 10, 2013 10:47 PM BST
I was writing a book about the different gasses in the Universe. As I was finishing the chapter on Helium the doorbell rang. I put the book down to go and answer the door, and wWhen I came back I saw it floating away over the garden fence.
Report brassneck October 10, 2013 11:03 PM BST
I wrote a book about gambling called "THE MUG PUNTER'In it I said that the next time you are going well at the gambling look at the car you are driving and then look at the bookies car and ask yourself whos car is the best.The problem is you paid for both of themCry
Report SlippyBlue October 10, 2013 11:08 PM BST
I've never been tempted as my autobiography would end up in the fiction department as nobody would believe it was a true story. My boss in Spain did exactly that and it made for very hard reading. He had more demons than anyone I've ever known.
Report sideshowbob October 10, 2013 11:12 PM BST
im planning on writing a book next year, with a view to doing it as a new career. will be interesting cos i dont really read books, certainly not novels. no idea how to even set it out. in my mind it will be like a movie script. so not sure how to "think" in book form. but thats just details i spose.
Report kincsem October 10, 2013 11:14 PM BST
I would like to write a book about thoroughbred horse pedigrees.
Report raspberrybottom October 10, 2013 11:16 PM BST
Wrote a radio play. Sent it to the BBC.

They kept it for 5 months before informing me they weren't going to use it!

bob, there's loads of site giving advice on writing books, scripts, etc.
Report sideshowbob October 10, 2013 11:25 PM BST
im sure i will look into it. its not like i expect to just jump in and get it right. i will research different styles of writing. knowing me i will probably write three or for at the same time. so i can skip between them depending on my mood. then pick the one i like the most and rewrite it until im happy with it. i wonder if many writers have several books on the go at once?
Report Emden October 10, 2013 11:42 PM BST
The reason I asked was because I bumped into an old mucker who I hadn't seen for years.

I asked him what he was doing these days, and he said he was writing a book about his life, and he was hoping to get it published soon.

He is one of many I've met over the years who have either written or hoping to write a book. None of them have ever gone to print as far as I know.
Report themightymac October 10, 2013 11:51 PM BST
Don`t like to brag, but since you ask, I`ve had work published by HarperCollins and also in USA.
Report Emden October 10, 2013 11:51 PM BST
^^however he was upbeat and optimistic, so maybe writing is a form of therapy for some? It's a though some people feel they have a book in them?
Report Emden October 10, 2013 11:53 PM BST
Don`t like to brag, but since you ask, I`ve had work published by HarperCollins and also in USA.

wd mate

care to tell us what it was about?
Report themightymac October 10, 2013 11:55 PM BST
Emden, I wish your friend well, but unless he is a well known personality, he has no chance of getting a publisher. He can self publish but these companies refuse no one as they don`t care on the content or quality of the book, they are just in it to make money out of people`s dreams. That`s why they call it Vanity Publishing. His best option is to self publish it on Amazon Kindle. It costs nothing and is easy to do.
Report brassneck October 10, 2013 11:55 PM BST
If you write a page per night you have a 365 page book ready this day next yearExcited
Report themightymac October 10, 2013 11:58 PM BST
Thanks Emden. It was about Sport but I don`t want to elaborate for obvious reasons which I`m sure you will understand.
Report themightymac October 11, 2013 12:05 AM BST
Best advice that I can give anybody thinking about writing a book is - "DO IT". Have faith in yourself and go for it. However, like I said earlier, writing a book about your own life is a waste of time unless you are well known. Fiction is the best money spinner and if your book catches on, then you can hit the jackpot. Avoid "Vanity" publishers though, as you will be well out of pocket. Get an agent or self publish on Amazon Kindle. Look at the woman who wrote that Shades Of Grey or whatever you call it, multi millionaire now. Don`t tell friends, they`ll just laugh at you and destroy your confidence. Just do it and tell them when it is a success.
Report PatraTheCat October 11, 2013 2:30 AM BST
I would love to write a book one day. I regularly have ideas but don't seem to have the time or energy to see them through. Got a few pages into a cheesy maverick cop short story a year or two ago, but oddly, the only projects I've actually completed in recent times are a couple of short stories in Spanish.

