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Emden
08 Apr 13 21:35
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happening all over the country apparently. Big one in Glasgow.

Looking at the photos they all have a common thyme.

Beardies, left wing crustries, activists, anarchists, union leaders, the great unwashed, and students of all ages doing useless degrees.

Doubt if many of them have ever done a decent days work in their lives.
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Report collywobble April 8, 2013 10:27 PM BST
Just to report, I live in ex mining town. Fireworks lighting up the sky.A lovely sight on a great day.
Report paddletoe April 8, 2013 10:30 PM BST
I did not realise until today she was a supporter of apartheid in South Africa and called Nelson Mandella a terrorist.
Report northanlite April 8, 2013 10:31 PM BST
as a scotsman that grew up during the entire era of maggie & loathed her & her policies i am still sickened by these so called "celebrations"
just no need at this particular time.
she was out of power years ago so this makes no sense
Report Emden April 8, 2013 10:31 PM BST
I suppose the BBC will be having their own (tax funded) party later.
Report Alias April 8, 2013 10:32 PM BST
I should think so too.
Report Burton-Brewers April 8, 2013 10:35 PM BST
I'm out in the sticks and I've heard fireworks tonight, could be a coincidence I suppose
Report Emden April 8, 2013 10:46 PM BST
Livingstone, Galloway, Frankie Boyle are all REJOICING the death of Thatch!

Just about sums up the level of the people who hated Thatcher. Is that the best the TV people can do? Is there no one of any significance they can interview other than these odious characters?




Meanwhile the world leaders inc Obama send their condolences. Telling us she was a 'great' lady. Now who do I believe? Red Ken, Georgie Boy etc - or the worlds leaders? Thats' a toughie if you are brain dead
Report Eeternaloptimist April 8, 2013 10:49 PM BST
northanlite

You have been drowned out by the nutters but a lone voice speaking against this vile behaviour is still welcome. I wonder if some of these people have any understanding of what they are saying and doing? Comparing her to people like Hitler just leaves me speechless.

Some people opposed her policies which is natural in a democracy but to show this level of animosity anywhere let alone on one of the most rampant examples of capitalism you will find is just bizarre.
Report TiptheOdds April 8, 2013 10:52 PM BST
I seem to remember some of the rejoicing posts on here when Chavez died recently, and he did nothing against anyone in Britain.

get over it!
Report Emden April 8, 2013 10:55 PM BST
Kinnock sticking the boot in now.

You remember Kinnock? The guy who went to Brussels on the Euro gravy train, employed his family, made millions. You know, that lad from the valleys
Report viva el presidente! April 8, 2013 10:57 PM BST
happy when chavez died
happy when pinochet died
happy when saddam died
happy when thatcher died

no intention of "showing any respect" for any of them, because I don't feel any and think the world would have been a better place without any of them having existed.
Report 718 April 8, 2013 10:58 PM BST
& the country is to blame for Thatcher getting a third term in office, when he was the alternative?

Give me strength.
Report 718 April 8, 2013 10:59 PM BST
They're mighty big judgements you're making there Viva
Report viva el presidente! April 8, 2013 11:03 PM BST
yep, no problem with that.

she basically stood for the class war, did stuff that destroyed the lives of people I cared about, I'm happy she's dead, and I'm not going to be browbeaten into pretending anything else in the name of spurious morality.

I just wish it had been sooner, that's all.
Report northanlite April 8, 2013 11:05 PM BST
eternaloptinist
she was very very devise and so while her support of pinochet, south africa etc was disgusting to me she was also a human being and a mother.
i rejoiced when she was out of office but she has not been involved in front line politics for years so i can't for the life of me understand anyone getting any pleasure from her death.
very distasteful imo.
Report Emden April 8, 2013 11:07 PM BST
happy when chavez died
happy when pinochet died
happy when saddam died
happy when thatcher died

Lumping Thatcher in with those?

I can't even lower myself to this level of debate.

Uni student by any chance??
Report viva el presidente! April 8, 2013 11:08 PM BST
yeah, god forbid someone should lump thatcher in with pinochet...
Report Alias April 8, 2013 11:14 PM BST
She called Pinochet (fascist murderer) a "friend".
Report Emden April 8, 2013 11:19 PM BST
can't be asked anymore.

