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northernlad5
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Hold on to your seats 'cos your in for an incredible ride!
'The Guardian's: Extra Terrestrial Intervention on Earth', first appeared on the Politics Forum 4 Aug 2012. That was the first draft, and explained the circumstances that brought me into contact with the 'Guardians' extra terrestrial men from Bocalis Sati, a binary star system in the constellation of Hydra around 250 light years from Earth. It also explained why they had come too our planet and gave some basic information about their world, their science & there philosophy.

This second draft includes a much more in depth analysis and extracts are taken from three works:-

'Anatomy of Creation', 'Seven Days Last September', & 'Fluid Thought', that I began writing having first met 'Guardians'-  Castor & Pollux in Sept 96 & continued after they left in in 97, until 2001.
   
Many new features include:-

Theory of Solar Coding:-      New Theory of Electromagnetic Radiation featuring, - The  New Theory of Light.
                                          New Theory of Electromagnetism.
                                          New Theory of Evolution including Human Physiology                                   
                                          New Theory of Physiological & Psychological Relationships Sexuality
                                          New Theory of Planet Earth
                                          New Theory of Religion & Philosophical Ideology
                                          New Theory of Cultural & Social Evolution
                                          New Theory of  World Politics.
Theory of Universal Coding   New Theory – Life After Death?
                                          New Theory of Extra Terrestrial Life. Including Time Travel.

All the above will also be incorporated into The Grand Unified Theory of Quantum Relativity.
For the first time pictures of  Castor & Pollux & of one of their Craft leaving Blackpool in Oct 97. will also be included.

As with the first draft,the second will be posted in packets of information (quanta) at random intervals,
but because of the amount,& complexity of the subject matter the installments will be at longer intervals.
                                           





The Moon Landings

It was the realization of a goal that President John F. Kennedy had set eight years earlier in a speech to Congress:

“First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth. No single space project in this period will be more impressive to mankind, or more important for the long-range exploration of space; and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish.”

Kennedy's speech to congress in May 1961 was made just one month after the USSR had successfully put man (Yuri Gagarin) in space for the first time. Two years earlier the Soviets had successfully put Sputnik the first man made satellite into orbit. During this period the US had struggled to put anything larger than a 2 kilo bag of sugar beyond the confines of our own planet.

Given that the Soviets were way ahead of the Americans doesn't it seem strange that a politician no less
a President would risk his reputation that in just over 8 years they would be capable of both landing a man on the moon and returning him to earth and advertising his intention's to the Soviets? And what if the Soviets beat him to it? The whole project would have been meaningless!

The only way he could make such a speech is if he knew for certain that the US would achieve that goal within the decade and for certain that the Soviets wouldn't. And how could he have possibly known that?

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Apollo 11 UFO Santa Claus Alien Encounter nsa cover up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOeRydO-Ybc

Watch the video.
Santa Clause is the Code name US Astronauts used to tell NASA of encounters with UFO's.
The Astronauts on the Apollo 11 mission didn't know it but the so called UFO traveling alongside them was infact guiding them and would both land them on the Moon and lift them back off, by use of a tractor beam.
Only a handful of people within the President's own circle & at NASA knew of this.
Santa Clause of course brings gifts, but why would the occupants or beings controlling the UFO be helping the Americans to land men on the moon?

They arrived in the late summer of 1947 from Bocalis Sati a binary star system in the constellation of Hydra some 250 light years from Earth. Their mission a 50 year contract to manage and police the Earth. To guide it safely through the five decade Ultimate Risk period, that civilizations that evolve in Solar Systems (which are as common across each galaxy as blades of grass in a meadow), & reach the scientific & technological ability to produce Nuclear Warheads, must go through. Safely without destroying themselves, damaging neighboring systems, & by keeping other alien and possibly malevolent visitors attracted by the nuclear fallout transmitions across the galaxy. From harming the Earths ecosystems.

To be continued.....
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Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
did they give you their mother's recipe?Laugh

I rather suspect they didnt come to give you cooking lesson etc, my point was...what of use have you learned/been told/shown etc from the experience that righted the wrongs of humainty (not bloody parochial improvements in fast food takeaway technology ffs)

Jumping ahead a bit but as was explained in the original  the Guardians communicate by coming down to our level of understanding & are forbidden by their protocols from giving direct information.

This is the first Ive seen of all this, you talk as though I should know this like its catherine cookson. Forbidden by protocol hey? sounds very much like the nonsense of religion using the unknown as a tool to me
Report erse2 January 25, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
northernlad, do castor and pollux know the squeeze my finger joke?
Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
I think castoral and bollux went to the wrong bedsit erse...
Report erse2 January 25, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
what, with their level of technology? shirley not.
Report northernlad5 January 25, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
Dusty,
You obviously havn't read the original draft, which if you can be bothered to wait will also be repeated in this.

Anyway off to work a busy weekend ahead!
Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
p.s. I hope northernlad you take this with the jest it was intended, I suspect you are rather unstable for whatever reason
Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
Ill have a 34 with rice and chop chop about it
Report northernlad5 January 25, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
Don't let your 'suspicions' hold you back!Sad
Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
In fact make that a 42 (Douglas Adams will be turning in his grave)
Report dustybin January 25, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
I generally remain open minded NL, if I have nothing of substance then I have nothing....and Im afraid neither have you

"hypotheses have no place in experimental science." Isaac Newton
Report Do wah Diddy January 25, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
ive SEEN A U F O OVER STOCKPORT AT NIGHT IT WENT OFF AT A MILLION MILES AN HOUR.IT WAS NOT A SHOOTING STAR AS IT WENT SIDEWAYS AND NOTHING AS EVER BEEN SEEN THAT WAS AS FAST AS THAT ,I DIDNT REPORT AS I HAD TO GET UP FOR WORK EARLY THE NEXT DAY ,AND I HAD ENOUGH TO DO
Report Do wah Diddy January 25, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
IF I HADNT OF SEEN IT ,I WOULDNT HAVE BELIEVED IT ,IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE I DONT TELL LIES TO MYSELF THAT I KNEW IT WAS TRUE
Report orioles January 25, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
This is the voice of the Mysterons. We know that you can hear us Earthmen. Our next act of retaliation will be to destroy Chit Chat. Do you hear? Chit Chat will be destroyed at midnight.

Northernlad's burger bar will be spared.

Mysterons out, bitches.
Report manxy January 25, 2013 5:02 PM GMT
northernlad5
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AG,
Rockin Horse posted earlier about the breakthrough, but alas I must get ready for work so I will watch the clip later. Not really a great suprise to me and like UFO's, I know for a fact that some have extra terrestrial life on board, but it may help those with closed minds to re-evaluate their entrenched positions.


Only twomatchpoints actually contributed on the original – giving information.
Reculver has already given an account on this thread & manxy has suplied fascinating footage on the Politics forum that I've never seen before:-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIrANSMihg

UFOTV® Presents: The Secret UFO NASA Transmissions - The Smoking Gun


ive already posted the sts80 footage here nl, months ago, no-one here including myself can explain it, there again no-one including myself think its aliens, however 'they' are self-powered, whatever 'they' are.
Report bobtoe January 25, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
NL I have a few questions for you.
You haven't described what Castor & Pollux looked like, could you?
Do you have any evidence to support your claims? any pictures or did you palm any alien technology.
And does any of your new theories have any predictability capabilities?
Report manxy January 26, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
nah he still cant pick a winner
Report burgess January 26, 2013 1:49 AM GMT
Ask Castor and Pollux to explain what games they play on their planet.
If they can't come up with anything as sophisticated as chess or even scrabble then I'm sorry
but it's all froth and bubble.
Report northernlad5 January 26, 2013 3:12 AM GMT
Bobtoe & manxy,

What is most important to me isn't the reasons that the Guardians said they were here, to protect us from destroying ourselves etc, although fascinating, and in the 15 years I've never been able to find any
inconsistencies or flaws in what they claimed – indeed it all explains the Cold war, Space race, Moon landings, Sightings  etc.

Much more important was some of the implications of their science & philosophy (which to them are pretty much the same thing).
According to their version of 'Quantum Relativity' (which is different from ours) some of the most profound questions of our existence are answered.

Nothing can be 'singular' in a quantum relative universe.

Because, according to them quantum relativity governs everything from sub atomic quarks, too entire galaxy's, that means that the quantum aspects apply to our pro atomic relative world, just as the relative
applies to sub-atomic particles. It is that quantum 'no singularities' aspect  applied to intelligent thinking life, that means it is certain that other intelligent life exists throughout our galaxy & the universe as a whole, and can't be argued with. So even if you don't believe what I am telling you about Guardians, Castor & Pollux, if their science & philosophy are right, you have to accept that other intelligent life forms exist.

Similarly a human being can not have a 'singular' existence, there is practically always at least three component parts to any system, and our life system is no different. Whether its three realms of reality, Reincarnations or something else, or all those things – who knows, but you can not have one singular life.
So Bobtoe there's a couple of predictions to start with – there are other intelligent beings in the universe & you will live again after your death, those are certainties.

