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Wedontneednostinkinbadges
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i sent my gold, and ive got enough for a cup of bovril at old trafford. marvellous.
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Report gunghadhin • January 27, 2010 9:33 AM GMT
The thieving **os should be shot with sh1t!!!!
Report Wedontneednostinkinbadges • January 27, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
agree completely. all i know is mr.palmer could of made a killing from this passing cottage industry.
Report Wedontneednostinkinbadges • January 27, 2010 9:38 AM GMT
doesnt winton sound re assuring in their ad.?
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 9:38 AM GMT
lol, they're not thieves.

i enquired several months ago the rate per gram and it was 30-40% higher than the high st and over a pound per gm higher than the place i used to label as the best place to take it.

just make sure you know your weight and get the price b4 u start any transaction...
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:40 AM GMT
What is the scam? What percentage of the stock market price of gold quoted (about 1000 dollars/ounce) do they pay for it?
Report 1st time poster • January 27, 2010 9:40 AM GMT
to stop people getting ripped off,cant understand why the government doesnt set up a similar scheme paying the going rate
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:41 AM GMT
Say I had an ounce of scrap gold and the market rate was $1000/oz, what would they pay me?
Report CUPRA • January 27, 2010 9:42 AM GMT
what the fk are you on about? you need money, you cant get any. you have gold, I pay you x for gold. you dont accept, fk off. you accept, here is money. no problem.
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 9:43 AM GMT
about 6£ a gram when i looked, look up a site.

u would need to know the carat.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:43 AM GMT
I almost totally agree with CUPRA.
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 9:44 AM GMT
cupra, it isnt just that, the price they are paying for scrap gold now is more then you could buy the stuff new a few years ago...

THATS the issue imo...
Report CUPRA • January 27, 2010 9:46 AM GMT
WAsn't at you, dealem, its at the 'theiving' comments. As said before, you are quit ahhpy to pay for a telly at 800 quid that costs 25 dinar to be made - who is the theiving bastewrd?
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
I thought the carat was the percentage. 24 carat is 100% gold.

so if you had an ounce of 24 carat you'd get the going rate for one ounce.
if it was 12 carat you'd get half the going rate

have i over simplified it?

£6/gram is about 170/ounce which is about 260? dollars /ounce. which is a quarter of the going rate. Which is a rip off, but it is surely up to the punter whether they do it. They're not ripping the rings off you're fingers.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:49 AM GMT
Everything about it looks like a scam though - the cheesy adverts, and the times they show it and the cheesy actors who do the adverts. It just has SCAM written all over it, if people can't see that just from the adverts then that is their problem.
Report backtolay • January 27, 2010 9:54 AM GMT
Bear in mind the troy ounce that gold is measured in is greater than a standard ounce.
The money men behind these cash for gold companies are hoovering up gold because they know that when the next paper money disaster happens,(and it will happen) that they now have gold as a solid depndable asset that will hold it's value at worst and should appreciate in value even more.
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 9:56 AM GMT
9 carat is 32.5% a troy ounce has 30.5 grams in not 28.35

i think they are making about 10% if that on there stuff. i dont know about the scammers, but like i say, if u know what your getting b4 u send the stuff in, then you can look for the best payers.

when you post it, it is insured to well over the amount you are sending so it doesn't matter if it is lost in the post.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 9:57 AM GMT
it won't hold its value if a clever scientist works out how to make gold from other elements.
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 10:00 AM GMT
backtolay, the reason gold is so dear at the moment has nothing to do with what you said there...

for years gold was a steady price, i remember selling gold at school and it was roughly the same price untill a short while ago. that's 20 years.

100k of gold stock was ruinning at far less than inflation in my eyes for years.

i cant remember why it is so high now but it has something to do with china buying into gold for bank reserves or something like that.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:01 AM GMT
9 carat gold isn't gold imo.

http://www.cash4mygold.co.uk/index.php?ads=gg5000&gclid=CPGWls-0xJ8CFV1d4wod2VuThg

this site quotes

9carat = 8.07/gram.
22 = 19.70

why 22 carat? thought top gold was 24 carat?

that 22 carat rate transfers to abou 600 quid/troy ounce, which is not a million miles off the going rate. So what is the scam?
Report Dealem.... • January 27, 2010 10:02 AM GMT
24 carat is called bullion and i think it is illegal to have pure gold in the uk unless allowed to. 22 ct is the highest standard below that.
Report sparkmaster. • January 27, 2010 10:07 AM GMT
Some of you may find this interesting.

http://www.candidmoney.com/articles/article51.aspx

Cash4Gold paying less than a third of what a jeweller would, although I suppose condition may vary. There's some even worse ones, too.
Report backtolay • January 27, 2010 10:08 AM GMT
The money men simply want all your gold, Cash For Silver will be appearing soon because that is another dependable appreciating asset that won't be affected when the next paper money collapse happens.
Report Easter 1916 • January 27, 2010 10:13 AM GMT
Well I for one am grateful to see so many companies altruistically purchasing everybody's 'unwanted' gold.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:15 AM GMT
is 22 carat gold nearly pure gold?
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:16 AM GMT
And I suppose you have to send them a valid certificate of ownership with your gold too? They can pay under the going rate as they are effectively fencing stolen goods, I should imagine that 33% of the market value for something that the thieves got for free sounds an OK deal.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:18 AM GMT
19.70/gram for 22 carat gold doesn't give them a massive profit by my calcs.