Other fish to fry
Report Eeternaloptimist April 9, 2013 12:01 AM BST
northanlite

Some of the worst vitriol is coming from people who have no recollections of Thatcher as PM. Our 15 year old niece has been so brain washed at school or by her step dad that she has pronounced to the world on twitter that this is the happiest day of her life. I just don't understand it at all.
Report viva el presidente! April 9, 2013 12:03 AM BST
well, I lived through all of it and have hated the cow for 35 years.
Report Alias April 9, 2013 8:35 AM BST
Me too viva. btw, EO, I'm a LOT older than 15.
Report Harry R Scrack April 9, 2013 10:30 AM BST
I left school at 16 straight into full time work.
29 years later I still work for the same people.
Was never a student, never been unemployed. Never been on a protest march, I own my own house, never rented one. I'm married with 2 kids, and am from the Tory loving Essex
I've never celebrated the death of someone before, and I can't really think of anyone else's that I would. But, by God, I was happy yesterday when I heard the news.
She was an old lady - so what, Jimmy Saville was an old man. Dont see that fact getting in the way of his 'legacy'
She was a mother - so is Mairead Philpott, I didn't notice many posts using that defence of her against the vitriol directed at her.
I will celebrate her death. Every time I pay a utility bill to a foreign owned company, every time I pass my old schools playing fields with houses on them, every time British manufacturing is mentioned, I will think of her and the poisonous legacy she left for the average man and woman in this country.
Report fife April 9, 2013 11:10 AM BST
Good post Harry
Report TheBetterBettor April 9, 2013 12:58 PM BST
I think everyone should have street parties when everyone dies.
Report Alias April 9, 2013 1:00 PM BST
Harry R Scrack
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I left school at 16 straight into full time work.
29 years later I still work for the same people.
Was never a student, never been unemployed. Never been on a protest march, I own my own house, never rented one. I'm married with 2 kids, and am from the Tory loving Essex
I've never celebrated the death of someone before, and I can't really think of anyone else's that I would. But, by God, I was happy yesterday when I heard the news.
She was an old lady - so what, Jimmy Saville was an old man. Dont see that fact getting in the way of his 'legacy'
She was a mother - so is Mairead Philpott, I didn't notice many posts using that defence of her against the vitriol directed at her.
I will celebrate her death. Every time I pay a utility bill to a foreign owned company, every time I pass my old schools playing fields with houses on them, every time British manufacturing is mentioned, I will think of her and the poisonous legacy she left for the average man and woman in this country.
............................................................................

THE most telling post on this thread. Well said.
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:10 PM BST
ffs
Report viva el presidente! April 9, 2013 1:11 PM BST
harry nails it.
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:17 PM BST
does he ****, he's got a good life and he's fkin moaning. Doesn't know he's born.
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:18 PM BST
wants to take a good luck at the World and count his blessings.
Report logroller April 9, 2013 1:22 PM BST
fck me, i had no idea she was hated so strongly................one question beckons, why the fck did she get voted in 3 times

aussie's in general look at her through rose coloured glasses
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:24 PM BST
that question's been asked many times in the last few days. Not seen an answer yet.
Report moisok April 9, 2013 1:34 PM BST
I suppose the aussies never saw or experienced the shutting down of british industry
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:42 PM BST
Didn't Wilson close more mines that Mrs Thatcher?
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 9, 2013 1:44 PM BST
British manufacturing was fooked because it was uncompetitive, mainly because of globalisation.  Unskilled manufacturing is a dead duck in the Western World.  The country had to change and had to be tough.  Britain has to compete in a global economy now which means it's hands are tied with regard to certain policies.  The goalposts have changed.  It's not even a political football as all parties know this is the case.
Report moisok April 9, 2013 1:45 PM BST
he probably did but then he was no socialist either - that lot just tinker with capitalism. In fact are rather good way of controlling people - they believe that Labour are actually improving their lot - so takes a bit of a sting out of the criticism and radical ideas or actions.  All rather clever - and look how Labour turned out under Kinnock, blair et al ha ha!!!
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:47 PM BST
yeh, they let all the fkin foreigners in, that deserves far more vilification than Maggie's getting.
Report moisok April 9, 2013 1:49 PM BST
funny how we sit on 400 years of coal but are gasping for gas and it is a 'CRISIS'  who controls all this energy, natural resources.  The distributors, many foreign, are reaping the profit.  Look a bit further than the edge of your Wikepedia.
Looks like manufacturing in some sectors is Ok but so much is foreign owned.   
Let's be honest - capital isn't interested in Britain PLC  - only in profit - if they don't get what they want they will move it east as I always say.   Behave or we go ha ha!!!!
Report Coachbuster April 9, 2013 1:53 PM BST
Kenny Laugh
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 1:57 PM BST
Wink
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 9, 2013 1:59 PM BST
When trains were powered by coal and steam and everyone had a coal fireplace I guess there was a big market for coal.  Not much sense in selling it overseas for 30% of the cost of digging it out.  Times change, businesses reach the end of their natural life and the mines had to close.
Report Harry R Scrack April 9, 2013 2:10 PM BST
I wasn't moaning about my lot. I was pointing out that I don't fit into the categories stated by the OP.