Coincidentally though, when this thread hit the forum, I'd just planned to take a couple of days off next week to go to a quiet, sunny retreat, sit by the pool with my laptop and get started on my latest project - a science fiction, vaguely Matrixy affair about beings who can skip between worlds. One of them is drawn to this one...

Um, the ... is supposed to look mysterious, but tbh I'm not really sure what's going to happen next so I had to put ...
Report sideshowbob October 11, 2013 2:54 AM BST
i would defo self-publish. if i write a book, i would only want it published if i thought it was really good. no idea how you would self-publish in proper print form, but i probably have the finances to do it if i had confidence in it. no idea how you get shops to stock it, presumably would need to get a decent amount of online interest in it first.

im very self-critical, if i think ive written something good you can pretty much be sure it is good. im not concerned about it being a success, im concerned about actully being able to write something good. under no illusions, i know it wiil be difficult to do that. lots of hard work and imagination. whether im up to it i dont know, i think the main thing is being up for it. if you arent up for it, you just give up before you make it happen. like most things in life. its funny when people get into stuff expecting it to be quick and easy, if i properly try my hand at this i wouldn't expect to have any finished work for at least a year, maybe 2 years. nothing worthwhile ever comes easy.
Report kincsem October 11, 2013 4:07 AM BST
themightymac

How long did it take you to write the book?
Did you do many re-writes?

I read On Writing by Stephen King, and writing a book is a tough gig.
But I loved the bit in On Writing when he came home one day from his job as a schoolteacher(?) and opened a letter from his agent.
He had got $2,500 for Carrie, but the letter said he the agent had sold the paperback rights for $100,000(?) (Wiki says he got $400,000).
He sank to the floor when he read the letter, and when his wife got home from her job as a waitress(?) and he told her she started crying.
Report Joel October 11, 2013 4:54 AM BST
I wrote a book in primary school, it was called Inspector Gadget and the Case of the Pink Money. It was quite a story.
Mills and Boon even approached me to publish it, but I declined.
Report AyersRock October 11, 2013 6:00 AM BST
However, like I said earlier, writing a book about your own life is a waste of time unless you are well known. Fiction is the best money spinner and if your book catches on, then you can hit the jackpot.


But some peoples real life stories are so unbelievable they're like fiction, fact is usually stranger than fiction and harder to make up to, if you know what I mean.
Report Jack Hacksaw October 11, 2013 7:35 AM BST
My mate had a sort of autobiography (basically a string of anecdotes) published by Spire Publishing.  Just google it.  I think he had a few hundred printed and has managed to sell them.  His book is teetering around number 8 million on the Amazon bestsellers list.
Report Jack Hacksaw October 11, 2013 7:40 AM BST
It seems remarkably cheap to get  your own book printed - if I have read it correctly.
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 7:52 AM BST
I once reached the final shortlist for young playright's award at Liverpool playhouse, but being honest, the winner was fantastic compared to my effort and was even made into a tv play.
I've also written an unpublished novella.
Re-reading it now, it's little wonder it wasn't published; one excerpt reads: 'Did you see those two comedians on telly last night? What were they called now...they were really bad, oh yeah, they were called ''**** and shyte.'''
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 7:57 AM BST
t y for making me laugh btw squeeze, very good.
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 8:04 AM BST
I think the writer(s) of birds of a feather must've had a relation working at the bbc, they must surely have passed round the script and thought ' well this is some of the worst non-comedic shyte I've ever read, but we have an obligation to our relation to consider.'
Report rob_dylan October 11, 2013 8:04 AM BST
SqueezeFirmly 10 Oct 13 22:47
I was writing a book about the different gasses in the Universe. As I was finishing the chapter on Helium the doorbell rang. (I GUESSED THE PUNCHLINE HERE)I put the book down to go and answer the door, and wWhen I came back I saw it floating away over the garden fence.


That must be the most laboured joke ever on here, have you been given access to SDKs joke book?
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 8:05 AM BST
I like it, rob!
Report raspberrybottom October 11, 2013 8:07 AM BST
I got about 17,000 words into a novel then got stuck.

