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ReaseHeath
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Must be due for parole soon surely. Wonder if they've put her in touch with Maxine Carr so she can suss out all the scams to financially benefit from er new identity?
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Report garlicbread • January 21, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
Same person.
Report pamela handerson • January 21, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
maxine carr is already out - with a new identity- working. has been for several years. media know about it but restrictions prevent saying where or what.
Report a bitofinterest • January 21, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
labs chat ]:)
Report Lozzy • January 21, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
Maxine Carr wasn't evil, she was just a pathetic simpleton who thought she was in love with bad boy like so many stupid women.
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
Yeah I think she was quite hot too.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
agree Lozzy
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
erm

Maxine Carr knew about everything

in what way is she not evil?
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
d13pne

lozzie's post is self-explanatory
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
At the risk of being serious, thinking oneself in love is poor excuse for wickedness. If you spouse asked you to conceal the murder of two children they'd killed, would you?
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
Maxine Carr deserves much sympathy after the disgrace of the British Justice System,
kowtowing to the sensationalist media
Report BillKiller • January 21, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
just a pathetic simpleton who thought she was in love with bad boy

She was out on the razzle getting shafted when Huntley killed the kids. Maybe she should have stayed home but she certainly wasn't acting like a woman 'in love'.

She did a good job of cleaning the house of all evidence, too.
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
Are we talking about the same Maxine Carr who covered up the murders of two innocent young girls because she was in love?

no she is fine i reckon

:(
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
sparkmaster. 21 Jan 22:28
At the risk of being serious, thinking oneself in love is poor excuse for wickedness. If you spouse asked you to conceal the murder of two children they'd killed, would you?


women who love bad boys would, and that's quite common
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
you won't believe what women love

i still agree with lozzy
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
BAD women would punter, yes.
Report Ovalman. • January 21, 2010 9:32 PM GMT
MILF
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:32 PM GMT
Surely if she has a tendency for this kind of behaviour she is not fit for society?

it must be some kind of mental illness to do what she did
Report ReaseHeath • January 21, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
wonder how Karen's toyboy ex is getting on.He looked like a sharp cookie.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
am inclined to think maxine carr would never have been like what she is now if it wasn't for Huntley

if that is the case, was she evil?
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
She didn't cover anything up
She was found Not Guilty of assisting Huntley
Report Ovalman. • January 21, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
Sorry meant MILF off a cliff.
Report ReaseHeath • January 21, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
^ if it was n't for Huntley, she'd still be Maxine Carr.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
d13phe 21 Jan 22:32
Surely if she has a tendency for this kind of behaviour she is not fit for society?

it must be some kind of mental illness to do what she did


there's a good few hundred and thousands of people walking the streets of Britain that are not fit for society but they may roam at their own will
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
Wasn't Maxine Carr's biggest crime just providing an alibi for Huntley? She didn't know anything did she?
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
poppydog

she got 3 and a half years for lying to the police about her whereabouts
Report garlicbread • January 21, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
Not sure if she'd get it to be honest, funny complexion.
Report Howdi • January 21, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
there's a good few hundred and thousands of people walking the streets of Britain that are not fit for society but they may roam at their own will

15000 of them on here
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
3.5 years for lying about your whereabouts seems a bit harsh.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:36 PM GMT
probably Howdi, but not me, am a civil servant ;)
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
Punter, the nature of evil is very much open to debate, but without Huntley she was the woman who would help cover up the murder of children by a man she felt herself in love with. You're doing women a disservice if you think they're all like this.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
yes easter1916, very harsh, especially that she would've been sh!t scared about the whole situation
Report popup • January 21, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
Where Maxine Carr is concerned, the media were just looking for a replacement for Myra Hindley.
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
Yep dead harsh

Hunny you know I love you

well you know them two girls the police found dead. Can you kind of ahem tell them you were with me that night

Why?

