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25 Jan 10
08:41
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Doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it be believe me you?
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Everything's always SVO these days but VSO used to be perfectly acceptable in old English.
Because English doesnt add endings to words to show how they are being used in a sentence, word order is crucially important. Today, virtually all sentences that make a statement have to be put in the order subject-verb-object (SVO):
Roger The Butler 25 Jan 09:41
Doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it be believe me you?
No, cos that would mean the opposite. "Believe you" is the verb part, "me" is the object.
Doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it be believe me you?
No, cos that would mean the opposite. "Believe you" is the verb part, "me" is the object.
If I said 'Believe me you' it would be me imploring you to believe me.
If I say 'Believe you me' it makes me sound like a nutter talking to myself and telling myself to believe what the other person is saying.
If I say 'Believe you me' it makes me sound like a nutter talking to myself and telling myself to believe what the other person is saying.
Reminds me of one of Billy Connolly's,
"See, I've always had... I've always had trouble with communication.
And it started at home, you know, no one could ever talk to me.
You know, you say "Dad?" He says "What?" And everybody I knew were the same, all my friends.
And it... the people couldn't communicate properly.
They didn't talk about generation gap, because it wasn't a problem.
You just battered the children.
"You (slap) stupid (slap) person."
And on it went. But they used to say strange things to you.
Say "Can I go out on my bike?" "What? Bike? I'll give you bike!" "I've got a bike." "Don't talk to me like that!
And don't think that about me, boy!"
"Can I go to the pictues?" "WHAT? Pictures is it? I'll pictures you, my lad!" What does that mean?
There's lots of things I don't know. "I'll make you smile in the other side of your face." "What're you gonna do, slash me?"
And then there's one they use in Scotland: "I'll take my hand off your face, my boy." It was the putting on at high speed, I didn't fancy."
"See, I've always had... I've always had trouble with communication.
And it started at home, you know, no one could ever talk to me.
You know, you say "Dad?" He says "What?" And everybody I knew were the same, all my friends.
And it... the people couldn't communicate properly.
They didn't talk about generation gap, because it wasn't a problem.
You just battered the children.
"You (slap) stupid (slap) person."
And on it went. But they used to say strange things to you.
Say "Can I go out on my bike?" "What? Bike? I'll give you bike!" "I've got a bike." "Don't talk to me like that!
And don't think that about me, boy!"
"Can I go to the pictues?" "WHAT? Pictures is it? I'll pictures you, my lad!" What does that mean?
There's lots of things I don't know. "I'll make you smile in the other side of your face." "What're you gonna do, slash me?"
And then there's one they use in Scotland: "I'll take my hand off your face, my boy." It was the putting on at high speed, I didn't fancy."
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