Depression

Depression is a myth. People who feel down feel sorry for themselves, do the same things they usually do and feel depressed. If your life is getting you down then change it!! Don't repeat the same old drab existence that is 'depressing' you.

treid it once, but felt let down by the whole thing.

Think you've been a bit harsh there Cubanpete.Depression is a recognised illness.Millions of people suffer from it over the world.I dont think it's just a case of making a life adjustment and suddenly the world becomes all rosey.

indeed ,it's the way the brain interprtes a given situation

cuban pete on a beach with a beer surrounded by brazillian beauties would be in his element , a depressed soul would still be depressed

Are depressed people teetotal homosexuals in disguise then?

canaryboy is

Have you heard about the AA man? He's heading for a breakdown .

^ I wasn't depressed, but I am now

Eeeyore     05 May 12 10:47 
Have you heard about the AA man? He's heading for a breakdown .
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boggle.....I was just about to post my harrowing story, but seeing yours I think better not, otherwise there
could be a mass suicide on here.

cubanpete is right. depressed people get on my t***

if they were on a beach theyd just complain about it being to hot

'if you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change'

You cannot tell, just by looking at a man, where his shoes are pinching.

this is why you get a lot of drunk depressives 



its because their glass is always half empty

A lot of people who have suffered from depression are not noticeably complainers.

You can never judge a book by it's cover

Too many cooks spoil the broth!

Many things said in jest

Be serious please. The first you will hear about your your (male) friend's depression is when you hear that he jumped in front of a train. It's easy to mock, but if men were a bit better at recognising their weaknesses there would be fewer suicides.

Man who have hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

Always look on the bright side of life

Every cloud has a silver lining

I think that is a wee bit trite. Dementia and other forms of illness can suddenly hit a person, completely out of the blue and one of the most upsetting parts of it are a sense of powerlessness over it when formerly life was in the palm of one's hand.
Life hangs by the slenderest of threads.

so hold me close don't let me go

One of the problems as Cubanpete fails to realise is that clinical depression is not the same as feeling depressed although we use the same word.
I know people with depression and when it hits them they are totally unable to function even to getting out of bed, changing their clothes and washing and doing the normal everyday things we all take for granted. When they are not suffering they can be perfectly normal and as optimistic and happy as the rest of us. But they still live in dread of waking up one morning and finding the "black dog's" got them again.
Having depression is not the same as feeling depressed ie a bit down and sorry for yourself.
Mental illness is as real as physical illness and fortunately although you wouldn't think it after reading some of the idiots on here it is slowly becoming more understood by the general public.
For many sufferers it does seem to have a physical link brought on by the release of certain chemicals or hormones in the body and for some the drugs can have a life changing affect.

Cubanpete thinks Tottenham and Tottenham Court Road are the same kind of place, i wouldn't give too much credit to his words

good post, bix.

"clinical depression is not the same as feeling depressed"

i'd never really thought about it like that.

… and I will second bix's comments. We are all slaves to our physiology ~ in spite of popular twentieth century armchair psycho-babble (but many of you will take credit for more than I think you deserve).

clinical depression is not the same as feeling depressed

Yup.

I have a lot to say on this, but don't have the time at the mo. Will post later.

It's still all a myth. We live in a society where people seem to be happy if they have a condition or label they can attatch to themselves so they aren't to blame for their thoughts, words or actions. Man up and grow a pair is what I say.

I'm sorry, I'm not having that Pete.

I know four people who've committed suicide - two are friend's parents. Both were millionaires (it would obviously have emerged in probate that they weren't, should it be otherwise). In fact one was making money hand over fist when he stepped in front of a car.

I cannot think what possessed them, but obviously they were in a terrible place (mentally). It's not just a case of feeling sorry for yourself.

Witness Gary Speed........

I'm sorry to hear that History Maker.

Money is no guarantee of happiness. Often those with little wealth and/or assets are the happiest. Those with money, often want more and more which leads to them chasing their tails and then wondering what the point to it is.

Sorry, I should probably have elaborated. Money def doesn't 'buy' you happiness but it makes life easier.

The reason that I mentioned the 'millionaire' thing is to emphasize that they were both successful, 'functioning in real life' people. Both self-made. You would never, in a million years, have guessed that either of these guys would top themselves. Well, I wouldn't anyway.

Cubanpete.

