Immigrants and dependants....

dependants cannot claim benefits. hence the term "dependant"

Is that right magic flea? If so what's you response Englandaway.

Come on lets get this sh.it going

dependants are for example children -you can claim various benefits

So Magic Flea is wrong? dependants CAN claim benefits? come on flea, lets be having you

I believe that afetr a short period they are entitled to Income Support and Housing Benefit.

they come here on a visa and cannot claim anything. as for children, yes they can claim for them, but they are here working and paying their taxes

they come here on a visa and cannot claim anything

Healthcare?

can you claim healthcare?

how long is this short period Englandaway. We need some cold hard facts on this thread otherwise it is just anarchy,

pretty poorly thought out immigrant bashing thread. E- must do better!

of course you can claim healthcare

Emergency treatment available to all, non EU citizens have no other healthcare entitlement.

nobody 'claims' healthcare in the UK,its a free use for all system.

I don't claim healthcare. But then I'm lucky.

It was a semantic question, nobody claims healthcare in the UK.

they cannot claim on a visa. only non-eu citizens that can get treated on the nhs are refugees and ones that work here

as long as it was not anti semantic ?

Pension credit if over 60? Isn't everyone over 60 guaranteed an income of £130 per week (£198.45 for a couple) even if they have never worked? Does that not also apply to sponsored immigrants where the sponsor fails to support them?

What constitutes "Emergency treatment"? I always think of getting run down by a car or something and getting treated by an ambulance. We all get that in uk, but then theyget that in usa too.

What if you are old and get cancer? is that an emergency? The person that said non EU citizens only get emergency treatment is he saying that an Indian dependant living here would not get treated for cancer?

Lots of fuzzy statements on here. Proper hard FACTS needed I think, or we might as well all give up and go home.

but in the usa you would be landed with the bill,in the uk you wouldn't

Free care to stabilise patient but non permanent residency status (i.e visa entry) means subsequent treatment will be charged.

Haslam. is that true. I mean if you don't have health insurance and no money then you simply cannot pay can you. but they wouldnt leave you dying in the road i'm sure. Sowhat do they do - send bailiffs round while your recovering? put you in a debtor's jail?

genuine question.

its not a free service isit? so I prusume(no hard facts)that they patch you up and send you the bill and if you dont pay it you go to court then,yes, they would send the bailiffs round etc

For non permanent residents, a bill will be charged by the NHS for non emergency treatment.

which if unable to pay will be paid by dhss

Gallivanter 06 Feb 13:33


Pension credit if over 60? Isn't everyone over 60 guaranteed an income of £130 per week (£198.45 for a couple) even if they have never worked? Does that not also apply to sponsored immigrants where the sponsor fails to support them?

if the sponsor fails to support them they are deported. Dependants are only here on the understanding that the sponsor looks after them

are you talking about the US flush?

federal law mandates public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay

in US^^^

amik: are these people mentioned by the OP considered permo residents though? So they WOULD get non emergency treatment. parents and grandparents that are dependants ARE permo residents aren't they.

On another matter.

How easy is it for someone to bring a parent/grandparent into the country to live here? Can anyone who is a permo UK resident bring their parents and grandparents (who live overseas and have never been a resident of uk) into the country on some sort of dependancy visa with pretty much no questions asked?

uk

access to it shergar,but would you end up with a bill at the end?

a case to case basis

We appear to have a bucket which less & less people are putting money into & more & more taking out , the lunatics are running this asylum for sure.

How on earth can this continue , the nation can only max out so many credit cards before we go bust.

So young Johnny studies hard, does well, comes over here and gets a good job that nobody else in Britain is willing or able to do and waits patiently until he is entitled to a British passport.

A goodhearted lad, he always sends a few quid home to mum and dad. One day dad dies and Johnny, tears in his eyes, sends for his mum as a sponsored immigrant. She can't speak a word of English but Johnny can speak as well as two people so she'll be ok. She doesn't need a job, Johnny will support her.

All goes well for five years then Johnny gets married. Problem. Johnny's wife doesn't like living with Johnny's mum and Johnny's mum won't be bossed around by her daughter-in-law. "She goes or I go!" the wife yells at Johnny. Mum is thrown out on her 60th birthday.

Will the British authorities send her back to her home country or give her £130 per week pension credit and a nice little one-bedroom pensioner's bungalow with full housing benefit and council tax benefit?

If they're going to send all these old ladies back then they're condemning them to a life of bowing and scraping to their daughters-in-law, aren't they? Fall out with your sponsor and you're on a plane. I don't think the British are that cruel.

A 10-year-old Nigerian who was being held at Tinsley House immigration removal centre and had tried to strangle herself has just been given a temporary injunction against removal from the UK.

Adeoti Ogunsola had been taken into detention following a raid on her aunt's home by 15 immigration officials. She was alone at the time and was dragged screaming into a van.

Following the refusal of her family's asylum claim she and her mother were due to be deported to Nigeria last Thursday October 22nd. However, following widespread publicity Adeoti has now secured an injunction against her removal due to last until Wednesday October 28th.

This is the second time that Adeoti has been detained. In June 2009 she was held at Yarl's Wood near Bedford where she was reported to suffer severe post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the detention. The report expressly expressly stated that her condition was so serious that further detention might lead to a suicide attempt. In spite of this, and against expert evidence, she was detained a second time.

With over 2000 children currently being held in detention in the UK annually, pressure is mounting for the government to stop this abusive and unjustifiable practice.

like I said case by case, but yes they can be cruel

read the phrase "without recourse to public funds" then tell me what that means!

Spouse visa £585 + same price for each dependent, done in foreign currency at British Embassy rates.
For Phillipines this is 80 pesos (true rate is £1=73 pesos) so nearly £650 each.
So I'm about to send this £3500 shortly.
In 2 years there is ILTR at over £1000/person.
Then 1 year after that passport fees, I guess will be similar.
So no benefits including child benefit and over £15000 in visa fees. Welcome to rip-off Britain.

pension credit is for 65 yearolds.....50;000 kids get the child benefit although they never set foot in this country.

pension credit is for 65 yearolds

Blokes can get it at 60 if they're not earning much or on the sick, unemployed, etc. It also leads to help with rent, mortgage payments (interest only), winter fuel bills and some other stuff.

i stand corrected young mr.killer

Sit down, take the weight off your perplexities.

pension isnt 130 quid, its 130 quid if you have zero other household income.

What is £130 for?