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there was a poll during the "war" and something like 50% of people thought saddam hussein was responsible for 911.
' Iraq was invaded because it didn't have WMD ... Korea will never be invaded because it does have WMD '
I dont believe that. Would like to see the source. But for ffs even teresa May makes valid points. It was a total disaster. Total
I wonder will Afghanistan will come up. Another total disaster. Anyone know why our troops are dying in an unwinnable war?
Claire Short - ' I was naive to believe Tony Blair'
you'd've thought the lesson would have been learned after US experience in Vietnam or even ours in Northern Ireland.
I don't like Galloway but he's right end of story
funny she's not interested in football - looks like a Premier League ref.
lol jinx good call.......... i think there talking about flintoff as well as a j t
Geesyerdosh 04 Feb 23:10
John Terry would**g the panel
surely not Melanie Phillips :D
John Terry would**g the panel
surely not Melanie Phillips :D
you'd have trouble saying you were in favour of a privacy law when you've been in CBB house, George!
Georges popularity in Glasgow just gone through the floor :0
lmao at that question, she just gave it MORE airtime by asking that
what Short is missing is that the press indulge in it because the public wants to know about it. Broadly, we get the media we deserve.
JT on panel next week in Belfast with Iris Robinson.
Personally I couldn't give a **. John Terry a public figure? He's a footballer. A yob by definition. Who cares?
what a sickening bunch of glory seeking self righteous knobs on tonight. (the panelists)
now the dust is settling, people turning on the papers?
The difference between Woods and Terry is that one is sh@gging around and people see it as a slightly private thing.
The other is sh@gging around and a lot of people think he deserves whatever he gets because he has a history of being a moaning, **ing, bullying, brawling subject of newspaper stories exposing his previous to$$er like behaviour and is every bad cliche you can think of about a stereotypical footballer rolled up into one person. And I tend to agree with it.
I couldn't really care less as to the state of Terry's marriage. I do however think that someone who thinks he is the dog's stuff getting exposed as the to$$er that he is is quite funny.
The other is sh@gging around and a lot of people think he deserves whatever he gets because he has a history of being a moaning, **ing, bullying, brawling subject of newspaper stories exposing his previous to$$er like behaviour and is every bad cliche you can think of about a stereotypical footballer rolled up into one person. And I tend to agree with it.
I couldn't really care less as to the state of Terry's marriage. I do however think that someone who thinks he is the dog's stuff getting exposed as the to$$er that he is is quite funny.
thats not a yellow shirt dimbleby you colour-blind gimp!
has anyone ever said they had no views on the matter being discussed?
I volunteer to help Melanie - if she chunters on for much longer, I'll be clinically depressed.
They are all so adamant that they are correct about everything
Walked behind Teresa May down street near westminster, couldnt help thinking how easy it would be to attack these people
she looks like a cross between Ben Kingsley and Rowan Atkinson
So what are we saying? Agonising death because there is no system we can put in place to avoid it?
exporting these guys to switzerland is hypocritical. Do not resuscitate is common in hospitals
tell someone yuve a nuclear bomb, in your pantry assisted suicide asap
surely sending them to Switzerland they will die of boredom naturally
My mum is 87. her quality of life is not good. If she was shuffled along she would be dead. It would be sad. But not being shuffled along means what? She's never going to recapture her youth. She's never going to enjoy anything ever again. Its just a situation of waiting and hoping that whatever befalls her is not a horrible trauma.But what is certain is that unless she dies in her sleep something will befall her: a broken hip, an embolism...who knows when that day will dawn?
daily mail woman and galloway actually made some good points there. I'm close to turning. I've always kind of been in favour of euthanasia. But not so much now. Not an expert, but I wish my grandad hadn't taken so many pills and drugs during the last six months of his life - perhaps if he didn't then he would've died a few months earlier which would've meant a few months less pain. well that's my opinion. fwiw
Are nursing homes/hospitals even allowed to withdraw drugs and pills from people that basically have no quality of life or no future? That is a question i have.
I think at least ninety nine percent of people would say they do not want to be kept alive artificially when they have no quality of life.
Actively killing someone is another matter of course.
I think at least ninety nine percent of people would say they do not want to be kept alive artificially when they have no quality of life.
Actively killing someone is another matter of course.
