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Nudger Daz
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Report Crisp77 • January 18, 2010 8:43 AM GMT
Belfast
Report Alex69 • January 18, 2010 8:44 AM GMT
Outside of London & Brighton (who have lots of foreign tourists/visitors/students), most of them, surely? What a strange question
Report DaveEdwards • January 18, 2010 9:00 AM GMT
I have heard that it is Ripley in Derbyshire. If you had ever been to the place you see why nobody wants to settle there.
Report selina • January 18, 2010 9:09 AM GMT
Alex69 18 Jan 09:44


Outside of London & Brighton (who have lots of foreign tourists/visitors/students), most of them, surely? What a strange question



It depends on how you define British - for example is someone who doesn't speak english as their main language, supports a non UK national team (ie not GB/UK/England/Scotland/Wales/N.Ireland) in sporting events and rejoices in hearing of terrorist actions against British citizens classed as British just because they happen to have a British Passport?
Report Child of the Rafalution • January 18, 2010 9:10 AM GMT
how many people do you think rejoice at terrorism of any sort? against any group of people?

racist whether u admit it or not
Report Cubanpete • January 18, 2010 9:10 AM GMT
York
Report selina • January 18, 2010 9:11 AM GMT
Child of the Rafalution 18 Jan 10:10


how many people do you think rejoice at terrorism of any sort? against any group of people?

racist whether u admit it or not



and how do you arrive at that conclusion?
Report aziraphale • January 18, 2010 9:11 AM GMT
Most of the British community in Cardiff are f^^king huge.
Report Child of the Rafalution • January 18, 2010 9:20 AM GMT
well what other conclusion am I to arrive at? there is im sure (and no I dont have a link) a minute population that would rejoice in terrorism. Your comment obv alludes to Muslims and their supposed anti west bias and hatred of all non muslims, celbration of 9/11 etc. I have never met in my entire life one single person who would condone terrorism. I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance
Report ninja22 • January 18, 2010 9:45 AM GMT
move to scotland,
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 9:53 AM GMT
If by British you mean an extra large percentage (95+) of the population are indigenous white, ask any leftie where he lives, and there's your town.

Simples.
Report spyker • January 18, 2010 9:55 AM GMT
All of them - they also may have large 'ethnic' communities (funny how this type of thread almost always abuses my mother tongue) but the 2 aren't mutually exclusive. HTH
Report what do i do now? • January 18, 2010 10:04 AM GMT
child of the rafalution - I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance.

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how would u know anything about wembley - u aint been in ages! and i cant see u going in the future!!!!!!

or maybe u asked an everton fan - they're more likely to know the lay of the land, around wembley way...
Report evski • January 18, 2010 10:05 AM GMT
Big Charlie, I think you just said that lefties live in affluent areas full of white people.
Report trader pj • January 18, 2010 10:07 AM GMT
Barnsley
Report Max and Paddy • January 18, 2010 10:11 AM GMT
child of the rafalution - I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance.

what do i do now? 18 Jan 11:04
how would u know anything about wembley - u aint been in ages! and i cant see u going in the future!!!!!!
or maybe u asked an everton fan - they're more likely to know the lay of the land, around wembley way...


:^0
Report Alex69 • January 18, 2010 10:11 AM GMT
Max in 'spotting mention of Everton on thread' shocker!
;)
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 10:25 AM GMT
evski 18 Jan 11:05
Big Charlie, I think you just said that lefties live in affluent areas full of white people.


Correct.
Report evski • January 18, 2010 10:28 AM GMT
Big Charlie, shirley you know this is a riddiculous statement.

This is an article about the supermarket closest to me, and I know you consider me a "leftie" :

http://www.thisisbusiness-eastmidlands.co.uk/news/Asian-fashion-city-supermarket/article-1407394-detail/article.html
Report Child of the Rafalution • January 18, 2010 10:29 AM GMT
child of the rafalution - I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance.