"happening all over the country apparently. Big one in Glasgow.
Looking at the photos they all have a common thyme.
Beardies, left wing crustries, activists, anarchists, union leaders, the great unwashed, and students of all ages doing useless degrees.
Doubt if many of them have ever done a decent days work in their lives."

I then went on to state my personal reasons for my opinion.
I see the state of the country, and what affects me and every person like me in the UK and know where the fault lies for many of the problems in the country in this day and age. As I see, it's largely down to Thatcher, her Government and the selfish, spiteful, 'me me me' attitude she created.
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 2:13 PM BST
FURR ENOUGH
Report Coachbuster April 9, 2013 2:34 PM BST
lets be honest , Thatcher or no Thatcher things would have changed anyway  -the world was changing
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 9, 2013 2:37 PM BST
You can liken the economy to Betfair and the Premium Charge.  As the exchange market is a natural monopoly, they can charge the biggest earners a much greater share of their profits.  They can't charge poker winners a greater share of the profits because they'll just up sticks and bet elsewhere and should the exchange market have competition, the people that make the markets and provide liquidity (business) would just up sticks too.

That's what happening more and more with the economy.  It's more global, there's more competition, less Communist states, and you can't tax high like you once could.
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 2:48 PM BST
very true coachbuster

however since she is quite wrongly in my opinion being given a ceremonial funeral

street parties celebrating her death must also now be considered right as well

she was a prime minister like many others...so should be treated the same, no better no worse
Report Coachbuster April 9, 2013 2:52 PM BST
cos she's a woman innit   Grin
Report CLYDEBANK29 April 9, 2013 2:54 PM BST
two wrongs don't make a right.
Report Burton-Brewers April 9, 2013 2:55 PM BST
Not much sense in selling it overseas for 30% of the cost of digging it out.

no need to have sold it overseas, we could have used every piece that was mined. Did you know that Germany are shutting down all their nuclear power stations by 2012? They are beginning a massive expansion of coal fired plants because they are being held to ransom over electricity imports, and don't say it is dirty because their is carbon cleansing of coal now which was invented by us.
Report Alias April 9, 2013 2:55 PM BST
happening all over the country apparently.


Ever wished you belonged to a majority?
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 2:58 PM BST
two wrongs don't make a right.
true clydebank

but makes some of us anti thatcherites feel betterLaugh
Report sickoflayinwinners April 9, 2013 3:14 PM BST
persnally i think the basis of poll tax was a good idea, sadly it was badly implemented.the idea that each individual user of services paying something each towards the cost rather than just the house owner is a very fair way of doing things. th fact is some people want everything for nothing and expect/demand others to pay for it on their behalf.like most polliticians id say thatcher made good and bad decisions.if you wanted the countery held to ransom by the union then thatcher wouldnt be your cup of tea.i  think unions went from being a great thing  to being a total drain on the country.funny thing is whilst the miners were out stiking in the freezing cold and their familys suffering financial restraintstheir good old leaders scargill and co were not suffering in the same way.the truth is the shop stewards needed strikes to justify coppin g their lot, if everything was going well for the woekers theyd be no need for those parasites.clowns dancing in the streets at thenews of thatchers death just show how rude and pig ignorant they are.they are entitled to their viewson anyone/anything but its all done for show.irrelevant of what anyone thinks of thatcher she has a family and they dont deserve to see such sick behaviour.i think the girl o the tv said  something pretty fair," people say half the public loved thatcher nd half despised her, if that was the truth how did continue to win  many votes/elections"
Report Jack Hacksaw April 9, 2013 3:32 PM BST
I have just been checking out these 'street parties' on the Daily Mail page.