To briefly answer some of your other questions
They wouldn't let me photograph them for pretty much the same reason that they wouldn't come out to the town centre on a Sat Night and have a few beers. That would prove to all humanity that aliens exist & again their protocols forbid them giving direct information. Or who knows, maybe they just read Chit Chat & thought foreigners are not welcome here and made that excuse.

I do have some sketches I made of them in 1996 and will post them soon.
The other questions will be answered in the account.

burgess,

Funny you should mention 'games on their planet' - you must have read the first draft!
They have 'games' alright, although  they didn't look very sophisticated, but were a vital part of their life cycle.
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 5:50 AM GMT
For what it's worth saying very large things (relative) can be dictated to by the same rules as the ones that govern very small things that are their building blocks isn't anything more than common sense IMO.
It surly can not be the case that the rule changes at a given size, otherwise you'd have a point where everything has no rule whatsoever
Thing of that in your story
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 6:04 AM GMT
....and before you say 'aha that proves' anything
It doesn't. You can't suggest that because theory about 2 rules is wrong is proof of your madcap story, since you're simply being ambiguous philosophising. Obviously we know something isn't complete in theory but the present model fits more than what sonny and Cher didn't tell you.
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 6:16 AM GMT
Why not suggest that the rules of large things get governed by the same rules of small things but seem different by the collection of small things acting like a synapse that controls large things with a force like tendon?
After 15 years and meetings you don't actually suggest anything from what I've seen.
Report northernlad5 January 26, 2013 2:24 PM GMT
Your a horrible person!

CryGrin
Report Thin and Crispy January 26, 2013 2:24 PM GMT


Castor and Pollux....saying Bye Bye
Report northernlad5 January 26, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh

But now it makes me feel real sad!Cry

I wonder if they went on to have children?
Report erse2 January 26, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
did either of them fart on your useless noggin? that would vindicate travelling light years to see you.
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
I can just see the Lurpak twins look at each other and then say..

'Shall we try flat 1B?'
Report northernlad5 January 26, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
Sat afternoon and the forum bitches are coming out in force it would seem.....

Gawd... what did I ever do to deserve this?Sad
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
Id guess it just might have had something to do with the tripe about the aliens, but I might be wrong
Report manxy January 26, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
fcukem nl, get on wiv it.
Report dustybin January 26, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
NL
I dont like the prospect of ppl being ganged upon, especially if they might already be unhinged.
But people of this place wouldnt last very long if they were gullible. There are plenty of forums and conventions full of types that would subscribe to your stories, indeed if you actually wanted answers to science why wouldnt you seek help from the pros?
ofc thats not to suggest people should be regulated in the things they post, you are free to do as you wish...but you must equally expect derision
Report erse2 January 26, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
I wouldnt try to be reasonable to northernlad. he's been spouting off how everyone on this board is homophobic, racist etc yet types out this pish with a straight face.

"incredulous" would be my chosen word for his stance.
Report manxy January 26, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
show some fcukn respect will ewes, the guy has been to the far side of our universe  and back.
Report northernlad5 January 26, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
I'm sure I never mentioned homophobia! (though it would not surprise me). Xenophobia & Godophobia (if there is such a word) are indeed prevalent (you've only to read moisoks crap, & then he has the audacity to report me to betfair for pointing out we invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, getting one of my threads removed)

Anyway another wasted afternoon & I'm off to work!

erse & Dustyvim need to concentrate on the substance of my last argument ie -
No singularites - many other intelligent life forms - more than one life existance!
Report erse2 January 26, 2013 6:03 PM GMT
your post is just nonsense and it's quite obvious it's just abstract ideas about how you think some of the science of the universe works.

you obviously weren't told anything 'new' because the whole episode was a figment of your imagination, it'd be impossible to tell yourself something you didn't already know Wink

anyways, im one of those very sane types that enjoy boring reality. i think youre getting it mild in this thread out of respect for mental illness.
Report manxy January 26, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
thank you doctor erse,
Report erse2 January 26, 2013 7:55 PM GMT
if i was a doctor i'd have sectioned him after the 1st post.
Report bobtoe January 26, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
Okay so the predictions it makes are other intelligent beings in the universe, the Drake equation does that depending on the assumptions made but we have yet to find whether it is correct. Personally I believe there is an extremely high chance there is, knowing the building blocks of life can be found in meteorites and due to the shear number of stars and galaxies there are in the universe.

http://www.seti.org/drakeequation

Life after death, I can't think of a way to test this prediction. And no, I'm not going to kill myself.

You see, Einstein made 3 predictions to test his theory of General Relativity, 1 that gravity bends light which was successfully measured during an eclipse. 2, it predicted the orbit of the planet Mercury which Newtonian physics couldn't do. And 3, it predicted the slowing down of time due to gravity, this is what all Global Positioning Systems use and can be measured with an atomic clock.

For a scientific theory to have any value, it must have utility. In truth you don't have a theory in the scientific use of the word you have an hypothesis. All you seems to have is anecdotal evidence which is the lowest form of information in science.

So why should anybody take your claims serious.
How can we distinguish with what you are saying from what a patient in a lunatic asylum might be saying.
Report manxy January 26, 2013 9:15 PM GMT
you can trust a kebabist imo.
Report Shanelee1966 January 26, 2013 9:25 PM GMT
Surely it isn`t meant to be taken too seriously, to me it`s just a bit of light reading.

No need to abuse him.
Report Shanelee1966 January 26, 2013 9:26 PM GMT
No more fantasy than many others.
Report northernlad5 January 27, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
"you can trust a kebabist imo."
Laugh that's quite funny!

As for some of the other comments, it's OK. Shanalee,
It seems the 'dorks' (Dawkins fundamentalist's) have become the new Catholic Church and I now realise what the likes of Galileo (no not the horse manxy)Laugh Copernicus, & Darwin had to put up with.

Bobtoe,

“All you seems to have is anecdotal evidence which is the lowest form of information in science”.


So far I've only given one theory 'Electromagnatism' relating to sub-atomic particles & chemical reactions & on its own it is not going to make any predictions. So as I havn't even started I don't know what your on about! 

As for Einstein, Bobtoe, I wondered when he'd be dug up! Incidententally I was born on the same day he died in 1955. Although I obviously don't read anything into it.

Some of Einstien's predictions relating to his  General Theory of Relativity 1916, were not shown to be correct until many years later & as Castor & Pollux did not say our science is wrong, but that it had large gaps and more importantly, lacked an overall cohesive structure, you seem to be dimissing the many theories to come before even knowing what they are.

So our two resident trolls erse & Bobtoe have, with their medical expertise, concluded that I'm a lunatic,Crazy & should be sectionedCrazy before I've even said anything! What sort of fruitcake's does that make them?CrazyCrazy

No matter, coming back to Einstien, I'm afraid one of the sacred cows of his life's work & of our modern science is about to be slaughtered. Einstien's Special Theory of Relativity 1905, relating too electromagnetic radiation & the speed of light is about to be proven incorrect.
The main problem with it is that if it was correct Castor & Pollux could not have possibly got here in the 2 year travel period that they claim.

New Theory of Electromagnetic Radiation, is up next....
Report erse2 January 27, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
"So our two resident trolls erse & Bobtoe have, with their medical expertise, concluded that I'm a lunatic,Crazy & should be sectionedCrazy before I've even said anything! What sort of fruitcake's does that make them?CrazyCrazy"

This is what makes you patently uninspiring (as well as crazy)

You've already posted your "theories" in the politics forum and have alluded to it a couple of times already, on this very thread. The simple fact that you're acting like I'm "jumping the gun" sums up your logic and mindset.

I'll not bother posting any more of the patently obvious.
Report dustybin January 27, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
Complete jibberish and waffle.
More about birthdays than scientific analysis. Brings up comments relating to Einstein, Galileo and himself Laugh
Theory of relativity about to be proven wrong, get on with it man then, that's speculation not science.
Report dustybin January 27, 2013 1:08 PM GMT
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1998- The boys surprise me with birthday cake and tell me about 'singularity' while winking that Einstein died on my birthday....so I must be Einstein reincarnate!!!!!!


1998- Aug, Me and lads larking around, ohh them guys!!


1998- Returning from 14 willion willion light years away, all looks pretty similar
Report bobtoe January 27, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
Northernlad I'm probably giving you more respect than you deserve, how am I trolling by asking questions.

I didn't call you a lunatic, I asked how do we distinguish you from one?

My point was, General Relativity made predictions, then these were tested to discover if it was true or not. You have offered nothing to test therefore your so-called theory is useless.

Nice snaps by the way Laugh
Report northernlad5 January 27, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
Bobtoe,
Do you ever try to absorb imformation you are given?

"My point was, General Relativity made predictions, then these were tested to discover if it was true or not. You have offered nothing to test therefore your so-called theory is useless."

