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bongo
12 Aug 12 10:20
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Imagine leaving Morocco  ( 1 Olympic bronze medal ) and travelling down the coast of West Africa. These are the countries you will pass through:
Western Sahara - 0 medals
Mauritania - 0 medals
Senegal - 0 medals
Gambia - 0 medals
Guinea-Bissau - 0 medals
Guinea - 0 medals
Sierra Leone - 0 medals
Liberia - 0 medals
Cote D'Ivoire - 0 medals
Ghana - 0 medals
Togo - there's a theme here
Benin - just need to figure it out
Nigeria - population 162m
Cameroon - 0 medals
Equatorial Guinea - 0 medals
Gabon - 1 silver medal - YEEEEES - get in son, and well done to Anthony Obame in the Taekwondo
Congo - 0 medals
DRC - 0 medals
Angola - nothing either
Namibia - 0 medals

What's the back story here? - 1 medal for the whole of West Africa - is there something in the Atlantic waters - is the IOC not as 'inclusive' as they'd like to be - Nigeria especially is a surprise

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By:
morpteh mackem
When: 12 Aug 12 10:22
lack of funding ?
By:
Corky
When: 12 Aug 12 10:31
Too hot.
By:
man of many moods
When: 12 Aug 12 10:31
lack of interest?
By:
everythings gone green
When: 12 Aug 12 10:34
Cameroon are quick on their toes.
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 12 Aug 12 10:40
Long standing aversion to having things around their necks.
By:
Ylime
When: 12 Aug 12 10:43
Lack of nutrition, clean water, corrupt governments, civil war, opression, aids the last thing on their minds is Table Tennis or diving hth
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 10:48
Is a bit shocking that, one imagines that the families with the resources to train their children will also be the families with the resources to get them out of there.
By:
bongo
When: 12 Aug 12 10:56
In the previous 3 Olympiads the region garnered around 5-6 medals, so 2012 is a massive drop off. It's funny you mention corruption Ylime as the only medal winning country ( Gabon ) has a notoriously corrupt Prime Minister with whom I share my surname ( not proud of this ). However he is sports mad, and spends a lot on it ( co-hosted the recent African Nations Cup ). It just shows that talent, enthusiasm and hard work isn't enough usually - money for professional coaching programmes and money for direct payments to athletes matter just as much if not more.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 11:08
money for direct payment to judges can also be an issue in the boxing!
By:
Diamond_Joe_Quimby
When: 12 Aug 12 11:16
lack of funding ?

Laugh
By:
sibaroni
When: 12 Aug 12 11:21
Why is that funny please?
By:
macarony
When: 12 Aug 12 11:30
East Africans can run faster because they needed to run away fron Arab slave traders.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 12 Aug 12 12:49
Several of those countries are good at football and thats where
the real money is,theres only room for one Usain Bolt but hundreds
of footballers can earn mega money.
By:
alun2005
When: 12 Aug 12 13:05
On the plus side at least we are spared the horror of any Flabby MPs tweeting about their success - provided the West African athletes were black of course.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 12 Aug 12 18:52
they're all over here  Wink
By:
Crisp77
When: 12 Aug 12 19:06
I think we were funding around £25m a sport. Their lads are probably lucky to get a tracksuit and trainers bought for them.
By:
bongo
When: 12 Aug 12 20:29
You'd have thought that the region would have held steady with 5-6 medals - almost all the countries have had economic growth ( albeit from a lower base ) and have a growing proportion of young people compared to Europe and North America. At least things can only improve.
The way the UK is going with its ageing population, the day will come when someone aged between 20-30 and not obese is probably a county standard sports player by default. And if you believe this quote in the guardian 'No Olympics host country has ever seen an increase in sports participation after the Games.' the UK will never feel as good ( or healthy ) again as it does right now.
By:
Doctor Feelgood
When: 12 Aug 12 20:32
South Africa - 6
By:
abolo
When: 12 Aug 12 20:47

Aug 12, 2012 -- 10:56AM, bongo wrote:


In the previous 3 Olympiads the region garnered around 5-6 medals, so 2012 is a massive drop off. It's funny you mention corruption Ylime as the only medal winning country ( Gabon ) has a notoriously corrupt Prime Minister with whom I share my surname ( not proud of this ). However he is sports mad, and spends a lot on it ( co-hosted the recent African Nations Cup ). It just shows that talent, enthusiasm and hard work isn't enough usually - money for professional coaching programmes and money for direct payments to athletes matter just as much if not more.


