2 brits that are kidnapped by those somalian pirates

$7m?

they done for then

thats the price you pay for bad sailing

They gambled and lost.

sympathetic lot aren't you

Doomed

Sympathetic to his wife. Women trust the judgement of their men, in this case woefully inadequate.

theyre old anyway, poor value for money.

They are someones family and being held by savages and being beaten regularly dont think its funny at all.

They made their choice, they can lie on it now. Disgrace if the government pay.

did you see the picture of the poor woman in todays paper..a walking skeleton...........absolute anarchy in somalia...needs sorting...oh no we cant interfere ...no oil.

No i think they were trying to negotiate 100 k last time which fell through

Petty CASH for
Bliar

:)

unlucky chris..been on a thread mostly populated by people with no sympathy

We've got a Black Hawk down, we've got a Black Hawk down.

shame to see that their country has abandoned them

the thing is,our wonderful royal navy practicaly handed them over,the useless cnuts.

The government needs all the money it can get to pay off Taliban terrorists,cant waste any on decent citizens m8 get real

Yeah apparently Gordon brown wants to plough loads of dosh into war and that.i wish that these people could be saved its appauling whats happening to them.

As bad as it sounds they are collateral damage and the government is most certainly doing the right thing in not paying.

If the government paid up there would be more people kidnapped and the Somali**bags would know they'll get paid. The worst thing you can do is give in to the demands of terrorists it sets a terrible precedent.

For some light hearted entertainment i recommend everyone watches the South Park episode where Cartman becomes a pirate. :-)

The govt paid for the drug smuggling nigerian slapper who got herself pregnant to avoid the death penalty in Laos, and will now serve her sentence at the taxpayers expense in a nice cosy british prison.

But they won't pay for the british couple captured by pirates.

Perhaps the giovt should have a referendum and ask the taxpayer where their money goes in cases like this.

A stupid as they are, the couple would get the dosh imo, while the slapper would be shot.

I know this sounds callous, but unless they can hold on until after the election and the ref on HRA and EU... I fear the worst.

We won't go in while we're bound by the Human Rights Act.

classic thread!

it would be rediculous to pay up...

can u imagine the amount of terrorists already in this country that would just take a chance and try the same thing...

it is PURE NAIVITY to assume paying up here as an islolated case is correct for the Government to do.

The government would be fools to pay up, and condemn further travellers in doing so. Existing policy abour right IMO, although I very much hope that, as 'time runs out' they order a rescue mission.

The Government has no balls though

I'd simply tell them .. kill that couple & we'll kill ten pirates for each one :)

That wouldn't deter them IMO!

Prob not .. but it'd be a start .. in fact why don't they just kill a few anyways

I think it would work tbh .. like i said NO BALLS .. Human Rights .. yeah .. whatever

Send a Nuclear Sub over for a few weeks !

Much as I sympathise with their horrific plight,it was their stupidity which caused the problem We have service people doing a dangerous job in Afghanistan. Surely it's more important to ensure their safety and security and if educating and funding the Taliban to lay down arms and engage in some sort of dialogue will ensure a better outcome for all in Afghanistan including British service personel then that's the way forward.

The Chandlers are responsible for the awful situation they find themselves in, the British taxpayer did not force them to go on their journey against all advice, sailing through pirate infested waters.The taxpayer (or the majority of) will see no sense or value in paying a ransom when there's no chance of reimbursement so therefore it is financially a bad decision to even think about it..

I agree they def shouldn't pay though .. but there are other means

I can't quite agree with the 'they brought it upon themselves' resolution...the risk they were taking was no greater than say, someone attempting to climb a mountain in dangerous conditions...but we wouldn't leave them on a ledge.

But paying ransoms encourages kidnappings, that's the bottom line. Go in, shoot the ** out of everyone and everything, and hope to get them back alive IMO.