And I've already said...

Apart from one, I havn't given you any yet!

As for the first draft on the Pol. forum, that was just an outline of why the Guardians were here.

I wonder what Castor & Pollux would advise in the face of all this barracking, which is like being confronted with the bully boys in a primary school playground.

Pollux would probably say:- "Just ignore them & get on with it"
While Castor would no doubt say "OR... kill & eat them"
Pollux was always the more diplomatic of the two!

This next part is quite a complex story in itself, so I'll take what I think Pollux's advice would be a concentrate on writing it.
Report manxy January 27, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
they would taste like chit anyway
Report northernlad5 February 2, 2013 3:01 AM GMT
Some of you might be wondering what my family & friends thought of all this, when I told them of my extraordinary encounter having already witnessed my changing behaviour?
Well over the weeks and months it went on their attitude seemed to go from a sort of sympathetic “Yeah yeah whatever!” stance, to a “You really need to get some help – your losing it man , big time!” So much so that I had already started to avoid them. Having already given up my job I moved to a flat in Blackpool cos that’s where I knew I should be – alone!

Casper & Pollux wouldn't give me any information directly, they were not allowed to, but they could give me series of clues & flash images into my mind, that I would have to work out.

Revelations.

Point, wave, sphere & reverse, the image I had seen in the bedroom that night was in fact an equation.
The ultimate equation that explains everything in our universe & theirs!

Solving the problem of why aliens bothered coming here, took some time, but I got there in the end.

Casper & Pollux would never move on to the next problem, until I solved the one at hand.
For intelligent thinking beings like ourselves & the aliens there are:-

Three Realms of Reality.

1st Realm. Solar System Evolution of Intelligent Thinking Beings.
2nd Realm Binary System Progression by Gaining of Knowledge.
3rd Realm Tri Star System. Transfer from Physiological Beings into I.E. (Intelligent Energy).

Both 2nd & 3rd Realm systems, are a progressions from one state to a higher state of being & awareness.
When we die as humans, we are re-incarnated into a Binary Star System, that has Two Time Dimensions, & Four Space Dimensions. Having reached the required level of attainment in the 2nd Realm, we enter the 3rd Tri Star Realm. Our progression through, changes our physiological being, from material thinking beings, into Intelligent Energy.


So now you see why these alien guardians from Bocalis Sati would want to stop us destroying ourselves. We feed their system, human destruction on earth would mean lost generations on theirs & the same with other Solar Systems that feed theirs.

Because of their extra space dimensions their world exists around the atomic level, their physiology is much more fluid than ours, as are their materials, with many more chemical elements in their Periodic Table. Because their world is so much smaller than ours they have physical access to the sub-atomic
and thus Quantum Mechanics, has far greater influence, than our bulky physiology, that is governed by Relativity. By shutting down their extra space dimensions, they can expand into our Relative world.

Although we are too bulky to access their two extra space dimensions. The reverse time dimension exists throughout the Universe, we are just unaware of it.

Any visiting Alien can work out the number of elements in our periodic table by looking at our life forms & physiology of our Solar bodies.

In a Solar System:-

Basic Particle
Proton (point) Electron (wave)Atom (sphere) 3
X
Space Dimension's 3
X
Solar Bodies
Sun (point)1 Kepler Belt(wave)1 Planetary Syt(sphere)8 = 10
+
Time Dimensions 2
Total92
There are 92 naturally occurring chemical elements Hydrogen – Uranium in our Solar system.

Unfortunately I could never find out how many Binary Bodies exist in the Bocalis Sati system otherwise their number of elements could be worked out.

The Atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a 1 megaton weapon.
By the end of the Cold War both sides had thousands of nuclear warheads each up to 100 megatons.

Part of the reason (but not the whole) alien life from Binary Star systems move so quickly, is that their extra dimension's curl space up like an elongated string, thus they can leap from one side to another, cutting out most of the distance rather like the 'wormholes' in sci fi. And where ever they can go, massive amounts of Gamma & X ray radiation released in a Nuclear War can also go, leaking into their and other systems.

I think that explains why releasing Atomic Bombs on Earth attracts such alien Interest.

Castor & Pollux both had this deep faith which was I suppose religious but without them ever mentioning God.
They both firmly believed that after reincarnation into the Third Realm there final destination would be to become part of this phenomena they called Intelligent Energy & the way they described it made it sound as if there were both God like, monotheistic 'Abrahmic' relative aspects, & of course the complimentary polytheistic quantum aspects.

I could see parallels with the religion I was brought up in, - Roman Catholicism & later with their encouragement in studying world religion, I could see the polytheistic parallels with eastern religious concepts.
I bought a Bible and remember some of the best and most fascinating hours I spent with C&P were me reading passages from it & them asking me questions.
Pollux was particularly interested in the crucifixion of Christ & the story of his resurrection and had trouble understanding the 'only one God'  concept with the Father, Son & Holy Spirit, which he thought sounded like three gods, but from what I could remember from the Priests interpretation from when I was young, I tried to explain it to him.

The Guardian's, Supervision & Control, of the USSR v USA Arms & Space Race. - According to Caster & Pollux.

Civilization’s that have two major powers & have reached the scientific level always produce atomic weapons more quickly than in a world were there is only one major power until of course that supremacy’s threatened.

Once a civilization has produced nuclear weapons, the next major step is to produce Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles,so as to deliver the nuclear warheads as quickly & accurately as possible on your enemy, giving them no time to respond.

They arrived in Earth's higher atmosphere, above the north pole in June 1947 having traveled 250 light years from their world Bocalis Sati, in a Binary Star System, in the Constellation of Hydra.

Like all their craft,the 'mother ship' has 'electron field' surrounding the vessel that means they can not be seen unless of course they want to,in which case they simply turn it off.

Their first contact with the indigenous beings of a planet are always with the leading politicians.
Always in the early hours and always when their subject is alone and in their private quarters.
Initially both Harry S Truman & Joseph Stalin would have thought that security had been breached & these aliens were actually in the same room as themselves as I did during my first encounter. In fact the Guardians were just transmitting a 3D image to the back of the retina of the eye's,they, the aliens never leave their craft. The Shield Protocols regulate & govern their behavior when visiting 'lower realm'Solar Systems.
Though far more advanced aliens from 2nd Realm Binary's also suffer viruses (similar to our common flu for example). Given that their reason for coming here is to stop us destroying ourselves,they would not risk one of their 'super virus's' from infecting Earths population & causing a pandemic our immune system had never seen before & would be totally unable to cope with!

Part of the 'Shield Protocol' advises a diplomatic 'softly, softly' “ We are here to ask for your help to ensure that nuclear development on earth does not lead to mass destruction. In return we offer our help in advancing your nuclear programme!” approach.

According to Caster & Pollux,Stalin was far more relaxed & compliant than Truman during their first encounter's with our Guardians and in the days and weeks after.
Reading between the lines of what our alien friends described. Stalin seemed flattered that advanced being's would seek his help,& like 'Caeser', may have thought these strange but advanced being's, would be an invaluable addition to his 'court'.

Truman on the other hand was visibly shaken & stunned into silence during his first encounter.

Perhaps because it was him who ordered the dropping of nuclear weapons on Hiroshima & Nagasaki, he may have taken their offer of averting nuclear destruction, as a criticism & perhaps because if these were real aliens, his action might be responsible for attracting a power that would be clearly more technologically advanced than the US.

UFO's. & Foo Fighters

The term actually means any flying object that is unidentified. Through the last century it has become synonymous with possible alien controlled craft, typically flying saucers.
Alien craft have been coming here since before homosappiens evolved. Although it is theoretically possible for beings from other Solar Systems to reach us – for example runaway Giant Red Star Betelgeuse, had it had a planetary system & beings similar, but a far older civilization to ours, would have had to build a Star Ship before Betelgeuse expanded into a giant red burning up their planet. Many generations would have lived & died on the ship to travel the 640 light years to Earth.
Obviously massive advances in science would need to be made before we could build a ship capable of sustaining life for such a long period & it is highly unlikely that our Galaxy is old enough to have produced enough Red Giants that one or two might have had a planetary system that allowed life to evolve & be old enough to reach the necessary level of science to produce such a star ship even out of necessity.
We can therefore safely assume that alien craft that visit Earth are from 2nd Realm Binary Systems.
These advanced alien civilizations come here primarily in their quest for knowledge & to experiment.
The acquirement of knowledge is like food, fame, & material riches to us, they can't grow & develop without it, that's why there here & that’s why they experiment. I'll come back to this later.

Just as we humans have evolved from caves too space flight in 10,000 years. So have Binary's through out the Galaxy, & thus more of them visit Earth as they acquire the ability for inter stellar space flight.
As we gained the ability to fly at the beginning of the 20th centuary so more encounters with UFO's were recorded.
During WWII there were many encounters with UFO's so called Foo Fighters. Balls of fiery looking light that would hang in the sky then follow military aircraft often in group formation, often hanging off the wings of aircraft & making maneuvers - sudden turns at high speed, or stopping dead, that aircraft especially at that time were incapable of making.