That was years ago. Might try to pick it up again now.Happy
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 8:09 AM BST
was it about glue, raspberry?
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 8:10 AM BST
There you go, 'dear mr tarbuck....'
Report rob_dylan October 11, 2013 8:11 AM BST
Wouldlike to visit every test cricket ground in the world and write a book about it, to my knowledge no one has done this yet, would need about twenty grand a year off work.  reckon it would be a best seller.  Dont think I could write fiction, not enough imagination.  Would love to write a travel/cricket book.
Report Tony Broke October 11, 2013 8:15 AM BST
I also once wrote a short story for my English class when aged 13 or so. It was called 'the lonely house in the countryside,' still remember the spooky lettering technique for the title!
Report History Maker October 11, 2013 11:45 AM BST
A guy I know wrote a book that was successful, and could well be up many a betfairian's street. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages a sequel and a film out of it - he's already done a documentary.

In a way he got very lucky, and was in the right place at the right time, but he did also sort of make his own luck.

He quit his job, got accredited as a journalist and went to Afghanistan in search of adventure, and a story. Wasn't getting anywhere but happened to fall in with the Afghan cricket team somehow, and they went on to qualify for the T20 World Cup. Wrote a book about it. Given that they've just qualified for the One-Day World Cup too, and will play England and Australia, he could be quids in, Cool Runnings style.

It's called Out of the Ashes, by Tim Albone, if anyone's interested. Later editions have an introduction by Mike Atherton.
Report rogerthebutler October 11, 2013 12:31 PM BST
Yep.

Wrote a book of poetry that was published 15 years ago, contributed to a few punting books and am a contributor to a book about Oasis that's being published in a couple of weeks, Supersonic - Personal Situations with Oasis by Stuart Deabil and Ian Snowball
Report AyersRock October 11, 2013 12:35 PM BST
what did you say about Oasis roger, are you a fan? people seem to love them or loathe them
Report rogerthebutler October 11, 2013 12:38 PM BST
Probably their biggest fan in the early years. I lost count after seeing them 50 times in the UK and all over the world. Amazing times, amazing stories.

Lost interest when the music became sh1t (album 3), because it was always all about the music for me.
Report AyersRock October 11, 2013 12:58 PM BST
yep, first two were classics, be here now had no direction,
Report bungalow bill October 11, 2013 6:30 PM BST
I too have written several books – that is not to say they are any good of course, and I have also read Steven King’s “On Writing” which I found quite inspirational. I don’t like his books at all, but I admire the man greatly.

I started about ten years ago and did what everyone else does, sent loads of copies and stuff around publishers and agents, and of course like so many others I have enough rejection letters to paper a couple of large rooms.

Someone told me that the big publishers reject something like 2,000 manuscripts per month, and would sign up on average 2 new unknown writers per year, so the odds of being accepted are infinitesimal.

I finished a book about 5 years ago about a philandering man who had never been in love – sound familiar, chaps? – and tried the usual avenues without success, so I just threw it under the bed.

Last year I dug it out and edited it down from 550 pages to 450 and showed it to 3 or 4 people (all women btw) and they all said it was good and I should publish it – they were probably just being kind to me – so as it is now so easy to publish and so inexpensive – just publish on Kindle almost for free – and see where it takes you, I did release it.

It’s called “The Life and Loves of Gringo Greene” if you are interested, and while I am on a shameless self-publicity tack, I have also written a series of detective novels featuring my detective, Inspector Walter Darriteau, who operates in and around Chester.

“The Murder Diaries – Seven Times Over” is out now, while “The Sound of Sirens” will be released at the end of this month and features as part of the plot, a contract out to murder the England centre-forward!!

So if you feel there is a book inside you, just get on and write it. You’ll enjoy it, never regret it, and get a real kick out of finishing it. I certainly do, but don’t expect to earn a fortune, because you won’t.

And one last thought on editing and spell checking – all very important of course, but you are in good company if the odd typo/mistake gets through. Last month I read a Harper Collins book that was riddled with spelling mistakes including five on one page, and don’t mention my horrendous DOE instead of DOUGH in Gringo Greene – DOH!
Report History Maker October 11, 2013 7:06 PM BST
There is a truism that is supposed by many to be false, but actually probably isn't, and that is that anyone who can string a sentence together probably has a couple of books in them.