Very disappointing effort by all concerned.  Hardly a gingham table cloth or Victoria Sandwich to be seen.
Report alun2005 April 9, 2013 4:42 PM BST
Just been watching some scenes from this 'party' on Sky News.

Were ANY of the unwashed herberts swigging booze actually even ALIVE during Thatcher's administration, let alone have ANY political beliefs ?
Report sickoflayinwinners April 9, 2013 5:17 PM BST
if they werent doing that theyd be demonstrating somewhere else , ill tell you what they wouldnt be doing EARNING A FKN LIVING
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 9, 2013 5:40 PM BST
The vast majority "Celebrating" her death are 5cumbags who contribute f**k all to society. She took over a cesspit of a country which left its dead and rubbish to rot on the streets. The UK was not a perfect place in the 80s but it was progressive. Unions who had f**k all interest in the country were defeated. The UK is alot better place today because of her. She rewarded people who wanted to work and contribute towards society.

Not all her policies were correct and of course she made many mistakes but it says alot about people as Human beings that they "Celebrate" death imho
Report brendanuk1 April 9, 2013 5:48 PM BST
contribute f**k all to society.

there is no such thing as society
Report iamajambo April 9, 2013 5:50 PM BST
Ding DongLaughLaughLaugh
Report collywobble April 9, 2013 5:50 PM BST
I celebrated her death Joe. I'm 60 and have woked all my life, the last 30 in healthcare where, I hope (know), I've contributed to helping people recover from various problems.

Good riddance to her. I've seen first hand the effect her brand of politics had and continues to have on lots of people, and her total disregard for the welfare of thes people.
Report ReaseHeath April 9, 2013 5:56 PM BST
no street parties here when Saddam died, or Gaddafi.

Won't be any for Mairead Philpott, or Mick, or Huntley, or Brady, or Sutcliffe, or Rose West.

Admittedly mainly no-nothing kids who want to sing 'ding dong, the witch is dead' but still a despicable act beyond the realms o human decency.

People need to get over it and take responsibility for making something of their own lives instead of wallowing in self pity and blaming all their woes on somebody who has not been a force in British politics for a generation.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 9, 2013 5:58 PM BST
I've seen first hand the effect her brand of politics had and continues to have on lots of people, and her total disregard for the welfare of thes people.

Please do describe some of the effects these policies have had.....in detail please?

I'm 60 and have woked all my life, the last 30 in healthcare where, I hope (know), I've contributed to helping people recover from various problems.

I said vast majority.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 9, 2013 6:00 PM BST
People need to get over it and take responsibility for making something of their own lives instead of wallowing in self pity and blaming all their woes on somebody who has not been a force in British politics for a generation.

100% spot on. God forbid they look at themselves in the mirror and try to better themselves.
Report Coachbuster April 9, 2013 6:00 PM BST
i did find this amusing line

'I've heard that she was only in hell for 20 minutes and already closed 3 furnaces'.

Grin
Report ReaseHeath April 9, 2013 6:02 PM BST
whether you love her or hate her, she was the last of the true conviction politicians - since her, we've had populist Tony 'I'd sell my grandmother for your vote' Blair.

You knew what she stood for, just as you did with Kinnock - now we've got that insidious creep Ed Balls who will be totally against the Govt's reforms to welfare system until he gets an opportunity to reverse the coalition's policies at which point he will bottle it and tell us there still is n't any money.
Report brendanuk1 April 9, 2013 6:11 PM BST
Tony Blair thinks you lot should show some respect Laugh
Report iamajambo April 9, 2013 6:46 PM BST
Tony Blair-the greatest con trick that the Tories have ever foisted upon us.Cry
Report STEPTOES YARD April 9, 2013 7:16 PM BST
utter retards having these street parties. Most of them look about 18-25!!!!

She had good innings and died of natural causes at 87

She had last laugh not these utter morons
Report posy April 9, 2013 7:41 PM BST
There are times i wish we had a strong government like china.....a dose of tiananmen square would sort out the low life.....amazing that all the scum women are pig ugly
Report Injera April 9, 2013 7:54 PM BST
C4 News - usual bullshit from some community affected by redundant miners/steelworkers. The bitterness is simply staggering. 'Communities have never recovered'. Japan and Germany recovered quicker than some of these towns I wonder why...

One bloke didn't work for 7 years after the mines closed and MT gets the blame!

I was made redundant at the age of 21 and got a job inside 3 weeks. I got on my ****** bike and made things happen.