Caster & Pollux told me to read up on this subject & for a couple of weeks I visited Blackpool's main library, as they were going to ask me question about it later.

I had always believed that there was other intelligent life in the universe simply on a mathematical basis. The fact we have evolved and to my mind there must be similar planetary systems by the billion, judging on the number of stars, throughout the universe, then all that would be needed is similar conditions to our own, for life to evolve on at least some of these systems.
Alien beings visiting our planet however I dismissed pretty much on a similar mathematical basis that the distances between even our closest stars would make it impossible to reach us.
Of course now I new different but from all reports of UFO's which ones are possibly genuine alien encounters? Which are natural phenomena? And which are fake?

With some the help of some clues from Caster mainly, and all that I'd read of reports, I came to my assessment:-

The official and most likely explanation that had developed over the 50 years regarding Foo Fighters, that they were intact quite advanced Nazi secret weapons that were sent up from the occupied territories to intercept allied aircraft too disorientate the crews and distract them from there mission's & mess up there transmission signals. I had to reject.

First of all, on all we know about the Nazi mentality, does it seem feesable that they would produce a weapon advanced enough too:-

Hang static in the sky.

Follow passing aircraft, mimicking all its maneuvers then fly off at great speed.

Fly in, and change formation.

Make sudden & abrupt high speed maneuvers that even today’s aircraft wouldn’t be incapable of.

All that without ever any reports of damage to any allied plane, & simply to disorientate the crews.

With all we know of Nazi mentality.
Nazi secret weapon technology produced the “Doodlebug” & V2 rocket designed to smash enemy resistance with an iron fist & were crude in comparison to the Foo Fighters. Had the Nazi's had such advanced systems, I'm sure they would have done more with them than tickle their enemy's stomach.

Another problem is that there were numerous reports of Foo fighters in the Pacific Theatre of War. & from as far west as the Indian ocean. Although allied, would the Nazi's have given this technology to the Japanese? Would they have risked it being captured in transport & adapted to do real damage to the Luftwaffe?

Apart from allied aircrew members reporting the Foo Fighters, German & Japanese crews also reported them.

Secret weapon's the Nazi's had in the pipeline but never produced including the Atomic bomb have been found documenting details, but no Foo Fighters (up to 1997).

So on the basis of all the above points, Nazi secret weapon technology just doesn't make any sense!

Where the Foo Fighters alien craft?

No!
Fiery balls, that are clearly seen and there were reports of at least one being shot down, exploding & setting houses on fire, doesn't fit in with alien craft or there alien behavior.
If they knew that a few bullets from a tail gunner would be capable of causing their craft to explode they would hardly make themselves a visible target or bother the aircraft, especially as they have the ability to shrink down to the atomic level and can't be seen or detected behind their electron shield.

Where they natural phenomena?

No!

Too many sighting across the globe in all different weather conditions & temperatures & besides what natural phenomena fly's in varying formation performs u-turns & synchronized maneuvers.

Then what were they?

Although the Foo Fighters themselves were not alien craft I came to the conclusion the were the product's & controlled by alien craft's that would have been hidden either above or bellow the craft the airplane formation.
WWII would have been the first real opportunity to study our military and particularly flying technology en mass with so many different air force’s, aircraft of all manner in combat. To the aliens who don't have our moral concerns, don’t see death in the way we do, it would have been a unique opportunity to study and test our military aircraft technology – for them it must have seemed like X-mas. The balls were possibly some form of electromagnetic plasma, controlled by their tractor beams.
Anyone remember those infra red torches that you could focus a point of light on a target and move it about? Well similar to that. Their objective not just to study how the various aircraft would respond to these possible threats but also how the crew & the pilot's in particular would respond.

When I told of my findings to Caster & Pollux, Caster said:-

“Not totally accurate on the electro - plasma balls... but If we had been here at that time we would have been doing very similar experiments!”
Report northernlad5 February 3, 2013 12:34 PM GMT
It was a 'white hot' summer day. From my 1st floor window I could see lots of traffic in the street below
people were milling around sort of aimlessly, or so it seemed.

Without looking back at them I asked Castor & Pollux:-

“If you had been born here on Earth, what would you have wanted to be?

“Air Force  fighter pilot!”  said Castor quickly.

Then after some time Pollux said:-

“The best thing I had both the potential & opportunity to be!”
Report zekial February 3, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
crackin read - lookin forward to nezt installment
Report northernlad5 February 4, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
Zekial,
Thanks very much your comments are very much appreciated!
Report northernlad5 February 7, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
I was nervous when Caster & Pollux arrived that September day that I had to present an alternative theory to that of the greatest scientist that ever lived Albert Einstein and his 'Special Theory of Relativity' 1905, which has received world acclaim & acceptance since, and is pretty much cast in stone by the scientific community & apparently can't be questioned.

When I say alternative theory, I was only concerned with the behavior of 'light' or 'c' & not SR itself.
Unlike electromagnetism I did have a little knowledge of the apparent behavior of light though two earlier experiences.

The first was in a Geography lesson after I had sat my 'O' Level and we had finished our study's on the
subject but in the remaining few weeks before we left, were obliged to go and listen to the Geography teachers philosophy of life.

He was one of the younger teachers (early thirties) but was also deputy head & for some reason although not the PE teacher, always played football/cricket with us in our 'double games'. Anybody who has seen the film 'Kes' with I think it was Brian Glover who played the PE teacher will have some idea of what he was like, although that's a bit exaggerated.
Geography was a subject I really liked & was good at in primary school, but I found the manner of this particular teacher, difficult and rather than teach he seemed to get greater satisfaction from making derogatory comments, not about mine, but about those not so interested in the subject.
Every time I hear that 'Brick in the Wall' song by Pink Floyd I'm reminded of him.

Anyway he started going on about 'Star Trek' & 'warp' speeds', then to the 'speed of light' and I remember him saying that whatever speed or direction you (the observer) moves in, the 'speed of light'
always remains the same.

“That doesn't make sense Sir!”

I said, to the amazement of my four fellow students – yes only five of us survived to take 'O' Level Geography.
Surprised by my outburst he said:-

“ It may not make sense to you 'nothern', but it makes perfect sense to the greatest scientist who ever lived  Albert Einstein!”

As he turned back to the blackboard my four other student mates smiled and shook their heads.
I continued with:-

“O well that explains it Sir!”

Later on I went to the school library to investigate his claims and of course found he was right.
For a few years after I'd always pick up books relating to the behavior of light, hoping to get some sort of explanation to what I and many others thought a paradox. However I eventually gave up and remember thinking -  scientists I'd always thought, seek to find truth in everything, but it seems they are perfectly happy with a 'truth' that doesn't make sense. Which for some reason deeply bothered me.

The second experience relating to 'light' came in 1976. It began in the spring & lasted into September -
The hottest Summer I can ever remember. I was working nights although only 20, and used to come home and sleep in my shorts in the back garden. The first day I got badly burned so I went to the chemist & bought the most expensive suntan oil I could find. Bergasol was around 8 pounds a bottle which was a lot in those days. After using Bergasol I very quickly went brown from the red burnt look of the first day. I remember I had bad acne in my late teens within a few days that disappeared.
I started to have an amazing effect on women cos by the end of summer I looked far darker than most of the Asian lads I worked with. I'd become a babe magnet & started to attract even gals that I'd previously considered out of my league. I remember walking into a pub and I heard one of a group of women say:-

“God he looks like Apollo!”

To which another added:-

“Bet he's got a massive ****!”

And they all started laughing, which was quite embarrassing.

Anyway the point is reading the Bergasol info – it was the first time I'd read about the harmful effects of Ultra Violet Radiation from the Sun, prior to that - I'd just thought it shone.

Occasionally my mother would come out & sit in the garden, she had red hair & freckles and always just went red & burned. I tried several times to get her to use the Bergasol & explained about UVR, but she said she'd always  used coconut oil & wouldn't stop now.
I remember by August she developed stomach cramps, and in early September was diagnosed with skin cancer, by the following middle of March the cancer had spread right through her body & killed her.

Again over the following few years I'd read up on the Sun, light, radiation but it still all baffled me.

So when I was asked to write a new theory of  'light' & electromagnetic radiation, as I said unlike electromagnetism I did  at least know a little about it, but the downside was I'd never been able to understand it. However from what Castor & Pollux had told me about their 2 year voyage  250 light years across the Galaxy to reach Earth, I knew Einsteins Theory of Special Relativity can't be correct. Or at least not wholly correct.


Solution of the Speed of Light Paradox.

My theory explains the “Speed of Light Paradox” that will make sense of why whatever the speed/velocity of the observer & in whatever direction the speed of light always remains the same.
To do so however one “holy cow” from Einsteins Theory of relativity must be slain.
It was Henri Poincare & not Einstein who first postulated the theory that nothing can move faster than the speed of light, Einstein later agreed with this premise.