Oh no reason
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:38 PM GMT
He told her a story of an alibi, that he was being set-up and that he was innocent
She believed him and stuck by him

Stupid, but 3 1/2 years!
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:39 PM GMT
sparkmaster. 21 Jan 22:37
Punter, the nature of evil is very much open to debate, but without Huntley she was the woman who would help cover up the murder of children by a man she felt herself in love with. You're doing women a disservice if you think they're all like this.


That's a very fair post Sparkmaster, what about women that are in love with guys who do GBH or ABH on other people, it's still OK for the lady to stick by him?
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:39 PM GMT
If that's true Punter, and his story was believable, then fair enough - my point was really that being in love is so excuse for evil.
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
Hell, let's just get a room!
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
women are a bit funny about love, not like men whom are often more logical
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
d13phe 21 Jan 22:26


erm

Maxine Carr knew about everything

in what way is she not evil?


spat my drink out at that. ffs pmsl
Report Fenway • January 21, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
Is anyone going to defend what Karen Matthews did?
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
I think you have her wrong sparky. She didn't know he'd committed the murders. He had previous for similar and told her that the cops would suspect him because of it. She stupidly and naively went along with it. Should have got a caution imo.
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
To answer that last question, no, if she knows him to be guilty.
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
A caution for lying to the police in a highly publicised double murder case?
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
what about women who know that their man is always **ing on them? but yet still stick by them?

women know no boundaries, they LOVE a partnership with a man, but more often than not, they are often masked by what the guy has done

and if the woman is very much in love, she'll be happy to hide the murder committed by the man, cos love is love
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
And another huge flaw is that this stupid liar was made to share the dock with a monster.
Why on earth were the tried together?
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
When they make me el presidente she'll get a pardon.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
thats women for you, maxine carr did not commit any crime except for the man she was in love with
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
Perverting the course of justice in a child-murder case is IMO, merits a stronger sentence than a ticking off!

I'm not sure where your confidence in her belief in his innocence comes from?
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
d13phe 21 Jan 22:43


A caution for lying to the police in a highly publicised double murder case?


highly publicised should havenothing to do with it. that probably went against her. like it went against colin stagg and barry bulsara.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
cos she was stupidly sticking by her man no matter what he has done!
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
So you're saying she knew he was guilty and still went along with it?
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
punterfleecer 21 Jan 22:46
cos she was stupidly sticking by her man no matter what he has done!
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
to easter1916, yes
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
well said p4s, the degree of publicity should have nothing to do with it.
Report naydam • January 21, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
I think she knew her boyfriend, and his evil tendencies, very well. This was a truly horrific murder of two totally innocent children. She did not get sentenced for simply lying about his or her whereabouts. She attempted to pervert the course of justice anhd, in my estimation, was an accessory BEFORE AND AFTER the fact.
You wouldn't like her babysitting YOUR kids. Would you?
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
you often get women who'll stick by their man, even when the guy has battered someone to a pulp etc

though you will get the odd example of when a woman will stick by the guy even when the partner committed murder

maxine carr is an oddity, she is not evil though
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
pos4thstreet OJ Simpson, got away with his murder cos he was black

disgusting isn't it?

he even admitted it in his book did he not?
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
If the court believed she knew for definite,
she would have been convicted for assisting an offender.


These charges were dismissed
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
I cant fathom why people are justifying what she did

:(
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
it was him that committed the murders anyway!

would Huntley have done that if it wasn't for Maxine Carr?
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
In fact one of these days in one of these highly publicised peadophile/murder cases ( there is one every year or two), they WILL get the wrong person. And that person will have already been hung by the tabloids anyway, or the police will get the right person but that person will not be allowed to be tried because of media intrusion or some sort. Didn't something like that happen when some leeds football players beat up some asians one night. case was fekked because of the daily mirror.

