Apple Tablet thingy - 5pm

I know nothing about techie stuff, but under what circumstances would anyone use this?

can i explain at the end wur?

I`m really not convinced by the ibooks/ ebooks thing. Don`t most people who like books like actual books? Surely a lot of people read to get away from all the time they spend staring at a screen? In fact i`m just not convinced anyone who wants to watch a film / play a game / read a book is going to want to hold a 10" screen in front of their face.

Reyes 27 Jan 18:55
can i explain at the end wur?


Please do. ;)

i love the feel of a book too, but think travelling or text books for schools

Eventually the e-readers will replace newspapers so it'll be big business very soon.

wur, think of it as a big iphone, small laptop but with a 10 hour battery that plays games, music and stuff plus doubles up as an e-book reader.

So far the ibooks / iwork looks decent for students, but will they be able to afford it?

yep- wonder how much?

$499 or so?

Really hard to say. The iwork stuff does look good, although unfortunately i have no use for iwork. But at least it`s a proper selling point.

Gotta be a
bag of sand
To start with?
Bucks i mean
:)

£499 maybe! plans are $15 for 250gb/month and $30 for unlimited

thats big news in the US, they pay more than us for data i think

soz mb a month

here we go

pricing

16gb $499

Well done Reyes, starts at 499.

$499

i was spot on!

no doubt that'll be 499 quid here - rip off

Top end 64gb 3g 829.

$829 for top end with built in 3g support - gulp

Thats the thing Reys way over the odds over here - that'sa very decent price - most were thinking at least $700

Keyboard dock....interesting. Definitely seems like they are selling the business / studies angle rather than entertainment.

Available in 60 days -for once they haven't charged silly amounts - the price of a good laptop

£308

that'd be nice, but no doubt it'll be 399 or so

hmm. no multi tasking....not so good

"Over 75 million people know how to use iPad" Yes, because it`s just a slightly bigger (and therefore less portable) version of their phone.

I don't get why anyone would buy it. It is a big touchsceen iphone that costs about 350quid. The key thing about the ipod/ophone is it is portable lol. Why wouldnt u just buy a computer that can do more stuff.

$829 for what looks like a cheap chinese digital photo frame :^0

Bravo Apple. Bravo.

"Our most advanced technology in a magical and revolutionary device at an unbelievable price"

I`m not sure ANY part of that sentence is true.

Made in CHINA

:)

behave jimbo

must admit to feeling a bit underawed. $130 for addition of 3g support? how?

Remember, first iphone wasn't all that (the 2g one). Apple are very clever in getting the infrastructure built out (the Apps developers) THEN delivering on the hardware. (iphone 3g)

A watching brief for me.

Cheers all

Could be the end of the netbook - aimed at that sort of market

How is it aimed at netbooks when its cheapest version with 16gb hd space and no wifi is $499 (or probably £399 when it comes over here).
Can get a proper computer for that, and not look like a tit.

You've seen what people look like when using it? Post a link please.......

http://imgs.idnes.cz/mob_prakticky/A030625_RUDI_KROLLOP_MOTOROLA-DYNATAC__N.JPG

Specs for anybody that is interested:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/


don't think I'll bother but might change my mind......

It can't make calls, take pictures, play flash video (ruling out 99% of the grown-up internet) or do more than 1 thing at once (no listening to music and gambling on here, for instance) so it's really just a posing trinket of little practical use.

first two of those were never on agenda. flash bit... is that really necessary?

I take it you haven't read the specs then! No camera i'll give you that one but you really would look aa pr!ck taking a pic with that! For what it is i think it is fair enough but like all apple things it's worth waiting until the 2nd or 3rd gen, stick a web cam on it (obv it's never going to have a pic taking camera!) and have it linked to a skype account and it might be worth it.

It is going to be terrible, well the first generation is. 10 hours battery life at best, more like 6 hours in real use, looks very square and very fragile. Drop it and I bet the screen cracks easily. Whats is the point of that keyboard addon, you might as well have bought a cheaper netbook. The price will most likely be 599 to 699 UK pounds. Way too expensive. I would wait till the 2nd generation model with fixed issues to consider it.

spyker 27 Jan 18:13
Resorting to insults already garlic?

