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Pokermonster
22 Apr 11 00:55
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I've lost count of the number of times snooker commentators and coaches emphasize the importance of a smooth follow-through, particularly concerning its influence over backspin strokes.

In reality, the follow-through part of a cue action has very little impact on the outcome of any shot.  Anyone disagree?
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Report naydam April 22, 2011 1:00 AM BST
Follow-through should be avoided at all costs. Especially if it is early in the session.
Report Pokermonster April 22, 2011 1:21 AM BST
Good morning Naydam.  Hope you are well, sir.

These snooker discussion threads are not quite so popular as they once were; I end up chatting to myself half the time. Happy
Report munch man April 22, 2011 3:40 AM BST
pokermonster, are you by any chance cj from eggheads?  no offence meant if you're not.
Report Pokermonster April 22, 2011 11:46 AM BST
No, I'm not, Munch.  None taken.
Report PokerDane April 22, 2011 3:20 PM BST
Nothing to do with follow-through, but were you aware that the snooker baize company, Strachan (seen on the side of the tables at the world championships) actually pronounce their name "strawn."
Report Nilsson Schmilsson April 22, 2011 3:52 PM BST
they emphasize the follow through to try and stop you messing up the shot

if you follow through correctly, ie dont get up early or throw your shoulder at it the shot has more chance of being right
Report mrbadger April 22, 2011 4:15 PM BST
maybe you should try posting them on the snooker forum PM? just an idea...
Report PokerDane April 22, 2011 4:23 PM BST
I did post something similar on the snooker forum some time ago, Mr Badger, but the traffic over there is so slow it makes for a very stilted debate.
Report PokerDane April 22, 2011 4:32 PM BST
However, I will give the topspin thread another outing over there just to see the response.

Maybe some of the regulars will have already seen it, maybe not.
Report FatherMaguire April 24, 2011 12:17 PM BST
I'm not particularly good at snooker, but I find when playing with backspin, i have a tendency to to pull the object ball left when playing badly - if I remember to follow through straight, and over-emphasise it it does tend to correct my alignment

that down the cushion information was v interesting - will prob get on a table this week, so will try out the theory of catching cushion slightly before ball
Report Pokermonster April 24, 2011 2:17 PM BST
Glad you found it interesting, FM.

Please remember it really is just a tiny fraction you need to catch the cushion before the object ball.
Report Pokermonster April 24, 2011 2:22 PM BST
There's a famous trickshot (ususally called THE IMPOSSIBLE CUT) which highlights this effect very nicely.

A player can place the cueball on the yellow spot and a red tight on the rail directly behind the black spot.  Believe it or not, it is possible to clip the red backwards along the cushion into the LEFT hand black pocket (as you would look at the table on a television screen).

This impressive feat is only achievable with lots of right hand side and by hitting the cushion before the red.  In effect, the cueball clips the red along the rail on its way back to baulk.
Report tuckyboy April 25, 2011 12:13 PM BST
As stated above pokermonster, I don't suppose what you do with the cue after you have connected with the white makes much difference, but it is surely all about the timing of the shot, i.e you want to be hitting the white during your stroke, rather than at its end, so that you can maintain better control of the shot.
Report tuckyboy April 25, 2011 12:14 PM BST
And that Impossible cut shot is easy, if you know what you're doing.
Report Pokermonster May 15, 2011 4:02 PM BST
That's right, Tucky.

The follow-through plays no part in any action applied to the cueball.  It is only advisable to have a smooth follow-through because it is easier than arresting one's cue action before its natural conclusion.  That is all.

I sometimes play a trickshot/wager whereby I screw the white two lengths of the table with no follow-through whatsoever.  This can be achieved by careful measurement of the backswing and timing it so your backhand slams into the side of the table as tip meets cueball.
Report tuckyboy May 15, 2011 4:31 PM BST
I am sure that the monetary reward is more than adequate compensation for the broken hand.
Report wit-ham May 16, 2011 1:33 PM BST
PM

at 0.35 of this commercial is it topspin or follow throw being applied to the cueball please.
Report wit-ham May 16, 2011 1:33 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyT7ymfiJFg
Report grendel May 16, 2011 2:02 PM BST
The follow through is important as the cue tip should still be accelerating on contact with the cue ball.  The sooner your cue tip starts to decelerate after the contact is what's described as 'good timing'.  You get a more powerful shot this way, a bit like a boxer gets more power through following through his punch.
Report Pokermonster May 16, 2011 6:59 PM BST
Hello WH.

No idea, sir, I was looking at her tits.  Sorry.
Report UTI May 16, 2011 7:16 PM BST
I'm gonna have a go at bullsh1tting myself to an answer.

In cricket, golf and in darts and in most sports where you can have a follow through I think it is good to have a smooth natural follow through.  You strike through the ball in one motion, it is kind of a psychological thing - in cricket when you get it right you don't change your position just standing there like a tw@t holding the position and though this of course makes no difference as you've already hit the ball, it is kind of a state of mind that begins before you strike the ball.  unfortunately if you hold it too long and you don't remember to return to the real world you might miss out on valuable runs, give away a foul as a ball hits your cue or just look like a tw@t overstaying his welcome at the oche.
Report Pokermonster October 27, 2012 3:56 PM BST
Fair points, UTI.
Report Doctor Feelgood October 28, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
It's a difficult concept for me to understand. What I mean is how does what you do after hitting the cue ball affect what happens?
Report Nilsson Schmilsson October 28, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
watch dennis taylor from yesterdays seniors to see what we mean
Report Pokermonster May 4, 2015 3:08 PM BST
Steve Davis talked about this subject at the break a little earlier.  For the first time ever a commentator actually stated it correctly, they usually claim something like "a smooth cue action is crucial" for one particular shot or another.  The follow-through part of a cue action has no effect on the cueball, once it's gone it's gone, and it goes very quickly.
Report Burton-Brewers May 4, 2015 3:12 PM BST
I nearly followed through this morning, all that Bolly I quaffed on Saturday
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