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SqueezeFirmly
23 Nov 12 14:43
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Got this by email from my cousin, who has a close friend in Herts.

It just happened to someone a week or so ago in St. Albans, and it can pretty well now be happening anywhere else in the country.

It works like this: Wednesday a week ago, they had a phone call from someone who said that he was from some outfit called "Express  Couriers" asking if they were going to be home because there was a package for them, and the caller said that the delivery would arrive at their home in roughly an hour.

And sure enough, about an hour later, a Delivery man turned up with a beautiful Basket of flowers and wine. they were very surprised since it did not involve any special occasion or holiday, and they certainly didn't expect anything like it.

Intrigued about who would send them such a gift, they inquired as to who the  sender was.

The deliveryman's reply was, he was only delivering the gift package, But allegedly a card was being sent separately; (the card has never arrived!).

There was also a consignment note with the gift.

He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a £3.00 "delivery charge" as proof that he had actually delivered the package to an adult, And not just left it on the doorstep to just be stolen or taken by anyone.

This sounded logical and they offered to pay him cash.

He then said that the company required the payment to be by credit or debit card only so that everything is properly accounted for.

The husband, who, by this time, was standing beside his wife, pulled out of his wallet his credit/debit card, and 'John', the "delivery man", Asked the husband to swipe the card on the small mobile card machine which had a small screen and keypad where he was also asked to enter The card's PIN and security number.

A receipt was printed out and given to them.

To their surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, £4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines, Particularly in the Midlands area!

It appears that somehow the "mobile credit card machine" which the deliveryman carried was able to duplicate and create a "dummy" card(?) with all their card details, After the husband swiped their card and entered the requested PIN and security number.

Upon finding out the illegal transactions on their card, of course, they immediately notified the bank which issued them the card, and the credit/debit account has been closed.

They also personally went to the Police, where it was confirmed that it is definitely a scam because several households have been similarly hit.

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By:
clarkey
When: 23 Nov 12 15:34
Im not being funny but only idiots will get "stung" by this

I mean,who in their right mind is going to give their chip and pin details to some complete stranger for £3.00 "receipt"?

No wonder this country is struggling,no offense
By:
kenny mann
When: 23 Nov 12 15:52
If the parcel delivery man has not bugared off 20 secs after knocking at the door there's something dodgy going on.
By:
mesmerised
When: 23 Nov 12 15:54
You really would have to be a mug to fall for this, not just for swiping your card into someone machine on your doorstep but to agree to a spontaneous delivery - and then pay for it.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Nov 12 15:59
why didnt the husband tell the courier to bolux while dragging his scrubber wife by the hair inside to interrogate on who she had been slagging hersen off to this time?
By:
Clungehungry
When: 23 Nov 12 16:02
Nonsense, from start to finish. The only scam here is people are stupid enough to pass it on.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Nov 12 16:59
Just another crazy version of some ridiculous (probably American) manufactured story, that insults people's intelligence
(that if said people have any intelligence to insult)!
By:
kenny mann
When: 23 Nov 12 17:08
what's crazy about it?
By:
kenny mann
When: 23 Nov 12 17:09
It happened and people will fall for it so handy to know even though none of us are stupid enough.Laugh
By:
Capt__F
When: 23 Nov 12 17:10
seen the sharpest done by con men
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 23 Nov 12 17:25
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/flowers-wine-credit-card-scam.shtml


While they may be perfectly valid when first launched, a problem with such warning emails is that they may continue to circulate for years and eventually become outdated and redundant. And, as noted, false or misleading information may be added to the messages as they circulate and such additions can significantly erode their use as warnings.

In fact, a new variant of the warning began circulating in early 2012 via email and social media posts. The 2012 variant closely mirrors the information contained in the original 2008 version. However, at the time of writing, I could find no credible police or media reports that suggest that the same scam outlined in the 2008 warning is again occurring in 2012.

Before forwarding such warning messages, it is always wise to check that the information they contain is accurate and up-to-date
By:
everythings gone green
When: 23 Nov 12 17:27
Good old hoax slayer to the rescue. Laugh
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 23 Nov 12 17:31
But you still got the flowers and wine?
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Nov 12 18:05
It didn't happen ever!

How come the OP has used the identical words (other than perhaps place names) as have been circulating for years?