I do understand where you are coming from, however: just in case your sense of continuing and enduring control over your own mental health, immunity or invincibility fails to keep you hale and hearty, even in later life, when sudden onset of, for example, manic depression is not unknown, I hope that you will be treated with some compassion and understanding.

it's the mis-use of money - money in it's own right is fine .

just because you're a tr/b/m/illionaire ,why would that stop you from visiting the  local pub or driving a battered car  if that's what you so desire

or going on holiday  to Blackpool ?



sorry ,thats going too far 

Spain is cheap enough

Dont we all suffer from Depression,i do.
Medication?.....My Mother was on Medication and she was walking around like a Zombie most of the time.

No, we dont all suffer from Depression. We may all get depressed at times but it's not the same thing.

if you aint suffered from depression you dont know fack all about it. So all those saying its in the mind, I hope you dont get in, But on second thoughts having it might be what you need to understand wot it's like.

I cant believe this thread has got this far without some clown saying all you need to do is snap out of it.

I'm glad to see that we finally got some sensible posts on this thread. I think that depression is something which can only be fully understood by those who have it or have very close experience of it. This does not include me, I hope.

As stated, there is a huge difference between being clinically depressed and just feeling a bit 'down'.
I would add, though, that there are probably a lot of people out there who claim to have 'depression' when it is just a case of feeling a bit low or morbid.

Depression, whiplash, dyslexia suppose it enables the  weak, dishonest and lazy avoid facing reality.

This thread is getting to be too volatile for my liking!

I was going to post my own experience with a family member but will hang back on that for a minute!

"Depression, whiplash, dyslexia suppose it enables the  weak, dishonest and lazy avoid facing reality".

Depression.....wait for the story please.

Whiplash....my wife was severely affected by this as a result of some girl hammering into the back of her car
when she was stopped at traffic lights.

She saw the stupid girl approaching putting on her make-up!

Dyslexia......my female director was so embarrassed by her condition that I wrote my own pay cheque for her to sign.

I don't see anything remotely humorous, in this subject, to be demeaned by people, with zero experience in life!

BTW I lost my sister to cancer last year following a four year battle against dementia after a stroke where she was close to death!

I suppose there will be a few who think that is a great hoot!

Tomorrow my eldest daughter is running in Sydney for the cause of dementia.

In August my youngest daughter is running, to raise funds for St Leonard's Hospice, where the most beautiful person passed away in July 2001.

Last time she raised almost £1400, for cancer research, which was matched by her employers, with a cheque to St Leonard's for the same amount!

So make fun of that if you will!

auny, some people should be glad they have good health.

I can only assume that clowns like cubanpete and nocash are fishing, in a poor attempt at "humour"

AP, have your daughters got online sponsorship pages anywhere?

Misterbadger, yes they do.

Linzy in Australia has only pulled down $70 which is dire and most of that is mine.

Gemma has over £405.00 in 10 days which is pretty special in my book!

I'm still shocked, over the untimely death of another beautiful person, Ms Claire Squires.

She fell and died, in the London Marathon, and her fund has since rocketed to pushing £1.25 million!

Bless and love that girl!

if you post your daughters' pages AP I'm sure a few on here would contribute

MrB....let me tell you that here are some of the most wonderful people, on here, you could ever know!

A couple of years ago I did just that.

You wouldn't believe the level of generosity, from complete strangers, some of who chucked in several hundreds of pounds!

I put it down to beautiful, generous, compassionate people who were not short of "a few bob"!

Only a couple of weeks later, one of these benefactors was on here, talking about his last £12.00 bank!

The girls and I would be uncomfortable to put up again!

I can only assume that clowns like cubanpete and nocash are fishing, in a poor attempt at "humour"

I doubt it, but maybe. Honestly don't think that those guys are fishing.

I think that either you know people who've had to deal with depression, in which case you don't joke about it...

or you haven't, in which case you don't appreciate the seriousness of it. My 18-year-old self would have been in the "grow up, prima donna" camp. By 21 my attitude had changed a lot.

Sorry, 'don't joke' is wrong, but you don't dismiss it.

I have manic depression (bi-polar as it's fashionably called nowadays) I've had lo lows and very high highs, I've been hospitalised with it and in a very bad way.
I'd advise looking at your lifestyle first.
All the old chestnuts apply...
Sleep.
Eat right.
Exercise or at least fresh air.
Avoid stress.
Easy on the booze and caffeine.
No naughty drugs.
I've been off meds for about five years and back in work for almost a year mainly by being sensible.
If you need help see your GP, don't get fobbed off with a pack of pills, insist on counselling.I'd imagine CBT may help you.
Plato, not Prozac by Dr Lou Marinoff is an excellent book if you can find it.
Good luck and don't have anybody tell you that they know how you feel, they don't only you do.