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how would u know anything about wembley - u aint been in ages! and i cant see u going in the future!!!!!!

or maybe u asked an everton fan - they're more likely to know the lay of the land, around wembley way...


I have no comeback :( can I perhaps pretend Im a big fan of Rafa Nadal? .... nope... no I cant. This was my second chat name, I thought I was being clever, combining a Pop culture reference with my (at the time) liking of Rafa. Hid*****for LFC imo!
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 10:45 AM GMT
evski

Nottingham is 76.5% white british, I just checked on wiki.

Not a town of the 95%+ I stated.

It's area is 28 sq. miles, holding a total population of 292,000

Newhams area is 14 square miles, half of Notinghams, the overall population is 250,000, only 33% are white, and that includes the eastern europeans.

There are loads of asian clothes shops.
Report DaMugPunter • January 18, 2010 10:49 AM GMT
Southall.
Report danniellasmincepies • January 18, 2010 11:00 AM GMT
DaveEdwards 18 Jan 10:00
I have heard that it is Ripley in Derbyshire.

Good call Dave, all around that area the towns between Nottm and Derby seem stronghold, Alfreton ( pronounced as" often "by locals ) and Ilkeston to mention two more .
Report evski • January 18, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
Charlie, given nottingham's high % of white how do you explain it's high levels of violent crime. You may also be interested to know that Nottingham has the worst truancy rates in the country.

btw, hyson Green, which is where I gave yo the link to, is no where near 76% white and is known to be notinghams biggest Asian area.

Basically, you made the bit up about "lefties" living in white areas, but can't admit it.
Report elise • January 18, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
evs, where did u check the ethnic stats, i live close to cirencester and i'd imagine it would be extremely high white %?
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 12:32 PM GMT
evski 18 Jan 12:05
Charlie, given nottingham's high % of white how do you explain it's high levels of violent crime. You may also be interested to know that Nottingham has the worst truancy rates in the country.

btw, hyson Green, which is where I gave yo the link to, is no where near 76% white and is known to be notinghams biggest Asian area
.

If you want to compare your whole town against one London Borough, Newham, you have 42,000 more people who may or may not be criminals .

Forumite 'sap' tried to tell me that Norwich (with virtually no immigrants - I didn't check as he said so) had more serious crime than Newham.

Norwich, and all those that live and work in it, total 394,000 iirc, that's 50% MORE people than Newham.

I posted the Norwich crime headlines from the local rag, and the Newham crime headlines from the local rag, all taken one hour after he posted about Norwich.

Sap lost his argument quite convincingly, but didn't return to the thread.

Newham 'won the title' as worse than Norwich in an absolute canter.

Fellow forumite 'Ghostdog' tried to defend 'sap', but as he hadn't read the entire thread, he also failed miserably.

And so will you if you try to compare the serious crime figures of Nottingham against Newham.

I wouldn't lay 1.01 Newham.
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 12:36 PM GMT
evski , i don't know if you know Nottingham but its high crime rate is not down to its whiteness (which it is not in the parts of Nottingham with a high crime rate)
Report dambuster • January 18, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
Towns with large british (you mean white) communities, find out the villages/towns where the labour MPs live ...they're the ones
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
maddimon, I live near bestwood and all the taxidrivers I speak to think that bestwood is the worst area, and that is almost totally white.

BC you are cherrypicking you info. I live in notts city and and the incidence of violent crime is 32/10000 compared to 31 in newham. Nottingham city, 288,000 people, is ranked 372/373 districts newham is 370/373.

YOu lose. :)

Well not really, cos you live somewhere nicer than me (almost impossible not to).