Just type any part of the OP's story into my best buddy's site Google and this is an example of what you will see.
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https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=And+sure+enough%2C+about+an+hour+later%2C+a+Delivery+man+turned+up+with+a+beautiful+Basket+of+flowers+and+wine.+they+were+very+surprised+since+it+did+not+involve+any+special+occasion+or+holiday%2C+and+they+certainly+didn%27t+expect+anything+like+it.++&oq=And+sure+enough%2C+about+an+hour+later%2C+a+Delivery+man+turned+up+with+a+beautiful+Basket+of+flowers+and+wine.+they+were+very+surprised+since+it+did+not+involve+any+special+occasion+or+holiday%2C+and+they+certainly+didn%27t+expect+anything+like+it.++&gs_l=hp.12...21657.21657.0.23745.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.1...1c.2.emYXgenguN4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=afb115db270fa5a3&bpcl=38897761&biw=1440&bih=775

I hope that works as it's a hell of a long link!

If not, like I said, type any paragraph fro the OP's statement and get the answer.
By:
orioles
When: 23 Nov 12 18:10
I first saw this urban myth about ten years ago!

Nonetheless, I've alerted the gatehouse Mischief
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Nov 12 18:22
The OP's cousin was close friend of the guy in Herts, shocking you would think he made this up Cry
By:
toffee87
When: 23 Nov 12 22:23
thing is, whether true or not, some people do fall for things

I overheard a woman in our office say that she is going to ring up a number because she had a text saying that she was owed £3200 for missold PPI and it must be true because they wouldnt send her a text otherwise Crazy
By:
buzzer
When: 23 Nov 12 22:34
Don't they watch the real hustle Grin
By:
SqueezeFirmly
When: 24 Nov 12 00:52
brendanuk1
23 Nov 12 18:22   
The OP's cousin was close friend of the guy in Herts, shocking you would think he made this up


My cousin is a 'she' who lives on the south coast, I would assume that her friend is also a female.
By:
crags
When: 24 Nov 12 01:00
I agree with Sparky.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 24 Nov 12 14:41
No Urban......they did this on the real hustle....


Filled envelope with 2nd books and collected 30 quid admin charge.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 24 Nov 12 14:42
*2nd hand
By:
The Leopard
When: 24 Nov 12 15:43
Should SF ( OP) be put in the stocks and pelted with rotting vegetables...?
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 24 Nov 12 16:01
I think Mr Winkle is embarrassed enough by the whole episode already, Leopard.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 24 Nov 12 20:01
banks are not stupid.

they would have put a quick stop once multile withdrawals were being made.
normally you will have a dailly limit from cash machines.

if you make multi internet / phone purchases they will block t if there is anything suss.
By:
kenny mann
When: 24 Nov 12 20:16
I disagree with Angry Monkey and agree with Capt F.
By:
SqueezeFirmly
When: 24 Nov 12 23:06
I agree with kenny mann.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Nov 12 11:49
you're not as dumb as you look.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 25 Nov 12 12:13
" said that the company required the £3 payment to be by credit or debit card only so that everything is properly accounted for."

can understand several people might get hustled and fall for the £3 payment bit, but to give your pin number and security number just to pay a stranger 3 quid, a pretty elaborate con, and good confidence trick but reckon about 70% of people wouldn't fall for it........still a very profitable scam if they get the other 30%. Excited
By:
rob_dylan
When: 25 Nov 12 12:24
Ha ha, love threads like this.
By:
Huggy
When: 25 Nov 12 15:47
Oh dear this scam happened to me twice last week and once this week.i will be on my guard next time.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 25 Nov 12 15:55
.....and 'John', the "delivery man".....
By:
Aunty Post
When: 25 Nov 12 15:57
I have had very many deliveries here (like anyone else) and never ever got on first name terms with any of them!
By:
SqueezeFirmly
When: 25 Nov 12 18:00
Milkman - Peter
Fuel tanker driver - Eric
Postman - Another Peter
UPS delivery driver - Jim
Facking pest from Anglia Conservatories who calls to tehw hoe village roughly every 3 months - Nimesh
By:
SqueezeFirmly
When: 25 Nov 12 18:00
tehw hoe = the whole
By:
boxingthefox
When: 25 Nov 12 20:10
I agree with tehw hoe Plain
By:
kenny mann
When: 11 Feb 19 20:08
lol
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