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mr winkle
26 Oct 10 13:38
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Can't see any of the the east end. or Newham. without zooming in, too many flags.

Nice colours though. 

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http://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/26083797/London_Murders_-_very_colourful_map
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Report man of many moods October 26, 2010 1:47 PM BST
wrong link mr wrinkle
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 2:13 PM BST
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http://www.murdermap.co.uk/murder-map.asp

Better ?
Report brendanuk1 October 26, 2010 2:14 PM BST
so you post same link on chit chat weeks after politics forum? Cry
Report man of many moods October 26, 2010 2:20 PM BST
Interesting.

London is definitely somewhere I wouldn't want to live. There doesn't seem to be any part of it that's safe.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:25 PM BST
it is probably the safest 8m plus city in the world.
Report Coachbuster October 26, 2010 2:26 PM BST
i wish i could afford to live there
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 2:29 PM BST
brendanuk1  26 Oct 10 14:14   
so you post same link on chit chat weeks after politics forum?
 


It's on here, not posted by me, but buried in a thread not about murder in London.
Report Ukmalllia October 26, 2010 2:29 PM BST
I visit from time to time, 2 hours by train but as much as I like Central London Im always glad at the end of the day to be getting out and well away. Would hate to live there. Would not even feel safe living in the nicer parts, Kensington etc.The further away you get from central London the more you begin to see what a disaster Labour created and areas LITERALLY more dangerous than Kabul, Islamabad or Baghdad. I feel sorry for the people who have to live there to be honest.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:31 PM BST
areas LITERALLY more dangerous than Kabul, Islamabad or Baghdad

wow, how did you manage to escape unscathed
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 2:32 PM BST
The Magic Flea   26 Oct 10 14:25   
it is probably the safest 8m plus city in the world.


I'm sure that cheers everybody up who lives there but wants to get out.
Report Ukmalllia October 26, 2010 2:35 PM BST
Had a few ex SAS guards with me TMF. Always helps to have such friends.
Report Ken Masters October 26, 2010 2:37 PM BST
FFS there are some saps on here.
Report horseman October 26, 2010 2:43 PM BST
Apart from the weathly do any white brits actually live in the centre of London or say a 5/10 mile radius? Always looks full of beggars,darkies,pimps and africans when i've been there.
Report UTI October 26, 2010 2:44 PM BST
London's alright imo.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:48 PM BST
about 55% of greater london in white british. I would imagine that about 35% would be Non-white and 15% white non-british
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:50 PM BST
ooops that should be 10% not 15%
Report SelkirkAgain October 26, 2010 2:50 PM BST
And have a guess which percentage is committing the most crimes.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:51 PM BST
the percentage that lives in the most deprived areas
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:51 PM BST
guess what percentage of Glasgow's population commits most crimes
Report a bitofinterest October 26, 2010 2:53 PM BST
i go there every day armed only with a hi vis and a rolled up metro and yet im fine,just fine
Report SelkirkAgain October 26, 2010 2:55 PM BST
The Magic Flea Joined: 27 Apr 07
Replies: 9354 26 Oct 10 14:51 
the percentage that lives in the most deprived areas



Be still your bleeding heart.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 2:56 PM BST
I find the rolled up evening standard to be more efficient. Especially on wednesdays when they have the property supplement
Report a bitofinterest October 26, 2010 2:57 PM BST
the standard does pack a pretty powerful punch
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 3:17 PM BST
The Magic Flea 26 Oct 10 14:51   
the percentage that lives in the most deprived areas


Why move there if it's deprived ?

Why not go to Chester, Winchester or Portsmouth, much nicver places.
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 3:22 PM BST
I'm sure that cheers everybody up who lives there but wants to get out.

Why move there if it's deprived ?

Why not go to Chester, Winchester or Portsmouth, much nicver places


?? a bit of a contadiction. Why to they not get out?
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 3:56 PM BST
Are you thick ?

Minimum wage earners who have trouble living on their wages, never mind saving for a deposit on a house elsewhere.

The elderly, who are stuck there in council houses (until the tories kick them out)

Do you think anybody with a few quid would stay there by choice ?
Report Ken Masters October 26, 2010 4:00 PM BST
So you don't want the poor areas filling up with immigrants but as soon as another immigrant gets a nice house in Notting Hill you're up in arms about that too. Make your mind up, imo.
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 4:16 PM BST
Tell why an immigrant should get a house on benefits that costs over 2 grand a week.

The much reported somalian family costing £2k a week, who still owes his previous landlord £7k.

The afghani woman with 7 kids in a house costing OVER £2k a week, since 2008, when it was reported, and was going to be acted upon, but she's still in there now.