It was the seventh day after my first encounter with Castor & Pollux. In those few day's what I'd learned from them had my mind racing through a myriad of problems that my education had failed to explain -
How & why for example, & according to the fossil record between 33,000 & 10,000 years ago human's (h0mo sappiens)suddenly appeared West to East in Europe whilst Neanderthals began to disappear W – E. How the distribution of the Earth's continents came about. These and many more questions that had always bugged me that I and everybody else didn't really have a clue about, now I was finding logical explanations for.

So to the speed of light paradox, If I could solve this – I could solve anything.

I should make it quite clear that I am not questioning that 'c' speed of light is a constant and always remains the same regardless of the speed/direction of the  observer and/or the speed of source itself.
All I'm attempting is to find out is how & why it behaves like that!

Light, what is it?
Photon particle/waves which obey the laws of Quantum Mechanics – given off in packets (quanta).
From my understanding of the laws of QM, nothing can be singular, how therefore can light have a single speed? Perhaps light isn't a single entity.
Light is in fact radiated energy.
Take the Sun as an example.
Radiated energy from the Sun is omitted in every direction.......

I was sat there thinking about the problem when into my head came the Guardian's equation – point,wave, sphere. REVERSE.

….radiated energy from the Sun is omitted in every direction …. including back to source!

Another statement of theirs came into my head.....

“The intelligent thinking observer is always in the middle of the system - regardless of what the system is!”
What if when we see light, we are in the middle of a system – a sphere of radiation waves traveling at TWICE THE SPEED OF LIGHT OMMITTED IN THE HIGH ULTRA VIOLET that in turn give off
REVERSE WAVES  AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN THE INFRA RED the two combing when they hit something – the retina in your eye for example to produce visible light.

2X'c' Ultra Violet – 1x'c' Infra Red = 'c' Speed of Light.

Twice the speed, minus the speed, equals the speed.

Cracked it!


We only see our own light. As the observer A is in the centre of a radiation sphere (a bubble) & see's
light - an average of photon waves @ 2x'c' Ultra V. – 1x'c' Infra R – i.e an average that makes up visible light. As the observer moves to position B the radiation sphere simply contracts – the average speed remains constant. If the observer was to move from B back away from source past A to a position further away, the radiation sphere would just keep expanding the average speed of radiation @ the centre remaining at 'c' speed of light.

Doppler effect.
Just as the sound of a car coming towards you (sound waves crunched up) is different from the sound of a car going away (sound waves strung out). So light source coming towards you appears “blue shifted”,
whilst a light source going away appears “red shifted”.

Scientist have discovered that all Galaxies are traveling away as they all appear “red shifted”.
My theory also explains this. As the observer moves at speed towards the source of light (Sun) you are hitting Ultra Violet waves faster and faster as you accelerate the shift in light becoming bluer.
Accelerating away from source you are now hitting Infra Red waves faster shifting the light to the red end of the spectrum!

This both solves & completes my Theory of a Solution to the Speed of Light Paradox.



Castor & Pollux arrived at last and I had the diagram you’ve just seen on the table.
Pollux sat down opposite me with Castor stood by his side.
Without touching it they both stared at it intensively.
They then started to exchange a few sentences in their own strange language.

“*!*^**”>||{ |**”|\ |^” said Castor
“>”{**)(Z|)(*””!+|\\/~`~>
Report northernlad5 February 7, 2013 10:04 PM GMT
Sorry for some reason the last few paragraphs havn't appeared. If you ignore this,- read through and then this is the final few paragraphs as follows:-

Obviously I hadn't a clue what they said. Then Castor bent  down put his hand over the diagram and
said:-

“You could have done it like this....”

He lifted his hand and pulled it up into a 3D image – The yellow circle representing the Sun became a little glowing yellow ball. All the blue outgoing ultra violet rings & infra red reversed rings where now
traveling out & returning back to source but with depth & many more.
Castor then pulled his hand around the yellow ball and the image spread around the central yellow glowing ball representing the Sun. This produced many many more rings of ultra & infra red radiation.
The black dot representing the observer, started to move. The inner bubble contracted around
the dot/observer and the radiation rings were coming in from every angle producing ever decreasing circles around the dot /observer that produced viable light. As the dot/observer moved towards the yellow glowing ball the the bubble contracted  around it/him, & as Casters hand drew the dot/observer away the bubble expanded – the dot/observer always in the centre & the multi rings always collapsing around it/him producing visible light.

Caster pulled his hand away, the three dimensional image just evaporated and all that was left was my now rather sad two dimensional interpretation – the diagram on the table.

“How could I do that...”  I protested.

“You could have made a model!” Castor said.

Pollux who had remained quiet then said:-

“ Its OK – it gives an accurate base explanation!”
Report orioles February 7, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
... so I became a taxi driver.
Report northernlad5 February 7, 2013 11:22 PM GMT
Actually I didn't - I gave up a very lucrative living (taxi drving) & went & lived in a Blackpool bedsit sensing something was about to happen!

And it did - beyond anything I could have ever imagined!
Report blackburn1 February 8, 2013 8:12 AM GMT
Nut job
Report northernlad5 February 10, 2013 1:35 AM GMT
Why Me?

Before going any further I should explain what I had to go through for you even to be able to read this account that took 5.5 years of my life.

I had given up my home in the sleepy little village I lived since the age of 8. I had given up my career & by far the worst of all – I had abandoned my wife & five year old daughter, my family & friends.
All to move as an now unemployed (for the first time in my life) person into a dingey little one room bedsit in Blackpool not far from the Tower, and I didn't even know (at the time) why.

All I did know was that whatever the pain & suffering I had caused there was no going back.

It didn't take people long to find me a couple of weeks in fact. First friends, then my older brother, then the boss of the company I worked for and then my wife.
My boss said he understood that sometimes family's had “problem's”, to take the time I needed and come back to work. My wife on the other hand thought it was the pressures of work. In truth it was neither, I knew there was a purpose for my course of actions & soon all would become clear.
Years later I watched a TV documentary about a bloke who had a high profile job at Heathrow Airport.
Wining & dining executives & celebrities. One day instead of going to work he took himself off to the New Forrest. He lived by making a catapult and killing squirrels and soon learned what vegetation was edible. He stayed there for months, his wife and family hadn't got a clue as to why he had simply vanished or his whereabouts. Eventually he went back but the damage was done and he lives separated from both his wife & family.

People might find it difficult to understand how both he & I could be so selfish. I understood him, although in his case it WAS the pressures of both work & family life.
As the months went by visits became fewer & fewer as people realised I had changed, most suggesting I was going through some sort of breakdown. At first I denied it, but as time went on realised it was better not to try to dissuade them from there assessment, as it seemed to make thing's easier – at least it was some explanation for them.

One day I decided to go up to the beach. As I passed Coral Island I turned left causing a car to do an emergency stop in in the road. I stared in at its occupants & saw Paul Gascoigne & Garry Linekers brother (he owned Linekers bar further up the front). They looked shocked, followed me across theroad with their eyes, looked at each other and burst into laughter.
Later when I got back I looked in the mirror and realised my appearance had changed. The clean cut image had gone. Longish unkempt hair, three days stubble. I looked a bit like Cat Stevens in the 60's.
Now I live alone in another small village about 15 miles from Blackpool & about 25 miles from where I used to live. The last time I saw Castor & Pollux was just before they left our Solar System in Oct 97 on the last Friday of the Tory Party Conference which was held in Blackpool that year and is significant & I'll come back to why later.
Linekers bar has long gone & Paul Gascoigne seems to have had his own problems – how times change!

Twin Towers.

No doubt back in the 1930's going to the movies to watch say Flash Gordon land on the moon was no doubt harmless entertainment for the vast majority of people. Anyone continually going on about it long after the movie and theorising as to whether the fete was achievable would start to raise eyebrows & eventually be labeled a looney – the word is actually derived from “lunar”.

Caster & Pollux told me on more than one occasion that something was going to happen quite soon on our planet that will change our world, that would change everything. Over the months I eventually worked out that this coming event would be negative, involved Islam & the U.S but for the life of me I could not work out what. Only Governments can change the entire world and that would have to be led by the U.S. I knew that the U.S. had a lot of enemies & particularly in the Islamic world, and had suffered attacks. I also knew that even the U.S. A's old enemy Russia despised Islamic extremist and were having problems themselves in Chechnya. In fact most governments saw Islamic extremists as a threat - Anti Capitalist, Anti Secular, Anti Modernity. Anti Human Rights.

After the Oklahoma bombing turned out to be the work of Timothy McVeigh & not Islamic extremists as first thought. I couldn't see how they (Islamic Exstreamists) could ever do anything damaging enough for the Americans to react in such a way that would “change the world – change everything!” as Caster & Pollux had claimed.