What you must also remember is that there are some cracking areas within nottingham city, I doubt this is the case in e13 (no real basis for that i spose)
Report selina • January 18, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
Child of the Rafalution 18 Jan 10:20


well what other conclusion am I to arrive at? there is im sure (and no I dont have a link) a minute population that would rejoice in terrorism. Your comment obv alludes to Muslims and their supposed anti west bias and hatred of all non muslims, celbration of 9/11 etc. I have never met in my entire life one single person who would condone terrorism. I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance


So by suggesting that being British (or any other nationality) could possibly be viewed as a "state of mind" rather than just having a british passport I am condemned as being a racist. Strange how you have somehow jumped from my mention of rejoicing in terror to me being anti muslim this is certainly not the case. I am however a nationlist (of sorts) and find it a very odd concept that people should wish to emigrate to a new country but then make little or no effort to integrate themselves into their new environment - and just to make this absolutely clear I am not just talking about muslims or this country in particular.
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
well as you probably know St Anns is the area most affedted by crime in Nottingham
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
No simon I don't know that. I know its rough and I would live there but it's no worse than bestwood.

roughly where you frmo, i thought you were from north notts?
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
Nottingham has a seemingly high crime rate for a number of reasons -one is St Anns and another is the fact that most of Nottingham's suburbs (middle class areas liek West Bridgford ,Beeston and Arnold) are not classed as Nottingham but nottighamshire
Report redbag • January 18, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
chichester..nap
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
If you include these suburbs the crime rate drops quite significantly
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
arnold is nottingham city, but you're right the other 2 aren't. ahving said that beeston has a pretty terrible council estate that is mostly white and I don't feel safe in beeston on a friday night. Not that I go there since 3 lads tried to kick the shyte out of me for nothing.
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
from Mansfield but moved now to West Bridgford
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
Arnold is Gedling.
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
also notts includes mapperly, mapperly park, the park, lenton, sherwood and particularly wollaton which are all quite nice. So don't pretend it's all ghetto.
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:12 PM GMT
course it is, I stand corrected.
Report orioles • January 18, 2010 1:12 PM GMT
Is there a glen?
Report Child of the Rafalution • January 18, 2010 1:14 PM GMT
selina - There is obviosuly a deal of interpretation that needs to be applied when viewing comments on a forum. I dont think it was a giant leap to assume their were racist overtones in your comments. That said perhaps they were born out of ignorance or lack of articulation. I certainly dont mean to brand you a racist off the bat and I do genuinely apologise should you feel I was in some way unfair, this was merely my interpretation and sadly I think more often than not I am correct.
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:14 PM GMT
no evski but compared to other cities it leaves off many of its more 'sedate ' suburbs and hence a distortion in crime rates
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:15 PM GMT
I've a bottle of glenfiddich, does that count.

Anyway where is charlie, I want to gloat that I won in the "who lives in the shyttest area" comp.
I want to see him eat humble pie.
Report Alex69 • January 18, 2010 1:15 PM GMT
Re: Selina's

So by suggesting that being British (or any other nationality) could possibly be viewed as a "state of mind" rather than just having a british passport I am condemned as being a racist. Strange how you have somehow jumped from my mention of rejoicing in terror to me being anti muslim this is certainly not the case. I am however a nationlist (of sorts) and find it a very odd concept that people should wish to emigrate to a new country but then make little or no effort to integrate themselves into their new environment - and just to make this absolutely clear I am not just talking about muslims or this country in particular post

What's your views on all the white Brits living en masse in Spanish holiday resorts?
Report orioles • January 18, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
So Robin Hood never went 'riding through the glen'? Bleedin' chancer!
Report selina • January 18, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
Child of the Rafalution - peace.
Report evski • January 18, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
Maybe there used to be a glen, now all there is is a Halfords, a macdonalds and a newly refurbished matalan.
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
Robin Hood also lives in Nottinghamshire as opposed to Nottingham but contributes to high crime within the Castle area of Nottingham when he does 'drive bys' with his gang of hoodies
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 1:19 PM GMT
Alas, the only people who steal money from the authorities in Nottingham now are icelanders
Report mitchell downie • January 18, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
good question, wherever the magic flea, sibaroni orioles and other lefties live will probably provide the answer.
Report superam • January 18, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
Ilson, enter at your peril
Report orioles • January 18, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
Sib? A leftie?

