60s music compared to todays music

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Gar(b)age,(c)rap,(c)hip) (s)hop, and anything else like it, is not music.

hope that helps.

Dylan was the first rapper in 1965 - and that was music.

Some brilliant rap music, though I'm generally not a fan.

Garage and House and hip hop and all that I can't stand it, but of course it is music.  Some of these kids are fanatical about it - there must be something in it.

60s the best ever imo.

Wasnt 60s music mainly 'underground' anyway? Same as if you actually look for bands these days rather than the pap fed on the radio/telly, you will find excellent stuff out there.

i am sure there was as much **** produced back in the 60s after they realised the 'fame' that was possible, as there is today.

get to any tiny club and once in a blue moon there will be a gem of a band playing to 3 people and a duck.

The 60s music was and is beyond comparison.

I always listen to Sounds of the 60s Brian Mathew on the net Iplayer. Brings back many fond memories.
btw did you know Crispian St Peter died recently?

Major advantage in the 60s - somebody else hadn't already written all the good tunes. Remarkable that anything breathtaking can be made today given that it's harder and harder to surprise and everyone can afford to do it. Like classical music. When Haydn toured The Creation, people climbed over each other to get seats, there were broken legs everywhere. Today, nobody's written anything of any significance to anyone in classical music for a long time. You can't do Magic Flute or Gimme Shelter twice. Harder today for all concerned, I'd say.

No one liked Van Gogh's stuff, but years later.....

Hope for Slowcut  yet

Agree, this riff was sitting around waiting to be found, Cream got there first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPJL96fbV5Q

About 70% of my CD collection is from the 60's.....

....and most of 'em are in the dead section now.

(didn't know Crispian St Peters had died, got one of his singles, You Were On My Mind)

Also had a hit with The Pied Piper.
Career as good as finished when he arrogantly claimed he was bigger and better than the Beatles.

he was of course joking about that, the 2 big hits he had was that rare thing-a remake better than the original,made some good stuff besides and im a bit of a fan but must admit i didnt know he had died

What he said was a joke, but unfortunately for him, he wasn't joking!

no he must of being joking,otherwise the bloke was out of his mind,i admit i read that recently splicer but maybe you are old enough to remember it at the time?i cant believe he really meant it but he left "the scene" very quickly,was he cos he wanted to do his own stuff not remakes?

depends on how old you are

hi drag,me im not that old,im thinking did it make a big splash when he said it?i just like to get a feel for the times you see

some great memories of the 60's but there was some  cringeworthy stuff too. Difficult to generalise when you have  the Small Faces Tin Soldier and also Esther & Abi Ofarim's  Cinderella Rockerfella (guess which went to number one!)and for every Tiptoe through the tulips you have an Eve of destruction

I realise this is an old codgers thread, but I am nearly 50 and you lot need to listen to some new music.

Open your minds and your ears, try listening to a radio station that plays music post 1990 or start messing around on the u-tube and move from something you know and feel safe with to something you don't.

I reckon you might change your mind.

Listen to Brian Matthews on a sat morning for your answer, dire dated samey shockfest with a few exceptions.

Someone posted a question about a radio that show that used a Jimi Hendrix song they wanted the title of. I listened to it and it was Third Stone From the Sun. But the point is, what ever the station (I think it was Radio 6) and the show, the music I heard on that was bloody good (and new), so yes Jack you have a point.

utter rubbish clarkson,the usual great hits from the 60s,some wonderful unknown tracks,lots of information which i always find intresting but because the show plays all 60s stuff we will also hear some real horrors--if you dont like 60s dont listen-simples

boggle's sort of right.  There was a huge void to be filled - stuff never done before.  Today's bunch have to recycle or think outside the orbit of the junk.  And many of them do.  And I have to say some of today's music is far more "cerebral"/interesting than in the 60s.  Though the 60s got much of the the basic-urge music (apart from what the censors stopped - which became much of later output as dodgy standards disintegrated).  Thank god for (some) new music.

sound to me like you'd all love tom petty's buried treasure shows

http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31476&sid=70b18084515505d1ca2c1dd2f9cc731e&start=50

can dowload them from here or listen to 3 tracks from each show exclusively at

www.tompettyisgod.co.uk

I do like Tom Petty's stuff a great deal already but suspect he's reached the end of his creative road.

