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03 Feb 10
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This story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8493265.stm
has had some major coverage in the North West this week. It involves a**bag stabbing a lad for no reason at all and loads of his mates going on the rampage with all sorts of weapons.
Yet the national coverage of the story has been very minimal.
Now, I guarantee if this had occured in London then we would be having wall to wall coverage of this story with special investigation programmes and in depoth interviews with every single member of the extended of the victim.
Think of all the kids you can name who have been stabbed in the past few years and whose names are now associated with it. I guarantee they are all London stories.
Yet such events regularly happen elsewhere and they get comoparitively nothing in the way of coverage.
What is it about the media, and in turn the general public, following their lead, that makes them go into complete drama queen mode about tragic stories involving crime in London but virtually ignore very similar stories elsewhere.
Is crime in London more important? Because it certainly isn't more frequent
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8493265.stm
has had some major coverage in the North West this week. It involves a**bag stabbing a lad for no reason at all and loads of his mates going on the rampage with all sorts of weapons.
Yet the national coverage of the story has been very minimal.
Now, I guarantee if this had occured in London then we would be having wall to wall coverage of this story with special investigation programmes and in depoth interviews with every single member of the extended of the victim.
Think of all the kids you can name who have been stabbed in the past few years and whose names are now associated with it. I guarantee they are all London stories.
Yet such events regularly happen elsewhere and they get comoparitively nothing in the way of coverage.
What is it about the media, and in turn the general public, following their lead, that makes them go into complete drama queen mode about tragic stories involving crime in London but virtually ignore very similar stories elsewhere.
Is crime in London more important? Because it certainly isn't more frequent
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This must have got a fair amount of coverage , i heard about it even though i rarely look at the news
Summed up Labour's 'Law And Order' policies really . The Killer had countless convictions, stretching over years ,ASBOs ,Community Service etc , but when he was remanded for the murder it was the 1st time he had ever entered a prison.
Summed up Labour's 'Law And Order' policies really . The Killer had countless convictions, stretching over years ,ASBOs ,Community Service etc , but when he was remanded for the murder it was the 1st time he had ever entered a prison.
It may have had more coverage than I've given it credit for tobes, in that case. However, look at the details involved in that story and then tell me that if it had been a story from the capital involving an innocent victim then we would not know be being force fed a 'national debate' and a collective nervous breakdown. The family would now be public figures. That is the usual routine. This is nowhere near national coverage after maybe a brief appearance in the national news
it was on bbc news at 10 last night. pretty major coverage imo.
LF has issues with London and it's inhabitants, especially**neys, who tend to be mostly Asian these days, which makes him racist.
REPORTED.
REPORTED.
i think what LF means is that it will not get the coverage that the damilola taylor and stephen lawrence cases were given.correct me if im wrong LF.
i really disagree with sentences. 17 years. sounds alot but hes only 17 now. chances are when he is released he wont exactly be a model citizen. i dont see any reason for people like that to ever be released. what purpose can it possibly serve?
I'd say crime in London - certainly mugging, which is a high % of crime generally - is more frequent .
It is maybe true that more attention is paid to similar murder stories there , that is more to due with how lazy journalists seem to be in their approach to most issues : there are more media organisations there, so a story becomes news quicker , and the others can just follow that without leaving their offices/pubs.
It is maybe true that more attention is paid to similar murder stories there , that is more to due with how lazy journalists seem to be in their approach to most issues : there are more media organisations there, so a story becomes news quicker , and the others can just follow that without leaving their offices/pubs.
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London crime figures are down
but KNIFE crime is 48% UP.
London crime figures are down
but KNIFE crime is 48% UP.
If ever there is a case for the death penalty here it is. Totally mindless killing for the thrill of it. This person has ZERO hope of rehabiliation.
Let's fry the **er, and I'm happy to push the button for free.
Let's fry the **er, and I'm happy to push the button for free.
17, and he terrorised the street ???????????
Must be a bunch of priks living down his street
Must be a bunch of priks living down his street
large charles - 17, and he terrorised the street ???????????
Must be a bunch of priks living down his street.