He's part of that traitorous legacy. PAH!
Report 04/09-04/10 another 100k • January 18, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
liverpool
doncaster
barnsley
Portmouth
wakefield
bristol
cardiff
scunthorpe
newcastle
sunderland
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
evski 18 Jan 14:01
BC you are cherrypicking you info

Am I feck.

I live in notts city and and the incidence of violent crime is 32/10000 compared to 31 in newham. Nottingham city, 288,000 people, is ranked 372/373 districts newham is 370/373.

I never stated incidents of crime, which means all crime, I said SERIOUS crime. Pick a date in the future so I don't get accused of cherrypicking :) but not Cheltenham week as I won't be here.

We'll copy the serious crime news headlines from the respective local rags, and let the forum decide which area is worst for serious crime.

Murders, shootings, stabbings, rapes, brutal muggings and big drug busts.

Not nicking milk off a milk float, spitting angrily at a motorist or a14 year old getting mugged for a phone in Bowthorpe Park, which was all Norwich could offer against 2 shootings, a stabbing and a mega value cocaine bust, just to mention a few that happened in the same week.

If anybody wants to lay Newham at evens in a two horse race to report more serious crime than Nottingham, he would get klilled in the rush by those who have lived there.

And there used to be 28 of us betfairians who USED to live there, counted in a survey in 2007.

Jamesofbeckton still lives there, but in Beckton I should think :) on the borders, and Pumphol works there in East Ham.

Somebody on politics works in Stratford, but I can't remember who it is.

That makes James on his own who will say it's okay to live there, against at least 27 who moved out.

Perhaps all 27 were racists and wanted to get away from the evil immigrants (along with 160,000 others in the last 30 years)
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
ttt
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
ttt
Report chatname • January 18, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
I also read an article about Ripley. It stated that it was the most English town in England and many / most people can trace their roots back many generations.

It is no coincidence that it is a place where community spirit has survived better than other areas that have witnessed more population change despite its traditional industries going to the wall (textiles/coal etc.).
Report Stan2 • January 18, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
Barnstaple
Report monmore man • January 18, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
Makes me laugh when someone can compare Nottingham to Newham. Nottingham is lovely in relation to Newham. Newham vs Nottingham is like Afganistan playing Switzerland.
Report evski • January 18, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
Ripley is a sh1thole, It's rough and the people are nasty. You wouldn't want to go in a pub if you don't know someone that is a local. Hardly the pargon of olde english culture you make it out to be.

BC you use stats until they don't support your arguement then you want to rely on the local rag as a form of objective assessment of an area. on todays papers its about equal, not that that means anything.
Why don't you just accept that the**bags in this country are froma ll races, and your beloved "indigenous" whites can be every bit as evil as any other race?
Report macarony • January 18, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
towns in britain with large british communitys


Carlisle and any town in the rest of Cumbria.
Report chatname • January 18, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
Why don't you just accept that the**bags in this country are froma ll races, and your beloved "indigenous" whites can be every bit as evil as any other race?

I never said otherwise.

There are plenty of pubs in Ripley where it is possible for a good night out even if you are not from the local area.
Report Vamos-mi-Sevilla • January 18, 2010 8:10 PM GMT
What is a British Community ?

A white one or one with British Muslims and British Islamic ?
Report good value losers • January 18, 2010 8:12 PM GMT
pmsl @ the fred title. can't decide if it's a fish or shokkingly sad
Report Coachbuster • January 18, 2010 8:39 PM GMT
whichever towns they are i can guarantee they will be the biggest shyteholes in the country .


places such as Skelmesdale etc come to mind
Report orioles • January 18, 2010 8:39 PM GMT
It is the apotheosis of the Chit Chat thread title, and yet also manages to express in a few words the crushing stupidity of the bonehead racists that pollute the Betfair fora.

Frankly, it is unalloyed genius! :)
Report Coachbuster • January 18, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
:D
Report macarony • January 18, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
Vamos-mi-Sevilla 18 Jan 21:10


What is a British Community ?