tom petty is the host of the show, very very rarely does he play his own stuff

good old fashioned rock n roll with some blues and harder stuff thrown in

this is episode 22 of season 3


1 Buried Treasure Theme Song
2 Ramblin%u2019 Gamblin%u2019 Man %u2013 Bob Seger System
3 Make Me Yours %u2013 Bettye Swann
4 In My Own Time %u2013 The Bee Gees
5 No Matter What %u2013 Badfinger
6 Hold On %u2013 The Rascals
7 Don%u2019t Fade On Me %u2013 Then There Were Two
8 Gypsy Eyes %u2013 Jimi Hendrx Experience
9 Don%u2019t Take Your Guns To Town %u2013 Johnny Cash
10 Gunslinger %u2013 Mink DeVille
11 Fools Rush In %u2013 Ricky Nelson
12 Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere %u2013 Neil Young With Crazy Horse
13 Dear Lady Twist %u2013 Gary U.S. Bonds
14 Wham! %u2013 Lonnie Mack
15 Treat Her Right %u2013 Otis Redding
16 Flight 505 %u2013 The Rolling Stones
17 Mean Woman Blues %u2013 Roy Orbison
18 Since You%u2019ve Been Gone (Sweet Sweet Baby)) %u2013 Aretha Franklin
19 Shake Your Hips %u2013 Slim Harpo
20 Farther Up The Road %u2013 Bobby %u201CBlue%u201D Bland
21 Mechanical World %u2013 Spirit

Too much black **** passing for music now, no offence if you are a producer of black **** music.

wow great stuff..spirit cool

much 2 fat butt a little 2 small..12 dreams.top5 ever man

even nilssons gets a few plays in season 4

long

60's for influence, 90's for product. I expect to be in a very small majority here, but frankly I don't care!

I'm fairly certain I care even less.  But I try to seem interested just to encourage the others.

In the 60s the music varied from Soul, Motown, ballads, psychadelia, folk, rock.

What have you got now-(C)Rap, sampling, 3 chord repetative dance music and NO innovation. Every Black Eyed Fleas record sounds the same. And anyone who thinks Dizee Rascal is talented should be put in the middle of the crowd in Joburg and Vavazulued to death.

In my time on this forum I have enjoyed the many musical discussions so thanks for that.

Slicer, with the greatest of respect, whatutalkinabout? As said below, when you were young and going out in the 60s, did you go to all the 'obvious' joints or seek out the 'underground' (whatever that means) stuff? You cannot sit there as a fifty-odd year old and moan that the music you listen to from your armchair on National |Radio is crap. These days there are millions of digital stations out there, some playing some quite bizarre and tragic stuff, but there are gems.

The situtations do not compare - the 'kids' go out to the tiny clubs as much as they ever did, and most who will be posting on this wretched forum in twenty years will think the same as you about their kids music.

Incidentally, I have found myself turning down the car radio these days, therefore turning into my Dad.

As said below...

That's the trouble with this 'oldest first'/'newest first' lark.
It makes phrases like that look like nonsense as there is nothing below.

What's that I hear, sirens? THE TURKS!

DML- sit here as a 50 year old - long time ago! But I'm glad I'm not there again.
You are correct in that times have changed and the kids must find there  own sounds.

I never went to "underground" clubs. I started with Al Martino, The Vicounts (who could forget the classic Who Put The Bomp, Johnny Ray) etc.Although Motown sometimes now sounds a bit dated, if I was to be truthful, I think that was my all time fave style of music. But each to his own. However although the technology and production techniques have improved, its my opinion that the "music" hasn't. Talking over music tracks is not talent in my opinion.

50s and 60s music the best imo.
Also noticed St Peters died. Here he is in an old
video where they end up having a right rave up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_JsBU8o-ok&feature=related

another go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_JsBU8o-ok&feature=related

i have seen the stones,deep purple,ac/dc.dylan.def leppard.iron maiden.quo.stiff little fingers.generation x(worst concert ever).rory gallaher(possibly best)dr feelgood.eagles.thin lizzy.dylan.the skids.big country.olivia newton john,the undertones,sex pistols.iron maiden.eurythmics.steve forbett.blues traveller.sham 69.proclaimers.uriah heep.toto.boston.u2.simpleminds.tom petty.horslips and a lot more i cant think of any band i would go and see live now.

^^^^ That was one busy weekend

I'm 51 years old and been listening to music since the early 70's. Obviously i'm aware of music earlier than that too.

