Do you have any hobbies, pass times ?

Poker - semi decent at the game and can make it pay.
Astronomy - loved it from no age.
Growing veg - not growing much this year, I love growing and picking, hate the weeding and digging though.
Brewing beer - only a small interest, not into brewing it from grains etc. just the kits you buy.
Drinking beer - self explanatory.
Programming - trying to learn to program for Android devices but hopeless at it. I've a few idea's I'd like to implement.
Glentoran FC - more of a punishment but we won the Irish Cup this year and have a place in Europa League.

Pretty well kept busy with all that.

AP : The Truth :

The gym, pretty much every day, and just been.  Gym owns a Poodle Pampering Shop...

Getting out on my road bike in fine weather.  Heading off in a short while to demolish 18 miles.  So it's you who's making all the pot-holes

Watching Les do the garden, although I like to do the grass when I can.  Do you pay this Lesbian...?

Cooking.........totally love having people here as an excuse to do a decent meal.  Eating people is just wrong...!

Painting & drawing...........plenty of my stuff on the walls here.   Excrement does not count...!

Shooting............mainly FT and 10m target pistol these days.     Financial Times is not a suitable target...!

Trying to hit a little white ball with dimples on it, a long way, with a long stick thingy.   It's not that long...!

Driving through our beautiful countryside with the top down (the car's, not mine).   If the cars not yours...give it back you scally...!

AP do you go to squires

Ovalman : can't fault that...

AP : The Truth :

Very droll TL................

AP do you go to squires

Jayco, I read yours and for some reason it didn't mean anything!

Had you said "Squires" it may have clicked!

You obviously mean "Squires" at Newthorpe!

I'm not a biker Jayco, I'm a recreational cyclist!

I used to go there with the family on sunny evenings, for some decent nosh, and copious amounts of Stella,
when I lived closer (Burton Salmon and Monk Fryston).

It was then "The New Inn" and Squires was in Sherburn in Elmet.

Small world though hey?

Yes I have lots of hobbies. I gamble on horse racing mainly, am not a bad chef at my brothers pub and support Crystal Palace, if they beat Watford tomorrow and get promoted then I'll go to a good few games again. We were the 'team of the 80's' don't ya know.I'm quite an expert at reading people as well. I should have been a detective really, I'd be Lieutenant Columbo I would say.

"I worry. I mean, little things bother me. I'm a worrier. I mean, little insignificant
details - I lose my appetite. I can't eat. My wife, she says to me, "you know, you can really be a pain."

AP my mistake,saw you mention road bike and assumed wrongly.

farting
sniffing
bicycle seats
restraining orders

Sheep worrying
Wheel spinning Micra's

Building historic ships and vessels at 250% actual scale...I'm working on the raft of the Medusa at the moment...hope to have it finished by Autumn, 2020.

Funnily enough. model ship building is my hobby, along with gardening, fishing, and computing.

I really should just write my acceptance speech for saddo of the year now.

I'll tell you what's sad about it -- about five years ago, I bought a stunning wooden and canvas sailing ship from ebay for £8...all that effort for eight quid...

I love cooking a nice decent meal when i can .. usually after a couple of beers

I enjoy lots of artwork & buy/collect bits & pieces that interest me when i can , but don't do anything myself as i don't have time

I like to read a few books , i'm interested in philosophy , psychology & how the mind works along with a few autiobiography's

I plan to join the gym when i'm moved into my new place  , a cool Gym , Swim then a Sauna would sort my head out a bit

I'd like to do tons of other stuff , travel more etc , but making time is always a battle for me !

Antique Fairs. I like to browse about and spend a few quid on things I like. I dont collect anything specific apart from retirement gifts but I will buy anything if I like it enough and hopefully move it on at a profit when I feel like it.
I used to love the theatre when I lived in London  but out in the sticks there isn't a lot of choice. I enjoy thinking about going to the gym.

Velasquez,

Why sell it for that much? If you have put all that effort into it, why not keep it?

Strangling animals, golf and masturbating.

Stalking tommy toes on tinternet.....

Chess
Gardening
Bringing up a family
chasing and getting with some success young succesful business women

That must be very exhausting for you EGG.

Who's EGG

egg.......

y

....bread

Betting, Cooking, allotment recently and playing sport... Squash, tennis, footy occasionally, gym occasionally and cricket.

I like dossing, I have become very good at it

Got any tips on where to start B-B?

electric reclining chair is a good start

sleeping
golf--watch/play/bet
restaurants/cafes
holidays --I can't go longer than a week anywhere/newyork/Vegas/Blackpool fav
computor---amazed what women tell you on social sites

Playing guitar
Getting nagged by Mrs SF

Computor---amazed what women tell you on social sites
Getting nagged by Mrs SF

I move snails and worms out of harms way when I encounter them on country pathways.
Since Jan 13 I have moved 4 snails. I did move a worm in December 12 though.
Keeps me busy.