For you, yes.

What I choose to post, and where I choose to post it is nothing whatsoever to do with you.

For the record though, I am utterly underwhelmed by it.

Surely 'won't do two things at once' is a joke?

http://images.appleinsider.com/appletabletb106.jpg


He looks like a midget holding an iphone.
Should have called it the iTwat.

the ipad is as big as Job's head. This is going to be a big failure.

The common expression is 'epic fail'

Stephen Fry on Newsnight to support the IPad. But he would though as he was photographed at the event with Jonathon Ives. He's probably paid by Jobs to support it. He is going to look stupid when it fails.

he looks stupid anyway

For you, yes.

Why - what have i done to upaet you? i don't believe I've ever conversed with you so what is your problem?

lmfao. anybody who buys that wants shooting in the face.

ipad, itampon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs

:^0

why the fook would anyone buy that. Look like the fella off trigger happy tv carrying that around

another gadget that nobody needs, yet people will convince themselves they need one, the world is full of suckers who keep buying this trash

i have no idea why anybody would want one. the script was hilarious...its so much better than a laptop...you can hold the internet in your hands...how near do you need the screen ffs my laptop is about 6 inches from my nose, any nearer an i wouldnt be able to see the screen properly! it doesnt play dvds. you cant play pc games on it. its too big to really carry around but its too small to properly watch a movie on. nobody wants to read a book on a computer screen. nobody wants to listen to music on something that big. nobody would want to use the internet on it instead of a proper computer/laptop. who the hell are the pitching at?? it doesnt really do anything and doesnt fit in your pocket whilst its doing nothing.

just read a journo 'accidently' dropped one while testing it at the event show. the ipad won't restart afterwards. Opps, goodbye to your money.

:)

i think apple know they can bring any **tte out and the mug followers will buy it

and thats a fact

thats a song?

how on earth will you be able to fit it in your pocket? silly idea as we all portable stuff now..

Is this spyker/ll thing going to kick off or what, I've got to get lunch in a bit.

After much reading and watching vids, my considered opinion is as follows.

I think most of you dont really grasp the concept of this thing. It's not supposed to replace anything currently on sale, rather kickstart an until now, slow, but very exciting niche.

Internet browsing without being hunched over a laptop or desktop is desirable to me. Also, combine that with the fact that IPS is a far superior screen technology to the ones currently used in netbooks and laptops, and all in a device the size of an A4 pad, makes it a very nice solution.

I have used a kindle and find it much better than normal books. For a start, I dont like sitting in bed holding a 400 page novel or a huge broadsheet newspaper. Let alone when the fella on the train next to you decides to get his copy of the Times out. This makes everything all one standard size, nice and light, easy to hold and with the added bonus of being environmentally friendly due to no paper being used. And the ebooks store also means you dont have to go to waterstones everytime you wanna buy a book.

The Video functionality may not be fantastic, but many people travel a lot. Us sit at home Betfairians may not appreciate this, but for some, the ability to have a 3G device to download and watch stuff on the move, may be desirable to them. The same with itunes.

Instant on also a big factor. If you are not one who leaves your PC on all the time, then it becomes a chore to power up everytime you wanna check your mail. This thing is instant on. No waiting around.

I am also a very keen amateur photographer and with the camera connector kit, think this will be extremely useful for slipping in my camera bag to view pics on the move as a laptop can be too heavy.

Also, is great for the less technically aware as it is extremely simple to use. It is the sort of device you could leave on your coffee table so could just be picked up by anyone as needed.

My last Apple purchase was an ipod video about 5 years ago. Never bought the touch or iphone as while I thought they were very innovative, they were too small screenwise.

This has bridged a gap for me, and feel that the apps specially designed for it will be extremely good and useful as well. If it was over £500, then I would be dubious, but seeing as it will start cheaper than a PAYG Iphone, I think Apple have done OK.

Typing on a touchscreen must be like typing on a ZX81. People won't want to do it. It will be the end of chit chat, ffs.

I think the tech has probably improved a fair old bit.

We really need to hold one ourselves before we make a decision. I may try to find out when the Apple store will have preview models in.