Quite glad that Cubanpete was made to look the fool with his dumb comments.My worry would be that the original poster never get the answer He/She was looking for.If I knew enough about the Illness I would have done,but I dont.

Creatureinthesky.....I have a friend currently going through all sorts of things(depression is one,along with various addictions)
He has now quite booze(for 6 weeks which is a huge step for him)
But I have noticed he has swapped it for alcohol(he helped me decorate last week and must have got through about 14 cups in 7hrs)
The fact he is off booze and sniff I took as a positive,but has he replaced them with coffee ? Is it that bad if he has?

PS.Good luck to you on the road back to happiness.

MisterBadger     05 May 12 16:49 
I can only assume that clowns like cubanpete and nocash are fishing, in a poor attempt at "humour"

My statement wasn't intended as a fishing trip. We know there are people who genuinely suffer from these conditions. Unfortunately there are many more who simply see them as an excuse for their own failings or personal gain.

On a different point how do you know I work in a circus.

stewardsenquirey 06 May 12 02:09 
Quite glad that Cubanpete was made to look the fool with his dumb comments.My worry would be that the original poster never get the answer He/She was looking for.If I knew enough about the Illness I would have done,but I dont.


Please don't call me a fool, I find it upsetting and its leading me into depression. I don't know what to do.....

tip.....don't drink when on the happy pills, I feel awful today

Sadly some moronic dark age comments on here but you get used to it. I have had bouts of clinical depression. I can assure anyone reading this that it is completely real and not the same as feeling a bit low.

Having said that a minority do choose to exploit depression, e.g. to claim benefits and avoid work - this gives all people with it a bad name. There's plenty you can do that will help with depression:

* Don't dwell on negative thoughts.
* Exercise - running / walks / sports.
* Getting out in the fresh air and sunshine.
* Sleep well.
* Eat well / healthily - vitamin and omega 3 supplements can help.
* Cut out booze, tobacco and recreational drugs.
* Do stuff you enjoy.
* Try to do something that exercises the brain and you can concentrate on.
* Be sociable.

If this doesn't work go and see your GP. Antidepressants normally work but are only part of the solution. If you are offered psychotherapy then take it. There are plenty of good books on depression too. Whatever you do good luck.

stewardsenquirey


Cheers, the reason I mention caffeine is that I was drinking loads of Red Bull and not sleeping enough, sleep is like a bank loan, you have to pay it back at some point.
Another guy I know had a bad manic episode and was fuelling himself with endless cups of coffee.
It's a false energy, but I's only say dangerous if he's constantly missing sleep and rest.

tip.....don't drink when on the happy pills, I feel awful today

Which pills are you on BB.

I was prescribed "Amitriptylene" about 18 months ago to control the pain and discomfort of
Peripheral Neuropathy (which I wouldn't wish on anyone!

I discovered later that they prescribe the same drug for those with depression!

Needless to say I am high as a kite but the vino never bothers me (years of practice I guess)!

citalopram

Don`t get depression confused with being fed up.

Depression is a terrible illness and can target people from all walks of life, from the rich and famous to the poorest in society. It`s caused by a lack of serotin produced by the brain. Anti-depressants produce serotin and can help sufferers. If anybody is suffering from depression, please go and see your doctor and get prescribed the proper medication. Do not suffer silently, please see your doctor.

Don`t get depression confused with being fed up

spot on

Depression is very different from mood swings. Yet both can also be controlled a little better by controlling your blood sugar levels. Decision making and how the brain positively or negatively interprets information and deals with situations are linked to blood sugar levels. Strange but true.

I've suffered for years on & off (as my thread shows)
It's a long hard battle for me .. the tablets can help but i find make you very mongy/ withdrawn from yourself .. which doesn't feel that great at the time .. and have a long term .. not short term effect
You then fall for the trick of thinking you're over it and stop taking the tablets .. 6 months - a year or two maybe go by .. then you start to feel it getting back to you .. start drinking again etc

The lifestyle points ed wolf posts above are spot on (though it doesn't seem they'll help that much at the time you're deeply depressed) also just talking to people can help a great deal (something i struggled to have) as it's a double edged sword - my family just thought i was an awkward bstrd - you will obviously seem very negative to the people you talk to at the time (friends can thinkm badly of you)  so be careful not to depress them too much in the process

I actually haven't taken any tablets for like 7 years as i 'm not keen on them but am seeing a doctor again next week

It's prozac i feel i need though not fluoxedine etc

I'm at probably one of the worst periods of my life & feel i could crack up at any moment .. though if i get through this it could be fantastic

When I feel a bit down. thankfully that's not often, I find succour in Morrissey...

http://youtu.be/SfkvPnjb9hs