I'm retired but like to keep my hand in by giving treatment to folk that need it and I get a few referrals a year

I use various bodywork protocols to correct postural anomaly and pain - normally complicated pain patterns resulting from major impacts

have 3 cases at the moment, a guy who fell off a scaffold, another who had a motorbike smash and a woman who was assaulted in the street

fascinating stuff

fascinating -  what profession  did you retire from judorick?

Your a good guy Rick , i could do with some of that treatment myself

What is it you deal in acupuncture ?

what would you recommend for serious head pains ?

I'm kind of like an Osteopath except it is what's known as 'low velocity' adjustment. So, instead of cracking joints I use various neurological tricks to get the soft tissue to melt so I can gently move joints. It is light touch work. Some of the stuff is called Myo-Skeletal Alignment, Structural Integration, Myo-fascial Release,Active Release and a few other things.

Funny enough chronic head pain was one of my speciality areas when I was in private practice. Hard to say what might the problem as there are many. See an osteopath to start because he will eliminate the obvious

Best of luck in your retirement.

Thanks Rick
It's all very interesting but i don't quite know where to start , my dad was big on Reiki but i'd prefer a more direct type of treatment if i paid for it
The initial pain was caused by injury but gets worse with stress & worry i think , poker all day long etc , my heads not in a good way

I quite fancy the bone cracking tbh

yes go to an osteopath, you can find one easily, they will generally relieve plenty in a couple of sessions

personally not an advocate of chiropractic

i see an osteopath regularly myself to keep me mobile, lots of sport and combat related injuries to manage

McMoonbeam - Or go and see a GP first. Sure a retired pro like rick would agree.
Take care of your health.

no, I would say see the osteopath first

he will advise whether you need to see the GP after his assessment - he is ethically and professionally required to do so. Osteopaths are on the same level as a doctor, they can give you a legal diagnosis and most GPs are only going to give medication in the first instance.

I've spoken to a good doctor many times about it parachute , but they're generally hopeless as they just don't have time for you

He ends up saying the same .. 'Take care of your good self' .. along with more tablets !


Thanks Rick , i think i'll look into a few sessions with an Osteopath

no sweat, if you have any questions about the treatment or anything shoot me a line

Cheers i may do in future if you don't mind

Better get some sleep in as i'm moving tomorrow & thursday

Night guys , tc !

I don't understand why you give that kind of advice, I realize that people sometimes discuss bolloccs on this forum.
But if somebody has a serious medical problem you advise them to go to a doctor and quick.

no, the GP is not going to recognise a serious problem from a description of symptoms in a 10 minute appointment and the best they will do is write a prescription

An Osteopath on the otherhand will do a full orthopaedic assessment, check posture, joint mobility and provide correction as necessary. If there is need for X-ray or MRI they can write to the GP with their findings and request such action be taken. The osteopath will know much more about the type of pain described by moonbeam and will know what action to take. Appointment usually an hour

you are under the misapprehension that the GP has any interest in getting to the root cause of the pain. Mostly they don't diagnose anything, their function in the NHS is to fend off time wasters and refer the seriously ill to other providers, that's why they only have 10 minutes

My sister is an osteopath

great profession!

J-rick
I am not under any misapprehensions. About your ex profession. I wish you well.
I do rely on medically qualified doctors to diagnose serious illnesses. Or hope they wont.

morning Joel

osteopaths ARE medically quialified, the are primary care providers just like GPs and they have the same ability to diagnose

and moonbeam has already said that he has discussed the head pain with his GP and got nothing more than a prescription so don't preach to me about GPs

I used to get referrals from GPs and the things they missed and misdiagnosed was truly frightening, no joke

a. you say you are retired from whatever ""sort of (your words) profession you allegedly practiced. good for you.
B. If someone has a prolongued headache you send them to a doctor.

c. there is no c

i consider myself a bit of a fart smeller... smart feller... but cmon. if you have medical issues, I wouldn't presume to know better than someone who spends 10 years of their life learning a vocation.

evening farty

All good stuff, and some top advice in amongst, but we have kind of drifted off topic a little.......

parachute

I could tell you some horrendous stories of complacency, missed diagnosis and utter failure to do their job by GPs

For instance, when they refer a patient, they send a form ahead requesting treatment with a box that says 'reason for treatment'

I had patient sent by their GP and the reason for treatment was given as 'lumbago'. When the guy arrived I went through the medical history and then examined him. He had been in constant pain for 3 years and had been visiting his doctor every two to three weeks and had been tried on a variety of analgesic medication, none of which had given any relief. Eventually, in exasperation, the GP referred him for therapy. The patient let me know that in the three years he had been complaining of pain in his lower back the GP had never once physically examined him. He also had some other symptoms like ever worsening constipation and pain in his legs which alerted me to several possibilities

As soon as I began my physical examination, I was immediately aware that something was not right, something more than a structural issue. You get a feel for it when you have touched thousands of bodies and I was highly suspicious - thought it might be kidney disease or something like that.