It's the cynicism that puts me off more than anything else. They could, right out of the box, have made it multitasking, put a camera in, all of it. But they don't, so all the Apple fanatics buy it in the first wave, then in 6 to 8 months they'll throw in a camera and catch the next wave, then the multitasking, and so on. They're reaming you out like a bottle brush in the ketchup. A vile company, but no doubt I'll end up buying the Mrs one in about 10 years when it's worth having. And charging you £30 for a USB port, why not just ask if they can finger my arse.

It will sell to those who want a bigger screen when they look at porn in the bathroom. They'll make a fortune.

Static porn, it won't play flash video.

I do agree with your post Ken. They have obviously left some bits out on purpose that could easily have been added.

Contrary to what my post indicated, I am not a definite as yet, due to Apple's history with updating products so quickly.

I may yet wait until iPad 2nd Gen.

sure it's cynical.... as i said yesterday, get this thing out there, create some demand by getting the rest of the world to add the content and then whammo hit em with the V2.

I LOVE Apple stuff, house is full of the stuff, but won't be buying one of these. As treble says, it's not to replace a phone or laptop, the plan is for you to buy ALL 3. They are a profit making machine like most companies.

Betfair should be quite useful on it though.

the other thing is if they put everything on it that they can and it doesn't work as well as it might then it could be a flop and it could easily be a flop anyway and a lot of money will be wasted. Apple are doing what they always do and testing the water to an extent.

Apple shares fall by 4% as critics claim the new product
does NOT fully answer the existing technolgies

e.g Buying shares in Apple
Oppurtunity

:)

i hate apple. i hate how people buy their crap products for no reason other than theyre twice as expensive as much better competitors products and look shinyererer. i hate how they make you use their stupid fecking itunes nazi crapola and people put up with it. i hate how everybody with a stupid ipod/icock/igaylord thinks if you dont have one youre obviously too poor to buy one. i could buy a hundred fecking ipods/iphones/iknobsausages if i wanted to but i DONT... BLOODY... WANT ONE! if my son was an ipod id take him back to the shop and swap him for anything made by sony or creative or anybody who wasnt named after a fruit! as for iphones you can shove em right where the bloody sun dont shine. an i dont mean scotland.

let it go cb, let it go mate :D

:)

treble 28 Jan 16:22
Betfair should be quite useful on it though.

with built in 3g should be great at events

Its like the Bathroombuddy that the inventor dad produces in the first Gremlins film.

The no mutlitasking bit causes confusion imo. I've had people saying that's it rubbish they cant listen to music while browsing the web.

Poppycock, the pad will still mutlitask apple approved apps, so you can still use itunes while browsing the web or reading e-mails. And if anyone's ever used an iphone, they'll realise that it's not like closing apps, you just switch between them and it's all saved, closed down and done in the backgorund without you realising. Reopen and you just pick up from where you left off.

Not a big deal imo.

When typing with both hands on a netbook sitting on your lap you can adjust the screen so it is facing towards you. With the ipad sitting flat on your lap the screen will be facing towards the ceiling, you will view the screen at an angle.

cunny - i've used a mac for about 8 years and have bought about 3 lps off itunes in the last 3 years! You do know that you can play music files from other sites in itunes and on ipods? I'm a long way from a fanboy (the only people who will buy the tablet i think) but compared to the rubbish that microsoft force people to use apple is streets ahead! Why people put up with ie baffles me when there is safari and it's (better) clone firefox!

Spyker, I'm not a fanboy. My last product was a 3rd gen ipod video 5 years ago, but am probably gonna get one of these now.

It's honestly what I have been waiting for. Something extremely slim, light and comfortable to browse in bed, read a book or wake up and read a newspaper on it. Portable TV for when i'm away. My music, handy apps and word processor. Also internet anywhere and GPS to boot. And all with a decent size screen.

Think it's got a lot more going for it than the mockers suggest tbh.

Treble - i wasn't havinga dig, soz if it looked that way - i should have said 'in the main these will be bought by fanboy's'. There are obv people like you that will have a need for them - i've got a 'touch' mainly as it acts as a remote for my computer and i don't need an iphone or a laptop so i can see a time when i might use an ipad - just not till the 2nd or 3rd gen!