I'm no Thatcherite but geez the self pity from some people beggars belief.
Report the optimist April 9, 2013 8:04 PM BST
Yes Injera. Some people are even moaning about people wanting to have a party. What next?
Report Coachbuster April 9, 2013 8:41 PM BST
the Jarrow marchers will be spinning in thier graves
Report Tashunkewitko April 9, 2013 8:45 PM BST
posy
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There are times i wish we had a strong government like china.....a dose of tiananmen square would sort out the low life.....amazing that all the scum women are pig ugly
................................................................................................................

NAZI.
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 8:49 PM BST
I think they are communists
Report brendanuk1 April 9, 2013 8:50 PM BST
oh yes, the old "i loved thatcher so much, i wish we were communists" school of politics
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 9:05 PM BST
I see both Blair and Miliband are condemming street parties celebrating her death
as 'pretty poor taste'

It is a pity they do not condem the government for holding a full ceremonial funeral for her
her death has been turned into a political celebration of her policies

She should have had the normal quiet funeral appropriate to any prime minister
so those who mourne her can pay their respects
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 9:05 PM BST
I see both Blair and Miliband are condemming street parties celebrating her death
as 'pretty poor taste'

It is a pity they do not condem the government for holding a full ceremonial funeral for her
her death has been turned into a political celebration of her policies

She should have had the normal quiet funeral appropriate to any prime minister
so those who mourne her can pay their respects
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 9:05 PM BST
there is fault on both sides here
Report Blades April 9, 2013 9:07 PM BST
Thatcher ruined so many lives....the way she treated the miners, steelworkers, dockers....appalling. It was a matter of sack the lot of them and tell them to get on their bikes to get non-existent jobs. Appalling. She killed communities and caused endless suffering.
She also helped her son become an international arms dealer.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 9, 2013 10:07 PM BST
Thatcher ruined so many lives....the way she treated the miners, steelworkers, dockers....appalling.


Bunch of self pitying scroungers who she decided would no longer soak the state for money it could not afford.
She goes down as one of the UKs greatest citizens.
Report ebulGery April 9, 2013 10:12 PM BST
Sad
Report brendanuk1 April 9, 2013 10:14 PM BST
79p for ding dong on itunes. Small price to pay to watch the thatcher bum boys seething Grin
Report Harry R Scrack April 9, 2013 10:16 PM BST
Naming yourself after a corrupt (albeit fictional) politician and then supporting Thatcher so strongly. Says a lot.
Report brendanuk1 April 9, 2013 10:16 PM BST
.
isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk
190,801 people like this.

Laugh
Report therhino April 9, 2013 10:39 PM BST
Is there a more spiteful bunch anywhere on Earth than the English?
Report Kelly Brook April 9, 2013 11:31 PM BST
CLYDEBANK29
09 Apr 13 13:59

When trains were powered by coal and steam and everyone had a coal fireplace I guess there was a big market for coal.  Not much sense in selling it overseas for 30% of the cost of digging it out.  Times change, businesses reach the end of their natural life and the mines had to close.



In 2012 the UK imported 44.8 million tonnes of coal accounting for around 40 % of our electricity production . The coal mining industry continues to increase in value world-wide and the value of coal has massively increased. 

Uk coal is of the very highest quality and should production have continued the Green Agenda would have ensured it was by far the most profitable in Europe . Thanks to Thatcher's lunatic short termism we're now living hand to mouth on dirtier imported coal that is subject to ever increasing tariff and shipping costs when we are sitting on over 3 billion tonnes of high grade coal that needs less processing . Crazy
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 11:48 PM BST
I'm no expert but wasn't the mining industry losing a great deal of money when the decision was taken to close the pits and concentrate on gas production instead?
Report shearer2therestcue April 9, 2013 11:50 PM BST
ok ive saved this rant for the chit chat pub that ive never ever contributed to before -ok politically incorrect -i put my my forst mistake in the public domain . lol .Maggie had an agenda going back to the 1970s government of Heath when they were caught wiv their pants down -never again they said and thats what it all boiled down to-there is a thousand years of coal production sitting beneath our feet right now and yet we bleat on about how fcuked the country is despite the fact that Thatchers children continue to take the p1ss at every given opportunity
Report kenny mann April 9, 2013 11:52 PM BST
this isn't a politically correct forum. lol
Report shearer2therestcue April 10, 2013 12:18 AM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ajCnlawi8
goodnight -godbless
Report Tommy Toes April 10, 2013 2:33 AM BST
Excellent posts by Kelly Brook @23:31 and shearer2therestcue @23:50
Report worldcitizen April 10, 2013 7:24 AM BST
this isn't a politically correct forum