If you ain't famous then, unless your experiences are truly remarkable, fictionalizing is better than memoir.
Report Emden October 11, 2013 7:39 PM BST
Best advice that I can give anybody thinking about writing a book is - "DO IT". Have faith in yourself and go for it. However, like I said earlier, writing a book about your own life is a waste of time unless you are well known. Fiction is the best money spinner and if your book catches on, then you can hit the jackpot. Avoid "Vanity" publishers though, as you will be well out of pocket. Get an agent or self publish on Amazon Kindle. Look at the woman who wrote that Shades Of Grey or whatever you call it, multi millionaire now. Don`t tell friends, they`ll just laugh at you and destroy your confidence. Just do it and tell them when it is a success.

Some good tips there
Report Ramruma October 11, 2013 11:03 PM BST
There are many videos of writng tips and lessons on youtube.
Report Ramruma October 11, 2013 11:03 PM BST
Not many on proofreading though.
Report s.kenbo October 11, 2013 11:44 PM BST
I've just downloaded your book from Amazon bungalow bill. I'm on holiday next week and I was after a new book to try, so this can be my poolside read.
Report bodil October 12, 2013 12:55 AM BST
When all else fails I'll write my biography.  Before then I'll sell my words/life to the highest bidder.  I can make you into what you dream of.
Report HRH The Lager Khan October 12, 2013 1:08 AM BST
Yeah, but no, but words, sentences, erm ... formulating coherent, erm .. coherent ... No, it's gone Plain
Report bodil October 12, 2013 1:11 AM BST
I can recover all the filth you forgot, HRH.  And then some.
Report HRH The Lager Khan October 12, 2013 1:20 AM BST
I'm not sure even Dyno Rod could unblock that drain Surprised
Report Hank Hill October 12, 2013 1:26 AM BST
I have a dystopian novel I would like to write. I don't think I could possibly print it under my real name though.
Report bodil October 12, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Nothing you've done could trump my ... oh wait, it certainly could.

What the hell - give me a chance and the 1% who get most of our money will get even more.
Report HRH The Lager Khan October 12, 2013 1:38 AM BST
I reckon you should crack on. annie would buy a gazillion copies of anything you wrote and stalk you. It would all play out like an updated Chit Chat version of Misery, but with a lot more Vodka.
Report bodil October 12, 2013 1:46 AM BST
Annie is a bulwark that stands against your average **** on here.

Give me any question and I'll pretend to be interested.
Report takethestand October 12, 2013 7:22 AM BST
A friend of mine has several novels.  His last won a national prize for young adult fiction.  IT was criticized  from all sides for being pornographic and racist.   Sales went through the roof after the media went after him and cos he was self publishing he made a fortune.  ****
Report curious-cat October 12, 2013 7:55 AM BST
a friend of mine had a book published entitled Democracy in the USA.
Report curious-cat October 12, 2013 7:56 AM BST
TITLE 'Democracy'
Report bungalow bill October 12, 2013 10:14 AM BST
Thank you Kenbo.

Much appreciated.

Hope you get a laugh out of it, if nothing else!
Report s.kenbo October 12, 2013 1:23 PM BST
I'm looking forward to reading it.
Report Pokermonster October 12, 2013 4:08 PM BST
I have written a book entitled Whitey's World of Pool.  It's a coaching manual about pool and billiards, interspersed with a few anecdotes of my playing days and the many colourful characters within the game.

I posted up a chapter on here a few months ago to garner some constructive criticism from the Chit Chat faithful.  Perhaps you guys could do the same, I'd certainly be interested to read an excerpt or two.
Report rob_dylan October 12, 2013 4:46 PM BST
Are you Jimmy White?
Report Tony Broke October 12, 2013 5:33 PM BST
my dyslexic friend once bought a book entitled, 'how to read.'But he couldn't read it.
Report s.kenbo October 12, 2013 5:47 PM BST
I know a dyslexic pimp who brought a warehouse.
Report Velasquez October 12, 2013 6:14 PM BST
I've written a novel about a middle-aged tennis groupie called Walker Grange. He is trapped in a loveless marriage to a disenchanted mini-cab driver called Griselda. Walker reaches a divorce settlement with Griselda and is down to his last £400,000 when he wins 62.8 million euros on the lawtrey. Gradually, Walker Grange becomes aware of his own mortality and the sordid meaninglessness of his existence...then, during a bout of depression, he spies a well known celebrity (what other kind is there?)at Eastbourne and resolves to follow her around the world with a SPECIFIC PURPOSE in mind.