Watched my father take 5 years to die of prostrate & bone cancer, something ruptured & the Macmillan nurse said he wont last 24 hours, without this rupture he would have taken up to another six weeks to die, he was already in a pitiful state, I cannot imagine what that time would have been for all concerned if this had not happened, its been nearly 14 years & there is not a day goes by that I do not get upset but I can tell you watching someone suffer is the hardest thing of all for all concerned.
My uncle died of stomach cancer. For the last few days they simply stopped giving him anything. water , food, He was just ignored.The last time i saw him he was clawing the air and very distressed. he died the next day
couldn't they have given him pain allieviating drugs dobbo ?
You tell me. He died horribly.Made me decide that I will never be in that position.
Dobbo....
my Grandad was the same. he got put on the liverpool plan or something. Was given nothing, he died within a few days. I'm sure it was painful, but he was barely conscious. I saw him at the very end and my mum (who has always worked in nursing homes herself and is used to these things) simply dropped a teaspoon of water in his mouth, he howled like a baby, it was awful. It was his time to go imo, and better than keeping him pumped full of drugs and keeping him alive for another month or two and then letting him die.
my Grandad was the same. he got put on the liverpool plan or something. Was given nothing, he died within a few days. I'm sure it was painful, but he was barely conscious. I saw him at the very end and my mum (who has always worked in nursing homes herself and is used to these things) simply dropped a teaspoon of water in his mouth, he howled like a baby, it was awful. It was his time to go imo, and better than keeping him pumped full of drugs and keeping him alive for another month or two and then letting him die.
True - but a simple injection would surely be the best solution
My uncle like your like your grandad wa a million never to get out of that bed. Death should have been adminstered earlier
Dobbo.
I think ninety nine point nine nine percent of people say that they don't want to be in that position. As often as not it is the family that want to keep their loved ones alive regardless. I still think my Mother was largely to blame for letting my Grandad live so long when in reality his time had come. He was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 96 and understandably refused chemo and radiotherapy, just accepted it all. but my mum still made sure he took all his pills and sh.t every day. What was the point? I'm no doctor, but he'd gone physically, and within weeks mentally, and the sooner and more painlessly he goes the better imo. He lasted six more months which was no good for anyone. Wouldn't keep a dying dog going that long.
I think ninety nine point nine nine percent of people say that they don't want to be in that position. As often as not it is the family that want to keep their loved ones alive regardless. I still think my Mother was largely to blame for letting my Grandad live so long when in reality his time had come. He was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 96 and understandably refused chemo and radiotherapy, just accepted it all. but my mum still made sure he took all his pills and sh.t every day. What was the point? I'm no doctor, but he'd gone physically, and within weeks mentally, and the sooner and more painlessly he goes the better imo. He lasted six more months which was no good for anyone. Wouldn't keep a dying dog going that long.
Not sure if i'm agreeing with you or disagreeing with you btw dobbo.
You are agreeing. Surely we are not incapable of creating a system that would allow us to not have that fear that our end will be so horrible and our last days so pointless
yep i think i agree. though i thought galloway and, dare i say it, the daily mail woman, made some valuable points. If you could just inject someone with a death injection, sooner or later the ar.seholes (government and unscrupulous family/friends) would use it to save/make money. A bit of a depressing situation really. As far as I am concerned my grandad lived 6 months longer than he should've. I don't want that to happen to me. A lot of the time I suspect simply withholding life supporting drugs would go someway towards solving the problem. Anyway I'm getting a bit upset about it all now and gonna go to bed. goodnight.
it's very difficult - my dad had lung cancer - diagnosed in October gone by the following March - very distressed in the last few weeks but had seemed reasonably OK right up until September before. My Mum diagnosed with Ovarian cancer in 1998 - had chemo 4 times and passed in 2006 - did n't suffer too much towards the end I don't think although the chemo was hellish but gave her 8 more years with her loved ones.
At her lowest points, she would say she wished she was dead but did n't mean it - always emerged from the cycle ready to fight on. For me, don't think I would have been in any state emotionally to be sure to make the right judgment if assisted death had become an issue.
At her lowest points, she would say she wished she was dead but did n't mean it - always emerged from the cycle ready to fight on. For me, don't think I would have been in any state emotionally to be sure to make the right judgment if assisted death had become an issue.
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