Cut  long story short,I wrote to the GP with my suspicions and suggested an urgent MRI, blood tests and x-ray. We got the results a few weeks later - turned out the guy had Non-Hodgkins Lymphona and had a tumour the size of a large grapefruit in his pelvic basin that had to have been growing for at least 5 years.

The GP had totally failed his patient and without the referral he might have gone on and on living with cancer until he dropped dead.

So, please, don't post patronising rubbish about GPs. I worked with them for many years and I know exactly how they work

I don't have a lot of confidence in the average GP. I've known many cases of missed and mis-diagnosis. Is this due to incompetence or negligence? I don't know.

I must say that my experience of GP's is very similar to Judorick's.  It's got to the point now that I just simply don't go as the answer is always the same.  I'm a keen runner and when training heavily I run 80-100 miles a week.  Whenever I've gone to a GP about pain or injury the response is almost identical:  A half arsed examination followed by 'Take 2 ibuprofen 3 times a day and rest'.  Wow, thanks doc.  I accept that my pursuit of my goals being halted by injury is hardly as important as someone with serious health concerns but still. I once had chronic hamstring pain for over 8 months and the doc was useless.  My coach advised me to go to an Osteopath he knew who did a full examination and found that I had a slight scoliosis and a tilted pelvis which was causing massive imbalances and meant my hamstrings weren't firing correctly causing pain and greatly restricting movement.  In two sessions he'd cure the problem completely which wasn't even a running injury and caused pain just from walking.

Ok, staying off the original topic and going with the flow!

I lost the love of my life in 2001.

In 1991 she went to the doctor because she had been experiencing abdominal discomfort, and weight gain, for perhaps a year or so before.

She was diagnosed as having "fibroids" by just the one (young at the time)GP.

Two years later she was admitted for a Hysterectomy.

Following the operation I was called in to see the surgeon and a member of the nursing staff.

I was told that they removed two tumours the size of grapefruits, and that she had in fact been suffering for all that previous time,
with "Ovarian Cancer"!

You will understand I'm sure, as to the bitterness that I felt, in the realisation that had she been dealt with earlier,
she might still be here!

I wanted to take a legal action but Karen didn't want the agro!

All of these many years later I am still screwed up by it, and that pain will haunt me forever!

Very sorry to read your story AP.

It only confirms my belief that one needs to be assertive when dealing with GPs. Not always easy if you're unwell

"I could tell you some horrendous stories of complacency, missed diagnosis and utter failure to do their job by GPs"

My doctor missed my tumour from 1993, when I first went to see her, until 1997 when she finally referred me to a specialist. I very nearly died thanks to her incompetence.

I partly blame myself. I should have insisted on a second opinion.

How many times did you visit your GP in that period, MD?

"I wanted to take a legal action but Karen didn't want the agro!"

I can understand her decision.

I could have taken legal action against my doctor but it would have added to the stress of my illness. If my life were to be cut short I wanted to enjoy what time I had left, not spend it on a distressing court battle.

That's a terribly sad story, Aunty.

I visited her only about 5 or 6 times. As I said, it was partly my fault I should have kicked up a fuss. I should have asked to see another doctor but I didn't want to offend her.

I'm realising now how completely stupid I was.

My tumour (brain) was missed for 9 months. In that time I went to my practice 8 times (never got to see the same GP twice).

First GP diagnosed me with vertigo -  didn't even examine me. Just decided that's what it was as I was feling dizzy. Prescribed tablets which I had side effets to, dry skin, rash etc.

Went back, second GP was 'horrified' I'd been prescribed those and performed an 'epsley' manoeuvre to balance the fluid in my ears.

Went back two weeks later as felt worse. 3rd GP said 'epsley' manoeuvre was a waste of time. Prescribed some different tablets.

Went back a few times over the next few months as my symptoms were getting worse to the point where I was staggering at work and eventually fell over in the works canteen.

Finally, asked to go private and eventually had an MRI scan (cost me £1,000).
Scan revealed a 6 cm tumour starting in my ear canal with invasion into my brain stem.
Had it surgically removed a year ago (12 hour op)and now reasonably ok but permanently deaf and blind on right side and have nerve damage (resemble a stroke victim). If diagnosed earlier there's a good chance and wouldn't have needed surgery but tumour could have been shrunk with radiotherapy.

So, to summarise, drs are **** and more importantly, imo, don't care.

Glad to get that off my chest!

My Dad saw so many doctors when he started to feel unwell, they had no clue what was wrong with him and it took 6 months before he was finally diagnosed with mesothelioma. By that stage he was dying a truly horrific death that you would not wish on anyone.

About 1959, one of my cousins was about 6 when her local quack told her mum she had a cold and to have s dsy off school.  She was soon in an oxygen tent with double pneumonia. My uncle showed his displeasure by punching the doctor.


And this was big local news a couple of years ago.

German, my arse.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/feb/04/doctor-daniel-ubani-unlawfully-killed-patient