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29 Jun 10 15:41
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UTI
When: 29 Jun 10 15:43
Jehova jehova jehova.
By:
General Midwinter
When: 29 Jun 10 15:54
I've honestly given up answering my door unless I know I have a package arriving.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 29 Jun 10 16:01
let's go to the stoning
By:
Capt__F
When: 29 Jun 10 16:12
need Avon for nap hand
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 30 Jun 10 03:54
Ask them to explain John 20:28? They won't come again.
By:
Veck
When: 30 Jun 10 04:42
John 20:28

"My Lord and my God"

Problem:

Since Jesus is addressed by Thomas as "My Lord and My God", this passage is considered by trinitarians to prove the "deity of Christ" - that he is "God the Son."

Solution:
Thomas' confession is an acknowledgment that Jesus had indeed risen from the dead, but it is not a declaration that Jesus is "God the Son". Thomas, a Jew, used a mode of expression common to the Old Testament in which accredited representatives of God are referred to as "God". Angels are called "God" in the following passages: Gen. 16:7 cf. vs. 13; 22:8, 11, 15 cf. vs. 16; Exod. 23:20, 21. Moses is referred to as a "god" to Pharaoh. (Exod. 7:1, "god" is translated from the Heb. "elohim"). "Elohim" translated "God" can refer to the judges of Israel as in Psa. 82:1, 6 cf. John 10:34. It is also translated "judges" in Exod. 21:6; 22:8, 9 and "gods" (mg. "judges") in Exod. 22:28.

Earlier in this chapter, Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God." (vs. 17). Since Jesus was to ascend to his God, then clearly he was not himself "Very God".
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 30 Jun 10 16:31
[b]Solution:
Thomas' confession is an acknowledgment that Jesus had indeed risen from the dead, but it is not a declaration that Jesus is "God the Son". Thomas, a Jew, used a mode of expression common to the Old Testament in which accredited representatives of God are referred to as "God". Angels are called "God" in the following passages: Gen. 16:7 cf. vs. 13; 22:8, 11, 15 cf. vs. 16; Exod. 23:20, 21.



Not in my Bible. You are probably using the New World Translation . This contains numerous mistaken translations.


Moses is referred to as a "god" to Pharaoh.


Say's Pharaoh is like God .Not God.




(Exod. 7:1, "god" is translated from the Heb. "elohim"). "Elohim" translated "God" can refer to the judges of Israel as in Psa. 82:1, 6 cf. John 10:34. It is also translated "judges" in Exod. 21:6; 22:8, 9 and "gods" (mg. "judges") in Exod. 22:28.



Yes in a sense they were gods because they had godlike powers. They were God's Representatives on earth, but Thomas calls Jesus my Lord and my God.Ho Theos in the greek. The God.

Earlier in this chapter, Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God." (vs. 17). Since Jesus was to ascend to his God, then clearly he was not himself "Very God".[/b]



Jesus was speaking as a man when he said this.So yes his Father was his God.
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 30 Jun 10 19:15
Can't you ask the gas company to connect the Jehovas Witnesses to the main?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 30 Jun 17 13:26
Have you considered joining the Witness Protection Scheme?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 02 Jul 17 18:57
call the lawyers...

who do you say i am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Jesus was a man - limited as a man on earth. He was sinless and a sacrifice for sins. He performed miracles and spoke, but his job was to be the sacrificial lamb of God.
When he died, he returned to the Godhead(trinity) his fullness restored. He is now God. No one took his life, he gave it. Through him all things were made. He is God made manifest.

The Jehovah's (1870) have tampered with the bible. They are screwed.
the Mormons (1830) have tampered with the bible. They are screwed.
the Mohammedans (630) have tampered with the bible. They are screwed.
the satanists have tampered with the bible.(1900) they are screwed.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 02 Jul 17 19:00
too busy having a blood transfusion to answer.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 02 Jul 17 19:07
tooo busy giving blood to answer..
By:
workrider
When: 02 Jul 17 21:12
Had two of them call the other week,they said we are Jehovas Witness's ,I replied, sorry I never even saw the accident.
By:
Foinavon
When: 02 Jul 17 22:12
What do you get when you cross a JW with a hell's angel?

Someone who knocks on your door and tells you to feck off.

The old ones are the best. I'll get me coat.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 03 Jul 17 01:27
they are very polite, but why choose a tampered bible?

what's that about? it's like buying a maths exercise book and
you look at the back for answers to see if you did the problems
correctly and the pages are gone.

they redact the words... then they redact Jesus
no other historical man is redacted.
Hitler is real, Genghis Khan is real, Mohammad is real, Alexander.
but Jesus we have  issues with that dude... he ain't real.

soon, he's gonna be the realest MF in existence. propa gangsta real.
By:
workrider
When: 03 Jul 17 16:11
Honesty, two of them turned up on my doorstep this morning as I was finishing breakfast,really kind old dears, with a invite to attend a campaign they are starting to get people interested in their Religion. Fete or what!
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