What have I missed? is that rate just the advertised rate, do they scam you somehow andmake you pay a lesser rate and add charges etc?
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
or is it that a ring with say £500 of gold in, is actually worth £1000? and so they're not melting them down for gold, but selling them on as jewellery because they are worth more that way?
Report sparkmaster. • January 27, 2010 10:22 AM GMT
Well that's the point they're making, jewellery etc will usually be worth more than the sum of its gold content.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:22 AM GMT
positively4thsteet 27 Jan 10:41


Say I had an ounce of scrap gold and the market rate was $1000/oz, what would they pay me?

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According to tests carried out by newspapers ...6%..

On one otest a batch of gold bought for £719 was offered £38 for ..
In another test a £339 gold bracelet the newspaper undercover (just bought from a reputable dealer ) and was told it was NOT gold and not worth the cost of posting back ....had a big fight to get it back and had to pay £11 return postage...
Horror letters in the papers claim they sent of several hundred pounds worth of Gold and offered sums like £25 ....when trying to get it back told "Sorry its already been melted down "...
Anyone got Personal experience of these Envelope Companies ?
..Not for me , I might add, I wouldn't touch them with a gold tooth pick ..
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:23 AM GMT
just read that article sparky.

it suggests to me that if you havea fancy ring that doesn't have much gold in but is quite ornate etc then prob worth more in its present state than melted down.

if you had a simple ring with lots of gold in it, might be cheaper melted down.
Report sparkmaster. • January 27, 2010 10:24 AM GMT
All this talk of the nature of my ring is making me nervous.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:24 AM GMT
http://www.cashforgoldscams.com/scam21.htm
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:25 AM GMT
Usually Sparky, but can't see that being the case right now. Gold prices are high and we're all on our uppers due to ongoing economic misery. I don't know, but imagine that luxuries such as jewelery are hardest hit in such times. I've certainly no plans to buy any!
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:26 AM GMT
here is a site dedicated to it

http://www.cashforgoldscams.com/
Report Easter 1916 • January 27, 2010 10:26 AM GMT
I can't believe that these apparently reputable 'stick your unwanted gold in a jiffy bag and sent it to us for top dollar' companies might actually be a bunch of crooks.
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:27 AM GMT
oh, i see.

The surprising thing to me is that a 400 quid ring might only have twenty odd pounds worth of gold in it. thought that most of the cost of the ring was the precious metals/jewels in it.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:28 AM GMT
(moneywise site)..
First of all, its important to understand how these online gold companies work. Unlike dealers, the value of your gold is based on its carat and the weight. The money you are offered will also depend on the value of gold at the time of the sale.

If you have a rare or antique piece of jewellery, this will not be reflected in the price. In addition, precious stones set within a piece a cluster of diamonds in a ring, for example is unlikely to be of interest and you probably wont be given extra cash for them.

You have two main options. The first is to send your gold in to a company that provides free and insured postage, to find out what it will pay. You can then either agree to accept the offer in which case you should be paid immediately or have the item returned to you.

Returned items may be posted back for free, or you may face a charge. Remember, these companies are buying gold for scrap to be melted down, so there is no going back if you accept an offer.

You wont be able to get a valuation ahead of sending in an item. Clearly, there is risk involved in this method, as you have no protection should the company turn out to be a scam. Many postal gold companies say they rely on recommendations from previous customers to bring in new clients.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:30 AM GMT
(more from Moneywise site)..
The other option is to ditch the Tupperware and instead host a
Report sparkmaster. • January 27, 2010 10:31 AM GMT
I wonder how many people just do a sh1t in the jiffy bag instead.
Report Ken Masters • January 27, 2010 10:31 AM GMT
They'll even accept your broken gold.

WTF is broken gold???
Report Ken Masters • January 27, 2010 10:32 AM GMT
^ Yes, 3 question marks.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:32 AM GMT
(moneywise site again)..I
n many cases, sellers of unwanted gold might only achieve 50% of the current market value, and a spokeswoman for PostalGold says many of its competitors only pay 30%.

and THAT last commenrt is from a Company inside the industry !!
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:34 AM GMT
..KM...broken gold ...means split rings , broken necklaces, broken bracelets , mangled items ....non-pristine gold items ...
Report Ken Masters • January 27, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
How much do you think I'd get for my split ring?
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
split rings?!!
Report sparkmaster. • January 27, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
How non-pristine is it?
Report Ken Masters • January 27, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
18 carrots.
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
:_|
Report positively4thsteet • January 27, 2010 10:36 AM GMT
what about pearl necklaces?
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:37 AM GMT
1.01 landed
Report Ken Masters • January 27, 2010 10:37 AM GMT
I've got a chunky bangle I want to shift.

Susanna Hoffs was never the same after she had a kid.
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
Dale Winton is the one I feel sorry for in all of this. He only agreed to the gig because when his agent rang with the offer he misheard and thought he was being asked to advertise a firm that specialises in handling swollen goods.
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:51 AM GMT
7/10 :-)
Report Joe Jordan • January 27, 2010 10:51 AM GMT
but don't be feeling **y . ;-)
Report Desmond Orchard • January 27, 2010 10:59 AM GMT
LOL. Cheers.

Am here all week................. try the veal......etc
Report Do wah Diddy • January 27, 2010 11:01 AM GMT
£4 A GRM IN SALFORD IF YOUR VERY LUCKY,JEWLERS OFFERING WELL UNDER £4 A GRM
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 27, 2010 11:04 AM GMT
It will be less though if the gold tooth you are trying to sell is still attached to the blokes head.
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