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indeed - i thought that.
Must be a bunch of priks living down his street.
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indeed - i thought that.
tobermory 03 Feb 18:24
This must have got a fair amount of coverage , i heard about it even though i rarely look at the news
Summed up Labour's 'Law And Order' policies really . The Killer had countless convictions, stretching over years ,ASBOs ,Community Service etc , but when he was remanded for the murder it was the 1st time he had ever entered a prison.
It's up to the police and CPS to charge wrong doers and for the courts to give appropriate sentences not the government.
This must have got a fair amount of coverage , i heard about it even though i rarely look at the news
Summed up Labour's 'Law And Order' policies really . The Killer had countless convictions, stretching over years ,ASBOs ,Community Service etc , but when he was remanded for the murder it was the 1st time he had ever entered a prison.
It's up to the police and CPS to charge wrong doers and for the courts to give appropriate sentences not the government.
I read somewhere last week that courts have been told not to send burglars to prison.
Indeed Charlie. That is the work of the Sentencing Guidelines Council , whose recommendations the Courts are obliged to follow .Virtually every recommendation is that criminals shhould not be jailed .And who created and handpicked every member of the SGC? Labour Ministers of course.
And Selina it is the Government that decides there is no need for mandatory prison sentences for people who breach ASBOs , even those who breach them 20 times. And it is the Government that decides not to build any prisons ,knowing that Judges are also obliged to consider overcrowding in jails when sentencing individual criminals.
The fact that this killer can have a 3 or 4 year criminal career ,be regulary convicted , and yet never set foot in a prison , is not a failure of the system, it is the system working exactly as Labour want it too.
But thye can on on pretending to be 'tough on crime' as long as people think criminals remain at liberty thanks to soft judges.
And Selina it is the Government that decides there is no need for mandatory prison sentences for people who breach ASBOs , even those who breach them 20 times. And it is the Government that decides not to build any prisons ,knowing that Judges are also obliged to consider overcrowding in jails when sentencing individual criminals.
The fact that this killer can have a 3 or 4 year criminal career ,be regulary convicted , and yet never set foot in a prison , is not a failure of the system, it is the system working exactly as Labour want it too.
But thye can on on pretending to be 'tough on crime' as long as people think criminals remain at liberty thanks to soft judges.
i think youd be surprised how easy it is to terrorise a street, at any age. i wouldnt tackle a 17 yr old knowing he could knife me or set my house on fire. plus you know nobody else would stick up for you, his parents would probably be even worse than him. unfortunately the days of dragging a kid back home to his parents have long gone. theres a siege mentality everywhere. the kids arent just angry, theyre scared too. scared of each other and fed up with being seen as the enemy so they act on it. the fault isnt really the kids its the parents. if youre treated with no respect, and a hell of a lot of kids are these days, then you arent going to give any respect. its about time negligent parents were locked up by the thousands.
An elsewhere story just for LF.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7054852/German-GP-made-catastrophic-error-in-giving-painkillers-to-pensioner.html
A German doctor (German my arse, he's Nigerian) accidentally gave renal colic sufferer David Gray 10 times the recommended dose of painkiller diamorphine after being called to his home in Manea, Cambs.
Ubani, who had difficulty speaking English and was on his first ever shift for out-of-hours care provider Take Care Now (TCN), became confused and injected 100mg of the drug rather than the recommended 10mg.
At an inquest into Mr Grays death at Wisbech Magistrates Court independent medical consultant Dr Andrew Saywood[b] described Ubani as
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7054852/German-GP-made-catastrophic-error-in-giving-painkillers-to-pensioner.html
A German doctor (German my arse, he's Nigerian) accidentally gave renal colic sufferer David Gray 10 times the recommended dose of painkiller diamorphine after being called to his home in Manea, Cambs.
Ubani, who had difficulty speaking English and was on his first ever shift for out-of-hours care provider Take Care Now (TCN), became confused and injected 100mg of the drug rather than the recommended 10mg.
At an inquest into Mr Grays death at Wisbech Magistrates Court independent medical consultant Dr Andrew Saywood[b] described Ubani as
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