Laugh
Report Alias April 10, 2013 8:37 AM BST
Diamond_Joe_Quimby 09 Apr 13 17:40 Joined: 14 Oct 05 | Topic/replies: 11,615 | Blogger: Diamond_Joe_Quimby's blog
The vast majority "Celebrating" her death are 5cumbags who contribute f**k all to society. She took over a cesspit of a country which left its dead and rubbish to rot on the streets. The UK was not a perfect place in the 80s but it was progressive. Unions who had f**k all interest in the country were defeated. The UK is alot better place today because of her. She rewarded people who wanted to work and contribute towards society.
......................................................................................................................................

I left school at fifteen and I've never been unemployed. In all that time I've only ever claimed sickness benefit (or equivalent) for a couple of months. I always wanted to work, and did, and contributed to the society which Thatcher said did not exist. She did not reward me, or indeed many millions of people. I do remember her rewarding her son though, with £12,000,000, for signing an arms deal with the malodorous regime in Saudi Arabia. Which regime was the more corrupt is a different question.
If the UK is a better place today because of her, why are there so many people happy that she's dead? If she was any kind of good at all, why is she still causing such obvious division?
Report wit-ham April 10, 2013 9:00 AM BST
Alias people will always help their own or would you not help your own son/daughter get on?

people could not get jobs because they would not join a union

and plenty of people could not get jobs because no family member was already employed in said company
or son of director/union chief
Report Alias April 10, 2013 9:07 AM BST
Alias people will always help their own or would you not help your own son/daughter get on?

Not if it meant kow-towing to evil. - That's the diference between her and normal human beings.

people could not get jobs because they would not join a union

and plenty of people could not get jobs because no family member was already employed in said company
or son of director/union chief..?

Capitalism has always tried to refuse work to union members. It's not in their interest - get it?
Report Kelly Brook April 10, 2013 10:17 AM BST
I'm no expert but wasn't the mining industry losing a great deal of money when the decision was taken to close the pits and concentrate on gas production instead?

About 1/3 of the pits ran at a loss in absolute terms but this fails to take into account the extended cost , the loss of supporting industries , social benefits , etc . It net terms it would have been cheaper to the treasury to keep them open . Particularly galling given that it was fairly obvious that the continued rise in oil prices meant that coal would continue to increase in value .

Instead the Tories chose ideological war and short term gain turning to a reliance on millions of tonnes of cheap South American coal produced on the back of slave labour to burn for power .  Incentives were given to build gas fired power stations despite the fact that British gas reserves were only a quarter that of coal.

As this century progresses im sure we'll come to realise what an economic disaster this has been .
Report jackdanny April 10, 2013 10:25 AM BST
I'm no expert but wasn't the mining industry losing a great deal of money when the decision was taken to close the pits and concentrate on gas production instead?

About 1/3 of the pits ran at a loss in absolute terms but this fails to take into account the extended cost , the loss of supporting industries , social benefits , etc . It net terms it would have been cheaper to the treasury to keep them open . Particularly galling given that it was fairly obvious that the continued rise in oil prices meant that coal would continue to increase in value .

Instead the Tories chose ideological war and short term gain turning to a reliance on millions of tonnes of cheap South American coal produced on the back of slave labour to burn for power .  Incentives were given to build gas fired power stations despite the fact that British gas reserves were only a quarter that of coal.

As this century progresses im sure we'll come to realise what an economic disaster this has been .

If we ever need to take coal from under the ground again all the skills to do so have been all but lost. Never mind though , I hear those Poles are quite good at mining.
Report Jack Hacksaw April 10, 2013 10:32 AM BST
I think more of a problem of not having the skills would be getting enough feckers to work down there.
Report wit-ham April 10, 2013 10:38 AM BST
at least we will still have coal for our gas fired power stations when the world has run out Grin
Report brendanuk1 April 10, 2013 5:54 PM BST
Germans still subsidising coal till 2018 at least
Report Burton-Brewers April 10, 2013 6:05 PM BST
Germany are scrapping their nuclear power stations and building more coal fired ones as they also have to import electricity. Their neighbours Poland are rubbing their hands at all the extra coal they will be selling them.
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