Grange's SPECIFIC PURPOSE is to whack the celebrity - really hard, like - on the bottom, with a tennis racket, then he tries to make his escape, evading justice. His target is to do this FORTY TIMES. He uses his wealth, guile and considerable influence to accomplish his goal; he hires a team of ninja-like whackers and he makes sure they use a different racket every time; a Yonex, a Donnay, a Wilson, a vintage wooden framed Slazenger, etc...

The tension builds MASSIVELY after the thirty ninth bumbash and Grange's fantasy threatens to become reality. The title of my book is "Love Forty : The Kardashian Project."
Report Pokermonster October 12, 2013 6:39 PM BST
Tony Broke wrote at 17:33

My dyslexic friend once bought a book entitled How to Read but he couldn't read it.


I once purchased a book entitled How to Hustle thinking it would be right up my street, but it just turned out to be a middle volume of some large encyclopaedia.

Report reculver October 12, 2013 6:41 PM BST
We should all get together and write a book about Not getting on in a bookies but being able to lose as much as you like on FOBTS and how the bookies hide behind a bookmakers licence to run an arcade
Report Tony Broke October 12, 2013 7:13 PM BST
How about a new case for Sherlock holmes? 'the strange case of the red suspend button.'
I'd be willing to ghost write a draft.
Report bodil October 14, 2013 12:26 AM BST
In truth, together we could probably win several Nobel Prizes for Literature - but drink and gambling (and sexual fumbling) will get in the way.  And who's to say they wouldn't be more fulfilling in the long run?  If only they had a Nobel Prize for gross under-achievement.  With added depravity.

Saturday's Telegraph - was Miss P in the photo showing all the Brixton solar energy investors?
Report Dobbo October 14, 2013 12:29 AM BST
I wrote a wonderful epic illustrated story in verse that can be viewed at www.yellowbackkelly.com
Report bodil October 14, 2013 12:32 AM BST
I need to drink a LOT more before I dare to view that.
Report Dobbo October 14, 2013 12:39 AM BST
It wont bite
Report bodil October 14, 2013 12:49 AM BST
Strangely - through the mists of time - I recall you posting something about this some years ago.  It was quite a big thing, and I seem to recall you were surprised/disappointed it didn't take.  You do know all this is random and arbitrary and in no way reflects actual merit?   It'll be a BIG hit after you're dead, of course.  Which must be a comfort.
Report Dobbo October 14, 2013 12:54 AM BST
I was never hopeful enough to be disappointed. In my humble opinion its not very good but its not bad either ,given the crap that is published it would please me if it had a place in print.
Report bodil October 14, 2013 1:05 AM BST
Jesus - get a popular children's book out and you're made for life.  What am I waiting for?  I can turn anything out to satisfy any constituency.  So why don't I?  I'll read it soon Dobbo.  Too grumpy now.
Report Dobbo October 14, 2013 1:10 AM BST
Book publishing has changed beyond recognition in the last ten years. You need to be famous first..just look at the comedians,actors and tv personalities that have published books.Poor old Gatsby would not see the light of day today.
Report bodil October 14, 2013 1:25 AM BST
How true.

My best seller would be a thinly disguised auto-biography - so many sordid but hysterically funny episodes.  While mum is an avid reader it's not going to happen.  I've offered episodes to writers on here (say £100 per catastrophe) but they've been  parochial.  Children's books is where the money is.  Bizarrely I just got 2 children's books from Amazon - Tove Jansson - loved them when I was young.  I'm assured they are for older and wiser people.
Report wallis October 14, 2013 3:48 PM BST
BungalowBill - if you publish on Kindle how much do you get paid ? Do you put the book up at a price per download and receive a percentage ? (I have no idea how Kindle works)
Report bungalow bill October 14, 2013 5:38 PM BST
Hi Wallis,

you can set the price at whatever level you like - and you keep about 75% - obviously a cheaper price will sell more copies. Search on Kindle publishing and you will find loads of info.
Report Emden October 14, 2013 5:51 PM BST
BungalowBill - if you publish on Kindle how much do you get paid ? Do you put the book up at a price per download and receive a percentage ? (I have no idea how Kindle works)


http://www.techradar.com/news/portable-devices/kindle-self-publishing-free-but-at-what-cost-1061826#null

Amazon - 34p profit paid out on a 99p book (2012)
Report wallis October 14, 2013 9:45 PM BST
Good luck Bill , thanks.
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