According to Caster & Pollux there is a simple pattern that runs through the entire Universe & everything that is, was & will be. Point, wave, sphere, reverse is that simple pattern. Our History, Evolution, Religion's, Philosophy’s, Physiology of the Earth's Surface, World Politics, Psychology of Human relationships, UFO's were just a few of the subjects I was told to study.

I was to find the pattern, find the component parts of the system's and link all the systems/subjects together.
We tend to have equation's expressed with numerical characters often in quite long and complex lines to express relatively simple problems & solutions, we think in linear lines, one subject at a time but never attempt to link subjects as diverse as the above together.

The Guardians use simple shapes as the basis for problem solving & think in both linear & lateral format and across concepts to form a “grid” or web of knowledge.

Jumping Genes in micro biology (genes that leap to another part of the code to another, for no reason) can be linked with leaps of the human mind, to know thing's ahead of our time. Da Vinci's helicopters, micro light aircraft & diving suits all designed by him in the 15th centuary, is an example. Einsteins theory of relativity & Nostradamus 16th Centuary prophecies - Hitler, Kennedy Brothers & 9/11.

“When the two great powers who's borders meet at the top of the world become friends. Terror will reign from the sky and the Tower will fall!”

The Guardians told me several times that all questions on the future could be answered by knowing the past.

As I watched events unfold on 9/11 and the Twin Towers fall the first thing I thought of was Nostradamus's unfulfilled quatrain -

“It was there all the time,.... I missed it, I missed it, I missed It...........!”
Report erse2 February 10, 2013 3:02 AM GMT
isn't it funny how people that bare themselves to pure reason and consequence have to deal with loony bastards like yourself. what nonsense you post. you should be locked up. you should actually self-admit yourself to somewhere that will deal with your crazy postulations.

unfortunately, what you'd rather do is impose your crazy shet on other people, which is entirely sad.
Report erse2 February 10, 2013 3:06 AM GMT
you'll probably never appreciate the bare faced-ness of my post, but you should do yourself a favour and do exactly that.
Report erse2 February 10, 2013 10:04 AM GMT
the things people type when they are drunk Laugh
Report Irish_Celtic February 11, 2013 11:37 PM GMT
Stop making an ar se of yourself erse.
Report manxy February 11, 2013 11:52 PM GMT
quite.
Report northernlad5 February 12, 2013 3:54 AM GMT
I often wondered about Castor, of my two galactic guests he was  more difficult to way up  than Pollux, who was always (well nearly always) to the point, measured in his opinions and 'businesslike'.
Now into Oct  96, it was a bit of an Indian summer and I had the  large window open that looked directly down into one of the main busy town centre streets. The curtains were not fully open leaving about a foot of open daylight in the middle. It would have been risky to open them any further as I knew anyone walking up from Church Street would be able to see into the room and might get a glimpse of my two very strange guests. I could often hear people chattering as they went by & thought if only they knew what was going on up here.
My landlady was a pet lover & well into her 80's. Each evening she would go out into the small front garden and put down potato peel & other little treats for the birds. This resulted in dozens of pigeons congregating on the three or so feet of the porch extension a few feet below my below my window.
I had to scrub it every couple of weeks as the droppings would build up & start to smell. This particular evening I was talking to Castor & Pollux who had just  arrived when a bluebottle flew in & landed on Castors chest. There was an instant crackle & it burst into flames like one of those insectocutors. By the time it reached the floor there was practically nothing left of it  and Castor stood on it. Later another fly that had been in the room went towards Castor and quick as a flash he just grabbed it between his thumb & index finger and the same thing happened, a small crackle and it was toast.

Pollux suddenly said:-
“What do you know about your origin?”

“ Well I was born in.....”

“No!”

“You mean evolution”  I replied

“No!  I mean of the entire universe?

“Eh......The Big Bang!”

I'd always been keen on documentaries about practically anything so I knew a little about how the universe was supposed to have come into being and evolved – or so I thought.

“Hmm ...Tell us about it?”  said Castor who would often give a small 'hmm' or 'grunt' before he spoke”

“ Well from what I remember.... It started from a singularity, went bang, & produced the universe.

“How exactly, - explain in detail each step!”  continued Pollux.

When I tried to think I couldn't....

“That's really all I can remember!”

I glanced at Castor who had now got his right hand through the screen of the portable telly that had been showing the 6pm News and seemed to be fiddling with something inside. The glass didn’t break & the picture didn't change, but the volume started going up  & down then the contrast & brightness.

Over the three weeks I'd got to know them I had become more relaxed in their company than was the case initially. Although I knew right from the outset they were not going to harm me – instinctively I suppose. It was still, as you can imagine, an enormous shock, - this sort of thing just doesn't happen, not to anyone, but it was happening and to me.

Castor stopped fiddling with the TV.

“ You'll need go and study very hard and quickly” said Pollux, then added:-

“ And buy a bunch of grapes!”

“Err... OK!”

With that they disappeared.
I looked at the TV Castor had been fiddling with, it was still on BBC and to be honest I couldn't hear or see any appreciable difference in either the sound or picture.

Grapes? Why do they want me to buy grapes,  I couldn't help but wonder.

As I said I'd become more relaxed with my two extra terrestrial visitors ( by this time I'd stopped thinking of them as aliens)  and although I knew I wasn't in danger from them I suppose even knowing that wouldn't have been enough for a lot of people, but I think it was my curiosity that stopped me from 'legging it'. It had not been that long ago that I did have a sort of panic attack when Pollux's forearm went through the table & his knee, but I think I was now more understanding of their physiology.

They appeared like two hologram images but definitely had some sort of real physiolgy. Their body's seemed to have some sort of electrical structure with little flecks of light running right through.
Pollux was a few inches taller than me at about 6ft 1ins. And had an athletic sort of build , while Castor was around 5.10 slightly shorter than me and stockier than Pollux. They both had this deep blueish glow. Their Eyes were smaller than a human's, and both the flickers of light and the glow that they seemed to emit made their features look a little blurred.. You would only notice the yellowness of their eyes and black – I dont know 'lemmon' shaped pupils that were horizontal when they looked you directly in the eye.
Aliens are usually portrayed as skinny little green creatures with massive eyes, big heads,  green skin and pot bellies. C&P looked  much more human, in their physical shape at least, if not in substance.

The thing I couldn't work out is why Caster had electrocuted two fly's with his physiology, but there was no such electrical activity when he was fiddling inside the TV, nor when Pollux's arm went through the table. Just more questions that needed to be answered, or so  I thought at the time.

Next time  - 'The Big Bang Bubbled' – C&P help me paint a different picture of the universe.
Report erse2 February 12, 2013 7:38 AM GMT
like I said I posted while drunk.

I think if you're going to do anything other than ridicule it you're pretty much saying this derangement is for entertainment value, which is fairly sad considering the poster seems quite serious about it all. I guess I'm the only saddo that thinks he should just go get some counselling rather than have him fill my devoid life with some sh1tey tale about alient encounters.

Wink
Report erse2 February 12, 2013 7:39 AM GMT
saying that I think I'll stop bothering with this place anyway... feckin half-wits looking for attention in the most serious-yet-pathetic ways.
Report dustybin February 12, 2013 1:51 PM GMT
foooking wellybobs, this thread still going?

I aint even gunna bother readin all that 5hite, its like when I hear the letter box go on the front door, I know there might be something of use filled out with a mountain of advertsing crap
this thread is the same....just without the slightest bit of use.
Report dustybin February 12, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
btw, NL could you send the 2 freaks round with my order please....getting peckish
Report SqueezeFirmly February 12, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
Can you find out if Nostradamus knew the winner of this years Grand National...
Report northernlad5 February 14, 2013 6:26 AM GMT
Slower, Slower
We don't have time for this
All I wants to find an easier way
To get out  of our little heads.

Have heart my friend
Were bound to be afraid
Even if its for a few days
Making up for all this mess

Light up, light up
As if you have a choice
Even if you can not hear my voice
I'll be right beside you here!

Snow Patrol
Report northernlad5 February 17, 2013 4:24 AM GMT


“So what did you learn in your library about the origin of the universe?” said Pollux

“That it is far more complicated than I initially thought - & a far bigger question!”

“Hmm.... as big as the universe itself” said Castor

“I found that the Big Bang is the dominant theoretical model that most scientist accept but there are other models – the Steady State for example that had been popular in the early 20th centuary but has fallen out of favor!”

“Why?” said Pollux.

I wasn't certain that he was asking me because he didn't know what our science said or because he did know and wanted to make sure that I knew – having said that I'm pretty sure he did know.

“Why - because advances in technology and being able to detect & observe further into space has it seems confirmed the big bang model & the detection of background microwave radiation apparently from the big bang itself sort of  confirms the big bang theory.

“You don't sound very convinced” Said Pollux.

“What makes you say that?”

“Cos we can tell!” Said Castor

“Well how would I know?” Then I went on.....