There were cheaper properties in the same road in Acton.
Report UTI October 26, 2010 4:22 PM BST
Norfolk's even cheaper than Acton, send 'em there.
Report mr winkle October 26, 2010 4:25 PM BST
Nothing to rent in this village, all privately owned and occupied.
Report treble October 26, 2010 6:08 PM BST
I feel quite pleased that there has not been one murder in my area Happy
Report BonVivvy October 26, 2010 6:47 PM BST
Would it make me a vile racist pig if I was to ask if "black" crime (afro carib/african etc) was at similair levels per rata of % population in most countries with a sizeable population of black people?

Im wondering if say Detroit or Washington has a similair % of black crime to say london/Paris/Birmingham/Amsterdam or it's more of a feuding uk thing where we've simply let too many in that semi poverty is assured and has the crime knock on effect?
Report The Magic Flea October 26, 2010 6:52 PM BST
I would say it is much higher in Amsterdam and Paris. Mostly due to they fact that they are treated much worse than in London
Report Coachbuster October 26, 2010 11:06 PM BST
Londons only bad in the scummy areas , much like any other city
Report Stretch Armstrong October 26, 2010 11:09 PM BST
The trouble is coachbuster the bad areas are all over and very near to the nice areas
Report Coachbuster October 26, 2010 11:14 PM BST
they seem to be closing in i guess Laugh
Report a bitofinterest October 26, 2010 11:23 PM BST
as long as the bad guys steer clear of my bedsit im as happy as larry winkle Plain
Report sparkmaster. October 26, 2010 11:29 PM BST
There's some work gone onto that website. However, having conducted a brief and very unscientific review of the first ten from the left you've little to fear unless you're gay, have a mental ex, play sunday league football, or are in the habit of taking rather big risks you're likely to be safe enough!
Report mr winkle October 27, 2010 1:17 AM BST
errrr...... the east end is on the right.
Report sparkmaster. October 27, 2010 1:21 AM BST
Well duh!
Report mr winkle October 27, 2010 1:38 AM BST
You have to zoom in to spot Newham, too many flags on there.
Report sparkmaster. October 27, 2010 1:42 AM BST
I did! Seemed to be mostly gang stuff, were there any white victims?
Report mr winkle October 27, 2010 1:47 AM BST
Probably, I haven't looked.
Report a bitofinterest October 27, 2010 1:53 AM BST
Laugh Plain
Report mr winkle October 29, 2010 9:46 PM BST
Cool
Report mr winkle November 3, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
no near misses on the map

see the Newham thread
Report huskydog November 3, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
I'll take a flying guess that a vastly disproportionate number of these murders were committed by blacks, no more impoverished than your typical White or Asian youths living in the same areas.

When are we going to face up to racial reality and recognise that blacks have an undoubted propensity to commit acts of violence far in excess than their absolute numbers would suggest possible??[:o]
Report UTI November 3, 2010 5:11 PM GMT
HIHM
Report mr winkle November 3, 2010 5:17 PM GMT
huskydog, no lefty on here will admit it.

One third of Newhams 240,000 population are indigenous white.

Ask the lefties to see if one third of the murders are committed by whites on the map in Newham.

They won't even bother looking as they know the truth.

But they'll still tell you that everything's okay with immigration
Report mr winkle November 11, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
Another pretty flag to add to Newham
Report sparkmaster. November 11, 2010 12:25 AM GMT
I'd like to hear from these lefty's too! Who are they? This must have happened before if you're so confident about this!
Report sparkmaster. November 11, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
Or they commit more crimes, and are more likely to get convicted in court.
Report themightymac November 11, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
If your stats are right then it`s probably because more AA`s are victims of poverty.
Report sparkmaster. November 11, 2010 1:03 AM GMT
I suspect you're right reg.

I'm sure I've mentioned this before but when I did my university thesis on crime distribution some 20 years ago, the crime figures by income bracked found that the crime rates (by band) for whites as opposed to non-whites was some way higher. This might sound shocking but if you imagine a sh1tty tower block with recent immigrants keen to make their way and the least successful members of the ahem, indegenous population, it's entirely understandable. The street I live in now is much the same, mostly asian people investing in property, a few good old stoke families, and some social housing. Not sure what band I fall into!

That said, gang culture is a nasty thing, and I doubt that is so much the case today. Successive governments, from both sides of the political arena, have been so scared of appearing racist, they've effectively created an environment where non-white criminals are more likely to get away with crime. If you look at the map, and the victims, you can also see that the people most let down by this are non-whites.
Report mr winkle November 12, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
Plain
Report call me a taxi November 12, 2014 11:24 PM GMT
That said, gang culture is a nasty thing, and I doubt that is so much the case today. Successive governments, from both sides of the political arena, have been so scared of appearing racist, they've effectively created an environment where non-white criminals are more likely to get away with crime.

Rotherham, in a nutshell.
Report Clungehungry November 12, 2014 11:34 PM GMT
It is colourful, if you excuse the pun, in that the large majority of the victims are non-white. makes you wonder why some white people from London are so scared.
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