just remembered the other guy i was thinking of.... Robert Murat.... the tabloids were ready to hang him for the maddy mcann thing, as far as i can tell they had no evidence at all. he was totally, and I mean totally, innocent. Daily Mail did a short apology one day. big deal.
Report naydam • January 21, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
What the court believes may be different to what the can prove. She got away virtually scot-free.
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
I can't believe that people think 3.5 years for lying about your whereabouts is justice.
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
can we just bear in mind who actually did the crime?
Report dlarssonf • January 21, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
either can I d13, a world gone mad, she should have got a lot more than 3 years, dress it up any way you want, she was an accesory to murder but if it had of been her daughter years down the line would she be throwing out the silly " poor me I was in love " crap
Report BillKiller • January 21, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
She didn't get a single day for lying about her whereabouts. She got time for perverting the course of justice.
Report sparkmaster. • January 21, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
I don't really think she was an accessory to murder! She helped him try to cover it up - no more of an excuse for a woman than it is for a man.
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
She works at 'The Pork Sword' in Mirfield
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
dlarssonf 21 Jan 22:54
either can I d13, a world gone mad, she should have got a lot more than 3 years, dress it up any way you want, she was an accesory to murder but if it had of been her daughter years down the line would she be throwing out the silly " poor me I was in love " crap


no she wasn't
Report Poppydog. • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
There are some strange (and frightening) interpretations of the Law on this thread
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
Other than lying about her whereabouts how did she pervert the course of justice? And how was she an accessory to murder when she was in Grimsby at the time?
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
naydam 21 Jan 22:53


What the court believes may be different to what the can prove. She got away virtually scot-free.


didn't follow the case or any of these cases tbh. and i am not a legal expert, and certainly not a left winger. but surely you're not suggesting they gave her extra time because they thought she'd done something that they couldn't prove. vigilante groups can do that.
Report dlarssonf • January 21, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
if thats what you think punter
Report BillKiller • January 21, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
Knowing he was a child killer, she gave him a false alibi and scrubbed all the evidence out of the house.

She got off lightly, imo. Mind you, so did he.
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
did she know he was a child killer?
Report d13phe • January 21, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
Of course she did ffs

but this is something they could not prove in a court of law but she is not going to admit it is she?
Report Easter 1916 • January 21, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
If she knew Bill I have little sympathy for her. But did she know? I remember them saying she'd cleaned the house - don't a lot of people clean their house? I assume Huntley had attempted to remove most of the evidence before she returned, unless of course he knew that she'd be all blaise and reach straight for the pledge.
Report naydam • January 21, 2010 10:01 PM GMT
No. I'm saying she was guilty of a lot more than just having an evil boy-friend. She tried to falsify the evidence.
Report naydam • January 21, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
Sorry. My 23-01 post was for 4h Street.
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
don't wanna look like a thicko or anything, because i didn't follow this case (or any similar cases either), but did Ian Huntley defo do it.?

maddy mccann is the first time i can think of one of these big cases where they've never found the culprit - the rest of the time they always get someone. Regardless. I often think the cops are told they have to get someone, if you don't get someone in 6 weeks then fit someone up. ..... like barry bulsara, colin stagg etc.
Report leazes67 • January 21, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
ffs^^^^^^
Report punterfleecer • January 21, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
Huntley did do it

he sh@t himself when he forgot to hide his mobile
Report naydam • January 21, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
4th Street. As nobody else replied, I will. He was guilty. The terror of the ordeal must have been truly horrific. It makes me weep to think of it. Better not knowing, pehaps. :-(
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 10:10 PM GMT
Honestly didn't read it or anything. might wiki it then.
Report positively4thsteet • January 21, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
as a mark of respect i am going to wait until lily the pink by scaffold has finished on youtube before reading the wiki link about the soham murders.
Report thelibertine • January 21, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
She also committed 20 benefit and fraud crimes, so she was/is not the poor soul some on here portray her as, but a cynical, conniving individual.
Report BillKiller • January 22, 2010 1:50 AM GMT
don't a lot of people clean their house?

She'd just got back from a boozy weekend putting it about and she started scrubbing the walls up to the ceiling.
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