“ I did find some things a bit strange.......First, If the universe started from a singularity point and exploded outwards, I would have thought that the distribution of galaxies today would not look the same in every direction as it apparently does. But we would always know in what direction the original centre was, as it should appear denser in that direction & galaxies furthest away should be more spaced out...... A bit like an orange, if you imagine the pips to be the centre - the big bang, the segments get larger near the outer skin thus the galaxies should be in greater space”

“But that doesn't happen?”  Said Pollux

“No, apparently from observations we appear to be in the centre & the galaxies are pretty evenly distributed around us, so much so that if you viewed the universe from any other galaxy you would still be in the centre which to my mind doesn't make much sense”.

“Hmm... Whats your sciences explanation for this?” said Castor

“Most scientists are of the opinion that the universe isn't spherical but flat”

“How do they reach that conclusion?”

“ I don't know I need more time on that but there are other things I found strange, like the absence of anti-matter, something called dark matter, dark energy,  Also the distances involved in some of their observations, - how do they know they are seeing what they think they are seeing, and not just distortions.  But the biggest problem of all I found is none of this tells us anything at all about the big bang itself”.

Pollux was sat in the chair opposite me leaning forward with his elbows on his knees & his hands cupping his face – very human I thought. Castor was stood to the side of him & slightly behind.
Then I thought I'd try a bit of a ploy:-

“From what I've read, the universe was filled with dense high energy, at extremely high temperatures & under great pressures for only seconds after the Big Bang before expansion started. Could the source of this radiated energy be IE (Intelligent Energy) you two guys have talked about”.

They glanced quickly at each other then back at me...then Pollux said.

“Go on with what it says happened after the Big Bang.” (my ploy to get them to spill information about the actual Big Bang & what caused it had failed miserably)

Looking down at the notes I'd made:-

“Well apparently  just after the Big Bang, the newborn universe was packed together very tightly in a superheated cauldron. * At 10 picoseconds there was 'electroweak' phase transition. That is the weak nuclear force & electromagnetic forces separated with the temperature 1to 2 quadrillion k. K. 50 microseconds, 'QED phase transition'
occurred – that 'strangelets', - roughly equal numbers of up, down & strange quarks,  would start to be bound into neutrons & protons, at a temperature fall to 2 trillion K,One second in, neutrino's began decoupling, temp 10 billion K. In the first seconds not even atoms were stable. In the first 10seconds electron and their anti particles  - positrons started to annihilate with the temperature now 5 billion K. As the universe grew from zero size, a particle soup emerged, full of quarks, gluon's and other fundamental particles, after about a minute the quarks stuck together to form protons and neutrons according to their relative numbers, into atomic nuclei. This is when elements other than hydrogen were first formed by nuclear fusion. At 3 minutes 'nucleosynthesis' Within 15 minutes, decay of lone neutrons, temp 500 million k. 10,000 years the end of the radiation dominated era temperature 12000 K.  380,000 years after the Big Bang 'recombination' hydrogen gas  cools down to form molecules temp 3,000 K . 200 years 'reionization' first stars heat & ionize hydrogen gas, temp 50 K. 13.7 billion years after the Big Bang & today the temperature has fallen to 2.726 K.  Once the universe had cooled below the fusion limit, no more elements heavier than beryllium could be formed. So  the universe was initially filled with the nuclei of hydrogen and helium and traces of deuterium or heavy hydrogen, lithium and beryllium. All heavier elements would be formed in Super Nova's and deaths of the first few generations of massive stars”

(I did find it somewhat surreal that I dunderbrains, when it came to physics & cosmology – I knew nothing, was seemingly lecturing two super scientists from a far more advanced civilization that had traveled across the galaxy at far faster than the speed of light and were sat listening to me waffle on like eager students).

Castor and Pollux  just stared at me like they were expecting  more.....So shuffling back through the notes I'd made I went on:-

“As I said there are other theories but for the reasons I've already mentioned the Big Bang is the most popular”. However as I've also already said this so called 'singulatity' the source of the Big Bang is not going to be defined by our science as all the laws of our science break down at that singularity point – you didn't answer my question – is IE the real source and singularity point?”

“You need to study every day!” Said Pollux standing up and about to leave.

“Why?”

“Because we know, - that you want to know!” Said Castor

After they’d gone I remember thinking, - what is the point if I'm never going to find out. Until science finds out, and it can't  because the central question is beyond the ability of science.  Unless of course Castor & Pollux tell me, & that of course is if they know, and of course if they presumably do, - there never going to tell me, cos they can't.
Report northernlad5 February 22, 2013 3:25 AM GMT
Big Bang (Bubbled) continued.

My weekdays now involved spending all day in the library. I also found a bookshop that had a closing down sale that seemed to go on for months, I rememered buying one book about anthropology reduced from 18.99 to 2.99.
Once a fortnight I had to sign on, so that was the only disruption, and of course looking for work, but as it was the end of the season in Blackpool that quickly became a rather pointless task.
So each day I would go to the library arriving around 10am and stay until about 4.30pm.
I always sat in the same place, in the middle of the double desk with my back to  the science section.  On  the Tuesday a slim, tall Muslim lady came in, dressed in all black and wearing a hijab and looked around for somewhere to sit. All the single tables had people sat at them so she came over and sat at the double table on the opposite side and to the left of me in the corner. She had a very beautiful face and big brown eyes. On the Thursday the Muslim lady came in again and sat in the same position opposite me again.
Not long after a  man in his mid forties came in and again looking around spotted the large double table having picked up a load of news papers and sat opposite me and to my right but moved his chair so he was sat at an angle to the table and with his back slightly facing the Muslim lady to his left at the other end of the table. I didn't read anything into it at the time.

At that time I was concentrating on two subjects - The Big Bang/Cosmology, & theoretical particle physics and I would have five or six books on the table beside me often with anything up to four of them open at the same time.
The middle aged man put down his pile of news papers and picked out one and started reading it. I carried on reading and after a while forgot he or the Muslim lady were there and in close attendance. Then as the middle aged man turned a page in  his news paper he said:

“Nothing on the jobs front today, - never mind something will turn up!”

As I looked up he was looking in my direction so I just gave a slight grin and nodded in agreement.

Again I got absorbed in what I was reading then:-

“ See they haven’t found the head of that young lad who's body was found in a holdall  down the back of Reeds Avenue....Can't have gone far.......Sure it will turn up somewhere!”


I looked up, and of course he was looking straight at me. This time I just nodded.

Although I didn't know it at the time both the Muslim lady and the middle aged man who I had now christened Mr Macawber - from the Dickens novel, would become regular student companions over the coming months.

It wasn't too bad while he Macawber was reading the local Evening Gazette and other tabloids, but problems arose when  moved on to the the broadsheets.

I couldn't help but notice Macawber give a quick glance over at the Muslim lady and also noticed he was reading the Financial Times.

“See the price of pork has gone up again!”

I ignored him as did the Muslim lady.

“ Got some nice prime cuts from Abingdon street market – they look after me there!”

“Had so much left I gave some to 'Rusty' “ (his dog I assumed)

“ Lickin' his lips he were ha ha ha – hmm,  lickin his lips”

With that he turned the page which came down covering the corner of the book I was reading.  - I pushed it away:-

“WILL YOU SHUT UP!”

He looked at me a bit shocked as did the Muslim lady who looked up from the book she was reading for the first time and at me.


“Shoooosh!” said the lady librarian who happened to be passing looking daggers at me and with her forefinger over her closed lips.

“ I was only saying” said Macawber

“Yeah well don't I'm trying too concentrate!”  I replied, having lowered my voice and once the librarian was out of earshot.

The setting sun was starting to throw a reddish glow when Macawber rose from his chair, and gathered his papers. Although I noticed he was wearing a white England shirt,
I hadn't notice what appeared to be gravy/curry stains around the middle stretched out by his pot belly. When he turned I also noticed the 'SHEARER' letters in gold and stamped on his back.  Had hoped I'd seen the last of Macawber, but I was wrong!
Report spellingandgrammarchecker May 16, 2015 6:29 PM BST
erse2
10 Feb 13 10:04
the things people type when they are drunk



Irish_Celtic
11 Feb 13 23:37
Stop making an arse of yourself erse.


Said one of northenlad's aliases (like cryoftruth)
(which we suspected and found to be true at a later date)

He wasn't drunk when he typed it, he was completely sober.

Which shows what a fruitloop he was. LaughLaughLaugh
Report Burton-Brewers May 16, 2015 7:24 PM BST
"I quickly learned that they wouldn't turn up if was drinking, so I hardly had a drink during that period. Only when I was exhausted & needed a break from the intensity of their demands but that was only on a few occasions."

I understand it all now, he ended up damaged because he was being bummed by 2 aliens.
Report boxingthefox June 1, 2017 12:07 AM BST
northernlad5......He is your typical Labour voter..... Laugh
Report zorrostrikes June 1, 2017 2:57 AM BST
i didn't read much of that I used my special x powers to understand it through osmosis.