Some naive and idiotic comments on this thread. Do you all think that you are in full posession of the facts of this case?
There are talks ongoing on a daily basis.
Talk of Human Rights is just Daily Mail **.
This is a difficult situation and there are more qualified people than you and me dealing with it.

Thank god for that.

Western governments are about to embark on a tactic of appeasment with terrorists,this nullifies the argument that paying ransoms and appeasing terrorists will make kidnaps/atrocities more likely (of course it will in reality make kidnaps/atrocities more likely) governments are sending confused messages either go one way or the other

I know a couple who went to the Syeychelles recently, and from advice given from the British FO as well as the local tourism office and Police they were made well aware of the pirate threat in and around the Seychelles and while boat travel between the islands was as safe as it could be, they were warned that they should hire their own craft and stay within sight of the main island. They knew about it, so did the unfortunate couple.

How do you know that?

Some naive and idiotic comments on this thread. Do you all think that you are in full posession of the facts of this case?

I know the Navy completely balls up their rescue plan last week .. which didn't make the News :^0

There are talks ongoing on a daily basis.

Talk is cheap

Was that the rescue plan i saw on the news, or another one?

should just send the boys in and demolish the whole country

no money poor standard of living and plagued by militia, better off flattening it and starting again

sparkmaster. 02 Feb 01:23
"I can't quite agree with the 'they brought it upon themselves' resolution...the risk they were taking was no greater than say, someone attempting to climb a mountain in dangerous conditions...but we wouldn't leave them on a ledge"

Well they were told not to sail where they did by the harbour master so I think they did bring it on themselves.

the ransom has apparently dropped from 7m to under 100k.

now i know its not the money and giving these filthbags 100k isnt a move that should be encouraged, but this country has given plenty more over the years, to far less deserving people.

100k to most of us is bundles and many of us would like to have that spare cash when we retire - but the way this govt prints it, its about 30 seconds worth.

I am sure the couple themselves are worth more than 100k.

Apparently all they asked for last time was £100k after the demands were set at $4.5 M.Surely if everybody chipped in a little bit with an appeal this amount could be easily be raised by family and friends

I'm surprised they're receiving any sympathy. You wouldn't go hiking through Tora Bora would you?

Having just heard that the Somali pirates want $7m for these two Rafa Benitez is furious that he has missed the transfer deadline.

Can't that lad who did a few laps of a park in Fulham raise the cash? He was all over the Haitian job, but when it comes to the Pirate booty, he's nowhere to be seen. It's PC gone mad imo.

George Michael?

So much cowardice displayed over this. The Royal Navy scared of a few kids with guns? Wtf. Never mind paying ransoms, this weak kneed lily livered government should finally show some courage and send in the SAS or whoever to rescue them right now.

Those who keep going on about the couple's stupidity seem to condone the piracy as something we should accept! Evil like that can only flourish if governments do nothing.

What about the US Navy - a mighty presence round the world but doing f all in this instance. Surely Navys could join forces and sort this problem out instead of just skulking around keeping a low profile.

So much cowardice displayed over this. The Royal Navy scared of a few kids with guns? Wtf. Never mind paying ransoms, this weak kneed lily livered government should finally show some courage and send in the SAS or whoever to rescue them right now.

Those who keep going on about the couple's stupidity seem to condone the piracy as something we should accept! Evil like that can only flourish if governments do nothing.

What about the US Navy - a mighty presence round the world but doing f all in this instance. Surely Navys could join forces and sort this problem out instead of just skulking around keeping a low profile.

Again?

Yeah Ken, so good I said it twice

this weak kneed lily livered government should finally show some courage and send in the SAS

Let's not mistake bravery with sending other people in to possibly get killed. That's not bravery. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Something is, hopefully.

Drop a tactical nuclear weapon..........that will surprise them...

Difficult sitaution now all round - even for a rescue attempt,
and probably that is why the pirates have got them seperated,
so any rescue attempt they may get one but not the other.