There are just not enough structures and money for this, Obame lives and trains in France for years, he could have never reached this level in Benin.
It applies anyway to all Africa, except South Africa which is a special case, and Ethiopia + Kenya who are traditionally over the lot on long distance running

By:
abolo
When: 12 Aug 12 20:48
Not Benin, Gabon
By:
Pounf
When: 12 Aug 12 21:28
Nigerians too busy scamming people.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 13 Aug 12 01:20
Why would they want to spend money on training for sport when they can buy guns and have a civil war
By:
Paddy Hair
When: 13 Aug 12 02:52
As you know tmp there are medals for shooting, if only there was medals for Investment Opportunities.
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 13 Aug 12 14:01
Recently had an email from Danjuma Sule, one of the sons of major Gen Gumel Danjuma Sule, the late Nigeria's former minister of mines. Basically he said they badly need funding to help with a number of athletics programs for Nigerian youth, but his late father had fixed the sum of $30,000.000.00 in the Central Bank of Nigeria on behalf of the youth sports foundation, but they've lost the whole of the documents as a result of fire, which gutted his house 3 months ago.
The family attorney advised him to liaise with a foreigner who will act as the foreign partner of Intartrade Ventures Ltd and will purport that the money in question is urgently needed overseas for an important project. Then after sorting this and taking a heavy commission (I'm no mug). I'll be transferring the money back to the Nigerian athletics foundation.
HTH
By:
alun2005
When: 13 Aug 12 14:07
Team Lagos are still unassailable where Gold Medals for Advance Fee Fraud,  institutional  c o r r u p t i o n  and general rampant criminality up for grabs, even with such tough competition from within the continent of Africa.

Still, no doubt as with Somalian crime, it's bound to be all Britain's fault because of the legacy of slavery.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 13 Aug 12 19:59
Those african slaves taken back to the U.S.A. seem to have done okay in long run

Those Africans left, their descendants, don't seem to have doe so well

What is there to apologise for, did millions of them a favour imo
By:
Coachbuster
When: 13 Aug 12 20:16
the day will come when someone aged between 20-30 and not obese is probably a county standard sports player by default. And if you believe this quote in the guardian

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i don't think younger people are getting less ,it's just that older people are getting more
By:
bongo
When: 13 Aug 12 22:00
I think you're right coachbuster from an analytic viewpoint. The numbers of UK young seems to be holding - it's the rest of the population that's growing - and the rest of the world too.

I'm still not sure as to why 164 million Nigerians came up with nothing, compared to 4,8,12 years ago. They've been totalled this year. There's been a slight reduction over time in talent going into the US collegiate system, laments in the Lagos newspaper that sports gets literally nothing from gambling and the lottery, and loss of playing fields due to land sales ( building space is at a premium in the city ), so maybe a combination of factors to explain the west african wipeout.

A lot of ( ahem moderated ) criticism in their press that the 2.3 billion N that was spent ( about 9 million GBP ) was spent by officials who spent their time in London back at the hotel enjoying the action on the TV.
By:
bongo
When: 14 Aug 16 12:01
It looks like a total calamity for West Africa again.
Half way through the Olympics and you could drive through every country along the coast from Algeria to Namibia passing through massive population centres like Nigeria and you would find no Olympic medallists to celebrate so far.
By:
mecca
When: 14 Aug 16 16:27
Maybe they haven't been brainwashed into thinking that relatively trivial things like sport...don't really matter.
By:
bongo
When: 18 Aug 16 20:33
Top tip:

Football ( Olympics ) - Saturday at 5pm, Nigeria play Honduras in the bronze medal match. Nigeria are unlikely to win this match because they, ( and all their neighbouring countries ) just do not win Olympic medals in anything close to their share of the world's young population. Therefore lay Nigeria at 1.70 to win in 90 minutes.
By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Aug 16 21:09
I *personally* will fund the Gabon olympic team with my vast betting bank on one condition and one only:

They adopt "The Funky Gabon" by the Goodies for medal ceremonies Wink.
By:
Crisp77
When: 18 Aug 16 21:11
I'd supply the sheets for the party if Togo win a medal.
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