The lack of infra red on the ipad so you cant control your tv or anything would have bothered me, but I own a logitech harmony one, so luckily it's not an issue.

The only thing thats missing imo is a camera and usb port. Multitasking arguments are a little thin and even then, multitasking could be achieved by a software update or an eventual jailbreak.

The camera dont bother me though as i'm an ugly ba$tard and no one wants to see my boat anyway :D

Like i said earlier a camera and some sort of tie in with skype and it might have more appeal to many - but maybe that would be too revolutianry (and could spell the beginning of the end of mobile phones - allbeit a fair way off). it'll be interesting to see what the take up is and if it catches on - i suspect it may well be slow to start with but as more apps become available it could well take on, esp with kindle users.

ive used IE about twice in my life. yes i know you dont have to buy off itunes. my mp3 player cost about a quarter of the ipod touch, plays mp3s and videos and has a built in speaker. it has an sd card slot so i could instantly increase the memory from 8gb to 40gb plus obviously have other stuff on other sd cards that you can change literally in about 1 second. i dont have any interest in using the web or playing games on an mp3 player, i do that on my computer. i just get a bit annoyed at ppl trying to shove ipods down my throat when they dont do anything i want them to do any better than the mp3 ive got.

When typing with both hands on a netbook sitting on your lap you can adjust the screen so it is facing towards you. With the ipad sitting flat on your lap the screen will be facing towards the ceiling, you will view the screen at an angle.

You can wear high heels to bring your knees up and solve that.

Anyone who buys this thing will also buy high heels, imo.

Fair enough cunny but some people do 'need' a touch as like i say it syncs with my mac and I have no need for a laptop/iphone and it fills that gap - my phone has a more than decent mp3 player as well that i don't use. I understand what you say about ipods but maybe a few years ago when they were superior to pretty much all the others but are peoole like that now, other than the fanboys and every (gadgety) corporation has those? It sounds like you may be the market that apple are looking for for the ipad!

Look, it's gay, end of.

FACT!

Thanks for contributing, everyone, great thread!

Ken has just contacted me to say his last post should be ignored....

....his psychotic 5th personality temporarily got the upper hand...

How the f*ck can anyone take Jobs seriously.

What a scruffy b*stard. Turning up to a press conference to show off your "state of the art" product looking like a junkie who has misplaced his baseball cap.

Also, never trust a man who tucks his jumper into his trousers and doesnt wear a belt

he's kewl www :)

What a scruffy b*stard. Turning up to a press conference to show off your "state of the art" product looking like a junkie who has misplaced his baseball cap.

I thought he looked ok considering he nearly died last year and had a liver transplant and has been in charge of this launch (as well as other parts of the business) throught it all.......

Any excuse.

spyker 29 Jan 09:24
I thought he looked ok considering he nearly died last year and had a liver transplant and has been in charge of this launch (as well as other parts of the business) throught it all.......

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This is not the point. He could have made more of an effort. What if i turned up like that for a job interview at Apple and you turned up in a suit and tie.

Both of equal techinical ability and come across well at the interview

First impressions last. My lasting impression is not of the product at all, its of the scruffy bloke who was demonstrating it

rumours now that ibooks is US only. that's it finished here then.

DON'T BUY THIS VERSION!

Only temporarily Reyes. Once they sort out the deals with the publishrs (which they will be falling overthemselves for) then we'll have it here.

Theres no way they would have made such a big deal about it if it was US only, and if it was, they would have had an obligation to mention it in the keynote speech.

What an absolute load of C R A P that i-pad is.

Does nothing new and is priced for an epic fail. If people ever choose reading a book on a computer screen over a paper version I will eat my own underpants!

I will Charwell, so you better start seasoning your kacks.

Save on the environment, easier to read in bed in low light, quicker to buy a book, no delivery charge for newspapers any more and books and newspapers with embedded video. Great for reference books.

I'll bet anyone here that this thing does not fail.

I think it will fail and be quietly forgotten about. For soemthign to read in bed it is awfully expensive!!! A book costs about 5quid and is portable. This costs 550 and then you still ahve to buy the books which I bet won't be much cheaper than they would be in hardcopy.

Many people (including many in the industry) said that ipods would fail and they've been reasonably successful!