There are christians out there waiting for the aliens to land. Not because they believe in Aliens but because they think Satan will pretend to be them. They've seen childhoods end which is Arthur C.Clark riffing off them. Satan comes down on a spaceship twisted around as usual to be scientifically plausible. it's a blast - three parter.

Hydra's a nice touch - the dragon. Constellation there's two near Virgo. the Draco constellation too. Ptolomy second, talks about it. That guy was such a cheese ball.

a third of the angels came with Satan, they don't have wings, brightly lit. will probably pass for ETs - Rapture first though because they cannot operate while God is here. And troubadours he is here until the end of the age. (that's within the next three months) -

so no aliens for a while. three months troubadours. Then you can have them improve you and sign up with an oath. Clever Knuts.
Report Foinavon June 1, 2017 12:45 PM BST
What about the horsemen? Has anybody mentioned them? Shocked
Report boxingthefox June 1, 2017 11:22 PM BST
Plain
Report zorrostrikes June 1, 2017 11:53 PM BST
you've had war since 2001, first horseman
continuing war 2008, second horseman,
famine break out - 2015, third
pestilence - 2022, fourth

seven yrs between each?
Report boxingthefox June 1, 2017 11:58 PM BST
Zorro the Fourth one will come down at 'Beechers' or the Foinaven, buggering the whole plan up.imvho. Grin
Report zorrostrikes June 2, 2017 12:16 AM BST
the plan is immutable
Report boxingthefox June 2, 2017 12:42 AM BST
Nothing in the Universe or any other Universe Wink is immutable because everything that exists from the One that is all down to the smallest physical particle is in a state of becoming, it never has nor ever will be any other way, man thinking he is something special and has a choice of being the 'chosen one' and concocting references to this in stone age religions, adapted for modern day fools, proves his illusionary  ignorance.
Report boxingthefox June 2, 2017 5:39 PM BST
Grin
Report zorrostrikes June 2, 2017 8:57 PM BST
Cosmological constant (lambda) is 10^122 (ten with 120 zeroes)
10 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
to 1

francis crick first cell - 10^65
10 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1

N, the ratio of the strength of electromagnetism to the strength of gravity for a pair of protons, is approximately 10^36.
10 000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1

the Hoyle state, the third-lowest energy state of the carbon-12 nucleus, with an energy of 7.656 MeV above the ground level. According to one calculation, if the state's energy were lower than 7.3 or greater than 7.9 MeV, insufficient carbon would exist to support life; furthermore, to explain the universe's abundance of carbon, the Hoyle state must be further tuned to a value between 7.596 and 7.716 MeV. A similar calculation, focusing on the underlying fundamental constants that give rise to various energy levels, concludes that the strong force must be tuned to a precision of at least 0.5%, and the electromagnetic force to a precision of at least 4%, to prevent either carbon production or oxygen production from dropping significantly.

What's the odds on Jesus, when there are 5 billion copies of the bible out there?
When he was foretold, when Muhammad was not. when he died for us, when Muhammad did not.
When the apostles gave their lives to spread his word. When Muhammad forbade the reading of his word. When the bible states God is outside of time. Says the universe was stretched out. Heaven is not in the heavens but outside the universe. It maintains it's integrity.
Speaks to men in every century and uses a number structure which is impossible to construct. let alone by men two millenniums ago. Something is actively maintaining the universe. keeping it stable.
Report Foinavon June 2, 2017 11:19 PM BST
How much fine tuning would be required to create your god and his heaven?
If he is perfect and the universe isn't then it's bound to be more isn't it?
Therefore the existence of a perfect god is less likely than our universe.
So why do you need to postulate god?
Report Dav_vin03 June 3, 2017 12:35 AM BST

Jun 2, 2017 -- 11:19PM, Foinavon wrote:


How much fine tuning would be required to create your god and his heaven?If he is perfect and the universe isn't then it's bound to be more isn't it?Therefore the existence of a perfect god is less likely than our universe.So why do you need to postulate god?


disagree with point 2. why is it 'bound to be more'? says who?

Report Foinavon June 3, 2017 11:19 AM BST
It's a hypothetical question because no one has ever proved that a creator god exists, and as I don't believe such a god exists, I have to work with the creationist zorro's own definition.
He claims that we are born with sin so are imperfect. We are part of the universe so the universe itself must be imperfect.
He claims the universe was created by a perfect entity which has infinite powers therefore is greater than it's creation.
We have observed that the universe operates according to a number of universal parameters known as the laws of physics. If any of these parameters were significantly different, then the universe would be different.
My contention is that the same must apply to the hypothetical god and being more complex would operate within tighter parameters.
Report Foinavon June 3, 2017 11:38 AM BST
Perhaps another way of putting it would be,
If something is imperfect there is margin for error in accordance with the degree of imperfection.
If something is perfect then there is no margin for error.
Report zorrostrikes June 3, 2017 2:00 PM BST
God is perfect - creation is perfect - God gives us FREEWILL.
Freewill allows us to choose. God has set up a lesson that lasts
an inconsequential amount of time to God. After the lesson. Creation
will be gone.
It'll be God and those that want to be with him. The lesson has been
learned. Choose sin and corruption is the consequence.

Those that cannot learn the lesson will be quarantined, they have immortal souls.
Report Foinavon June 3, 2017 2:07 PM BST
Consistent response, zorro but you haven't answered my question from last night. Plain
Report zorrostrikes June 4, 2017 2:09 AM BST
God's Eternal unlike the universe.
Not a created being.

Centuries ago men argued whether another continent existed(the americas),
Columbus and others argued to get there to find out. Arguing for years.
I'd imagine Foinavon That you'd be one of those back then to say there
was no such lands. Columbus had read his bible and knew it spoke of another
continent.  (Fredric March fan)

"Throughout his life, Columbus also showed a keen interest in the Bible and in Biblical prophecies, often quoting biblical texts in his letters and logs. For example, part of the argument that he submitted to the Spanish Catholic Monarchs when he sought their support for his proposed expedition to reach the Indies by sailing west was based on his reading of the Second Book of Esdras (Ezra): see 2 Esdras 6:42, which he took to mean that the Earth is made of six parts of land to one of water. Towards the end of his life, he produced a Book of Prophecies in which his career as an explorer is interpreted in the light of Christian eschatology and of apocalypticism."(wiki)
Report zorrostrikes June 4, 2017 2:12 AM BST
does America exist? sitting in England in 1500 Ad - the answer was no.
the question itself would be meaningless?

Today it's a certainty.
Report zorrostrikes June 4, 2017 2:14 AM BST
crap - it was 1492? dropped the ball there - read that as 1400 AD.

can i have a pencil eraser sir?
Report Dav_vin03 June 4, 2017 10:56 AM BST

Jun 3, 2017 -- 11:38AM, Foinavon wrote:


Perhaps another way of putting it would be,If something is imperfect there is margin for error in accordance with the degree of imperfection.If something is perfect then there is no margin for error.


yes
but the God of the bible is displayed as the perfect father, more of a relational creator who longs to be in relationship with his creation. God is not his name, its merely his job description.

Report Foinavon June 4, 2017 4:12 PM BST
God's Eternal unlike the universe.
Not a created being.


Claiming to know what you can't possibly know. Perhaps you read it in the bible.
Report zorrostrikes June 4, 2017 11:12 PM BST
so what caused the big Bang?
A lot of physicists are abandoning that theory.

You know next to nothing and are proud of it.
Report Foinavon June 4, 2017 11:18 PM BST
Physicists don't claim to know what they don't know, that is the domain of religion.
Report boxingthefox June 4, 2017 11:20 PM BST

Jun 4, 2017 -- 11:18PM, Foinavon wrote:


Physicists don't claim to know what they don't know, that is the domain of religion.


Post of the year Foinavon.

Report Foinavon June 4, 2017 11:22 PM BST
ty foxy.
Report boxingthefox June 5, 2017 12:11 AM BST
Love
Report zorrostrikes June 5, 2017 8:28 AM BST
You are looking at this as an ant looks at a human being.
An ant's world is not the world of a human being.
and a human's world is not that of GOD.
God is not a subject of TIME, having created the universe,
he created time also.

below are some passages Proving God can move in any direction through time.
The Bible gives time a physical property which even Physicists did not know existed till Einstein's generation.

Jude 25 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

John 9:32
Since the beginning of time, no one has ever heard of anyone giving sight to a person born blind.

Galatians 3:8
Scripture saw ahead of time that God would give his approval to non-Jewish people who have faith. So Scripture announced the Good News to Abraham ahead of time when it said, “Through you all the people of the world will be blessed.”


Ephesians 1:11
God also decided ahead of time to choose us through Christ according to his plan, which makes everything work the way he intends.

isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

1 PETER 1:18
For as much as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who truly was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

John 8:58
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
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