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13 Dec 12
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Could get really interesting this one - next stop the High Court - a cast of forum favourites as well
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/13/sally-bercow-lord-mcalpine
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/13/sally-bercow-lord-mcalpine
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McAlpine demanded £50,000 libel damages and an apology from Bercow after her Twitter post which he claimed linked him with allegations of child sex abuse.
Bercow is a right sort If I were McAlpine, I'd be able to come to some sort of an arrangement with her!!!  |
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She's scary mad.
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This does sounds rather tasty!
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God awful woman... but good on her for standing up for herself.
She has clearly had advice from Carter-Ruck... hence going on with this I mean.. how the phuck is "Why is XZZ trending" libel? It simply is not... bullying can only work to a certian extent.... and if you have deep pockets you can really try and turn the screw... but you will need a strong legal argument to prevent massive egg on face. |
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1000%
Pre-xmas Settlement out of court, no chance "they" will want to go all the way on a loser. |
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Is that really all Bercow said re: "Mcalpine trending on Twitter"? If so i'd imagien she had a bit of a case(she's no doubt been well advised) Though i'd imagine this mentally ill woman would do anything to give her some/more publicity.
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McAlpine's been raking it in from people who never actually named him
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Yup that was the full extent of here tweet... she failed to be bullied... and will win.
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I'd love to see her counter claim and do him
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will she send Pads round...
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Don't like her but I can't see how that is libel.
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Moran gets a two year treatment order for 53k expenses fiddle
Treatment for what? |
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he could end up losing more than 50k in fees
does he really want all the details of how the misunderstanding arose and the details from that book that was promoted in austrailia |
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Still be very surprised if this makes court.
But it would be great fun - I'm guessing Bercow thinks she can afford the 50k if it goes against her, or perhaps the judge would award lesser damages. She will probably be supported by free speech groups. I guess her personal risk is if they do her for costs as well? |
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his costs would be over 100k if she loses, on top of any award, and her own costs
but imo she wont lose, and , imo, he will know that, and will settle for an undisclosed amount apology, |
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I'll go against the prevailing view here and say I still think it likely that his case will succeed if it can be shown that her reference to him and what was going on is established. You don't have to leave a trail of breadcrumbs or be as explicit as people are assuming to lose such a case.
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i dont think he will go to court against anyone, not just her
still, he does have that option |
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Not sure about this really, legally. Morally, well she's made herself look a thoughtless idiot, but I think we knew that anyway.
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one thing for sure,if she does have to pay up her old mans expenses claims on soft furnishings etc will go through the roof.
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Christ I just read her posts, she really is a prize **** isn't she? I actually despise her more than those who directly passed on the (false) allegation. They at least (presumably) believed it, and will pay the price, she must have doubted it (hence the language) but publicised it anyway. What a truly dreadful woman.
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Didn't she close her twitter account for a couple of days? She may think this is punishment enough.
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have you read
The New Machiavelli: The art of politics in business. ??? |
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CH....you still would though....wouldn't you...?
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Very interesting that our Sal is refusing to settle.I think she's on a winner as McA is bound to have a locker full of past misdeeds which he wouldn't want disclosed in court.Nobody gets to his age without having something to hide.I'm quite a bit younger than him and have led a pretty boring life however have got some skeletons i wouldn't want to be aired in public.
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cooey posy, remember me?
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Why is he not suing David Icke, who has made direct allegations and has invited McAlpine to sue him rather than people who have not made direct allegations?
He wouldn't be trying to frighten people to pay up in the way the BBC and ITV did would he? |
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You don't mess with the Icke.
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ridiculous to sue over this - alledgedly - does he need the dough? good luck to the defendant.
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He doesn't nees the dough, true, but I don't think that you want people implying that you are a nonce - unless you defend these sorts of claims some dirt sticks
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Icke didn't name him. He said he was going to name him, which I can't really see is much different from naming him, then wussed out.
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718 i agree. just not sure she said enough to defame him. there was some mild suggestion but no real implication and surely not implicit enough for a court. but who knows
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Icke named him in a book published in 1998 and many times since on his website.
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/75061-what-david-icke-wrote-about-conservative-party-treasurer-lord-alistair-mcalpine-in-the-biggest-secret-in-1998-and-the-time-limit-on-legal-action-against-the-book-is-long-past http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/75509-lord-mcalpine-speaks-of-horrendous-shock-of-bbc-child-sex-allegations-when-they-didnt-name-him |
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http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/75593-hey-tweeters-galore-you-are-not-going-to-let-this-arrogant-mans-intimidation-turn-you-to-jelly-are-you
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Totally agree JB24; read the icke article a few weeks ago and though he might be considered a loonytune by many, surely a man of macalpine's stature wouldn't allow this to be said in a public forum without response, which apparently is the case. As much as i detest Bercow, i think she might be raising a few of icke's issues in her defence..... well looking forward to this develop if the detail goes public though i doubt it.
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Yeah he wasn't a famous paedophile though, was he? And suing Icke would have the Streisand effect. Much wiser to ignore it, like he and everyone else did. When serious media started taking an interest, I can't see how he had any choice.
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In my view he should be suing Icke and not Bercow as Icke has gone much, much further. I find it very curious that he seems to be focusing on apparently easier targets.
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That's generally what people prefer to do! An easy win against a big name gets the point across more effectively. Has anyone ever bothered suing Icke?
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He expected Bercow to roll over and pay up without the need to take it to court, whereas he knows Icke will tell him to feck off.
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