I have to say that the best of today's music is certainly comparable with the better earlier stuff. The trouble is all the people i pay to see and listen to the music of these days are NEVER on TV or radio!

The biggest downside of music today is that appearance is far, far more important now, in terms of getting a recording contract, which is a bit ridiculous for an aural art form.

More positively, such a contract is no longer necessary for someone to get their music heard by lots of people. Publishing, and recording being so much cheaper means there are vastly more artists out there. Take any chart from the 60s and as well as one or two immortal classics (which of cours are the ones we remember), there is also a tremendous amount of cheesey nonsense and novelty records.

Rory Gallagher - underrated for sure.  One of the few for whom dying was not a good career move.

But there were some marvellous novelty records.

Charlie Drake, Benny Hill, Peter Sellers to name but a few. And there couldn't have been any as cheesey as Leona Lewis, innit!

love that pied piper toon,look how happy people seemed back in the day

slicer i'll have to try charlie drake not done that yet, but i do a very good ernie and goodness gracious me and have even done bernard bresslaw on one occassion
am looking up my boomarang as i type

think he hits the flying doctor wits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYmk9Qb9Dc

here you go tel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWjTmXT58nk

this is better than any dizzy rascal

At least it wasnt the toothbrush song!

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The 60s music was and is beyond comparison.

I always listen to Sounds of the 60s Brian Mathew on the net Iplayer. Brings back many fond memories.
btw did you know Crispian St Peter died recently?


No, I only found out today.

Good to see mr winkle back.

Thanks for mentioning the Brian Matthews show. I didn't know about it but have bookmarked it now.

My wife and I used to spend Sunday evenings listening to Mike Sweeney on Capital Gold Radio.
2 hours of 60s music followed by 2 hours of 50s. Superb.

Everything was better in the 60's.
Except for the things that weren't.

60s music like that of the 50s 70s 80s 90s was progressive, but todays music seems to be stuck in a rut. But that’s just the opinion of 47 year old what would I know about the youth of today.

90% of the music I own or play is from the 60s and early 70s.

I also have a fair bit of classical stuff which is better than any hip hop rubbish etc.

the boring answer is there is good and bad in every era .

i listen to a lot of 60s and listen to a fair bit from this last decade and would prefer 60s music  if pushed into a corner , it's interesting that most of the bands i see live who do covers tend to raid the 60s and 70s cookies jar as well as a lot of stuff from recently .

most 60s i see played tends to be from the Stones and the Who

60s music was on a different level to anything before or since.

I'd rate them 60s, then 70s, then 80s, then 50s,

but 90s, noughties, and 10 are hard to split - they all sound equally sh1te. Overproduced, bland, corporate sh1te.
We live in the era of the cover version and sample/mix/mashup - that says it all.

I'd go 60s, 70s, 50s, 80s.

90s was ok in parts, Nirvana especially good.

A good few cover versions in the 60s, some of which I'm still learning about.

The Bachelors were rogues at it.

60s by a country mile 70s bit drab 80s some great band but drab too 90s on the decline 2000+ RIP

GOTTA SEE JANE - R D Taylor.... 1967 HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZJnc4_C8A

a song you haven't heard for years.

Love the rise in tempo at 0.59

for me

80s
70s
90s
00s
60s Small faces,Rolling stones and Who all brilliant .
50s
10s Agreed most is shyte

in that order ,not overly keen on early 60s or 50s - ok though

not sure what was around in 20s and 30s -

40s i guess was Vera Lynn for the most part

Gertrude Lawrence in the 20s and Al Jolson in the 30s.

80s for me was total dross with the 90s and 00s not much better.
10s okayish with the 70s good but the 60s by a country mile the best decade.
Obviously some exceptions to the rule.

Coachbuster

not sure what was around in 20s and 30s -
40s i guess was Vera Lynn for the most part

Kenny Mann will enlighten us soon.

There I told you. He was posting as I was typing.

too slow old man

There is simply no match -- not before nor since -- for the music of the 60's, but there were some crappy songs as well it wasn't all brilliant.  I think that era - late 50's and the 60's defined rock music. But still some very good music today, although 60's for me.

There's got to be a limit to the number of catchy tunes that can be composed.

Surely we must come to a point when they've simply used them all up?

Oasis proved that Dr C.

^ I'm pretty sure that there's going to be many different ways to be creative in the future.

Don't think they will ever run out of catchy tunes.....