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21 Jan 10 15:37
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An 11-year-old boy who was brutally attacked by two brothers in a wooded ravine told his nine-year-old fellow victim: "You go, and I'll just die here". Skip related content
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A court listening to an account of the two young boys' 90-minute ordeal at the hands of the brothers heard that the attackers stopped only because their arms ached.

The incident happened in Edlington, South Yorkshire, on April 4 last year, when the brothers were 10 and 11.

Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting at Sheffield Crown Court, described how, after the brothers left the scene, the younger boy knelt next to the other boy and asked him if he was OK.

The elder boy replied: "No. I can't see and I can't move my body... You go, and I'll just die here."

During a police interview, the younger of the two brothers was asked whether he had meant to kill the boys:

(The younger brother): No.

(Police): Why did you stop?

(YB): Erm, he kept screaming, so I stopped it.

(P): How were you feeling?

(YB): What, when I kept hitting him?

(P): Afterwards?

(YB): Tired .. my arms were hurting.

(P): If your arms hadn't been aching, would you have carried on?

(YB): Yeah.

The judge, Mr Justice Keith, heard that the victims were strangled, smashed with bricks, forced to eat nettles, stripped and forced to sexually abuse each other.

The elder boy was seriously injured when pieces of a ceramic sink were dropped on his head.

The brothers, who are now aged 11 and 12, have admitted causing their victims grievous bodily harm with intent.

They denied a more serious charge of attempted murder but the prosecution accepted their pleas and said there would be no trial.

A three-day sentencing exercise is expected to conclude on Friday.

The victims - who are uncle and nephew - continue to suffer emotional trauma, including nightmares, the judge was told.

Mr Campbell said: "Both have made good physical recoveries, although the scarring (of both boys) and the hair loss (of the elder boy) will be permanent.

"In many ways, (the elder victim), who suffered the worst injuries, has recovered emotionally better than his younger nephew, who had taken on the burden of leaving him behind to seek assistance and then was too unwell to lead the search for his uncle."

At one point the hearing was stopped for 15 minutes after the younger defendant became distressed as details of violence by his father against them and his mother were detailed.

The court was told the brothers had to live in a "toxic household" and that intervention to change their behaviour had been "too little, too late".

Both brothers had been in trouble before for assault.

During proceedings, the court was shown a 20-minute video shot by police of the two locations where the boys were attacked.

The brothers sat quietly in court watching the video.

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By:
The Magic Flea
When: 21 Jan 10 15:40
absolutely horrid situation. What bothers me is the psychatrist said they had a potential to become psychopaths. IMO they are already
By:
owl4life
When: 21 Jan 10 15:41
at that age 2, dear me, they will b let out and no doubt do it again
By:
STEPTOES YARD
When: 21 Jan 10 15:42
Should be locked up indefinitely
By:
Sica Dan
When: 21 Jan 10 15:44
New identity etc etec
By:
ladycakes69
When: 21 Jan 10 15:45
shcoking stuff , remembering reading this when first happened , they should be done for attempted murder , hope they ge t a very long time
By:
GAZO
When: 21 Jan 10 15:45
and the parents should be locked up as well
By:
Java
When: 21 Jan 10 15:48
Kill them, sterilise the parents. Job done.
By:
kingfisher 23
When: 21 Jan 10 15:49
should be hung, evil pure evil
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 21 Jan 10 15:53
The parents should do time. So many feral kids running around where the parents haven't got a clue where they are, what they are up to or who they are with - and they don't give a toss. If the law was changed to make parents more accountable for their kids up to the age of 16, this sort of thing would become less common.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 21 Jan 10 15:54
agreed. It works in Germany where they have such laws
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 22 Jan 10 11:23
Below is a bit long winded, but taken from the BBC - who also say that an invesigation in to the case showed "Social Services were heavily involved in the boys lives". Hindsight is as ever a wonderful thing, but ffs - if SS were ever gonna' jump in before it all went tits up then surely this was it.

Edlington attack boys had 'toxic' upbringing

One of the attackers filmed part of the torture
Two brothers who brutally attacked two young boys witnessed serious domestic violence against their mother and had a "toxic home life", a court has heard.

The brothers, aged 10 and 11 at the time, attacked their victims in Edlington, South Yorkshire, last April.

Peter Kelson QC, representing the older brother, told Sheffield Crown Court the boys' father threatened to slice their mother's face "to bits" with a knife.

The court heard the boys were also shown "extreme" horror films.

The sentencing hearing, which is expected to conclude on Friday, was adjourned for a short time after the younger brother became distressed.


The failure here is that nobody ever seems to have protected [the older brother] from himself and [the victims] have all suffered so terribly

Peter Kelson QC


'Leave me to die', victim pleaded
The boy put his head on the desk in front of him and cried as Mr Kelson began to outline the brothers' violent upbringing.

The judge, Mr Justice Keith, has heard how the brothers threatened to kill their victims, then aged nine and 11, stamped on them and attacked them with broken glass, bricks and sticks.

One victim was forced to strip naked and perform a sex act and a metal ring was used to strangle one boy.

The brothers have admitted causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

They have also each pleaded guilty to robbing one of the boys of a mobile phone and the other of cash and have admitted two counts of intentionally causing a child to engage in sexual activity.

'Gruesome movies'

The boys' mother, who has seven sons including the two defendants, described to a consultant psychiatrist being subjected to serious violence by their father.

Mr Kelson described one incident when her partner said he would "take a knife to her and slice her face to bits".

He added: "These threats were made in front of the children."

The barrister said his client's upbringing could be summarised by a reference in one report to his "toxic home life".

Mr Kelson said his client had been shown horror films at his home when he was as young as 10.



Police video shows the route the boys took before and after the horrific attack
He said the films were "extremely violent" and "gruesome movies in the extreme".

The barrister said the boy also had access to his father's pornographic DVDs.

Mr Kelson said his client would also drink cider, had 10 cigarettes a day and smoked cannabis grown on his father's allotment from the age of nine.

A BBC investigation has already revealed the two attackers were well-known troublemakers and that social services were heavily involved in their lives.

A Safeguarding Children Board report, seen by BBC Newsnight, found the attack could have been prevented.

Mr Kelson said he did not want to blame the state for the older brother's behaviour but said he had been "let down repeatedly".

He added: "Children, young children, should be protected from themselves and the failure here is that nobody ever seems to have protected (the older brother) from himself and (the victims) have all suffered so terribly."
By:
canaryboy
When: 22 Jan 10 11:36
:^0
By:
canaryboy
When: 22 Jan 10 11:37
sorry i missed the pasting

GAZO 21 Jan 16:45
and the parents should be locked up as well



Java 21 Jan 16:48
Kill them, sterilise the parents. Job done.

:^0
By:
canaryboy
When: 22 Jan 10 11:37
and this gem


kingfisher 23 21 Jan 16:49
should be hung, evil pure evil
By:
canaryboy
When: 22 Jan 10 11:38
not gazo's comment

ffs
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 22 Jan 10 11:39
You need to get yourself a secretary to dictate to mate!
By:
canaryboy
When: 22 Jan 10 11:42
agreed!
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