A white one or one with British Muslims and British Islamic

That depends on what or who you consider to be British.
Report chatname • January 18, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
yes given the thread title my answers refer to the question

towns in britain with large english communities
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
evski 18 Jan 20:13
BC you use stats until they don't support your arguement then you want to rely on the local rag as a form of objective assessment of an area. on todays papers its about equal, not that that means anything.

The stats come from the paper, where do you think I got them from ?

Why don't you just accept that the**bags in this country are froma ll races, and your beloved "indigenous" whites can be every bit as evil as any other race?


**bags are from all races - I never said they weren't.

In areas where there are loads of immigrants...sorry, non-whites.... pro rata, the non-whites commit more serious crime than the whites.

This is not cherrypicked, it is a stone cold 100% fact about Newham

And anybody who thinks that's a false statement can kiss my facking ringpiece.

=========================================

NEWHAM RECORDER - ON THE NET - NOW

A youth aged 17 was arrested yesterday morning and is currently in custody at a south London police station over the murder of Mahmood Jama,

Detectives are still appealing for witnesses and information after the murder in a block of flats at Forest Gate.

Police were called at approx. 01.10am on January 6 to reports of shots fired in the vicinity of Whyteville House, Upton Lane.

Mahmood 21, was found on the first floor landing, suffering a gunshot wound to the abdomen - he was taken to Royal London Hospital where he died at 03:44am

A post-mortem gave cause of death as a shotgun wound to the chest.

Detectives believe that an altercation took place between two groups of youths on a former garage forecourt in Studley Road at its junction with Upton Lane and continued into Whyteville House where the victim was shot.

Local people at the scene said the area had become populated by drug dealers and police are probing this line of inquiry.

Here's the link for the lefties that think I make these up.

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED17%20Jan%202010%2009%3A34%3A07%3A293
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POLICE have updated appeals following an attack on a mini-cab driver who was beaten by thieves who stole his vehicle.

The attack happened on October 17 last year in Tollgate Road, Beckton, at the junction with Stansfeld Road, just after 1am.

The mini-cab driver was taking a woman passenger he had collected in Whitechapel to Beckton, when he cab was surrounded by three men, one of whom got inside anmd attacked him. The minicab was driven off with the passenger inside, who was released unhurt.

In a report on our website last year, we incorrectly stated that the vehicle involved was a taxi.

It was not and we thank Mr Lee**lin for pointing out our error. We apologise for giving the wrong information. The vehicle was involved was a minicab and not a black taxi

LINK :

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED15%20Jan%202010%2011%3A05%3A15%3A740

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DETECTIVES tomorrow will revisit the scene in Beckton where two teenagers were stabbed to renew their appeal for information and witnesses.

Officers will be in and around Tollgate Road and Dove Approach from 7pm handing out appeal leaflets and speaking to the community to gain information.

It was at around 9pm on January 9 that police raced to a disturbance in the area of Neatscourt Road/Dove Approach and All Hallows Road.

In Osprey Close they discovered a 16-year-old boy suffering from stab injuries to the chest.

He was taken by ambulance to an east London hospital where his condition remains critical.

A second victim - a 15-year-old boy - was identified as having been stabbed in the leg during the same incident. He attended hospital but has since been discharged.

Police understand the victims had attended a party in Neatscourt Road. At some point a group of males arrived and a row began outside the address, spilling into surrounding streets and ending in the victims being stabbed.

The suspects, described as black teenagers like their victims, then made off.

At this stage police are keeping an open mind about the motive for the attack.

Detective Inspector Tony Lynes, from Newham police said: "This was a violent attack that has left a young man seriously injured. We are keen to speak to anyone who was in the area at the time and in particular at the party, which was attended by 60-plus people. If you saw or heard anything suspicious or have any information relating to this incident please come forward urgently."

LINK
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED15%20Jan%202010%2012%3A29%3A04%3A917
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A NEWHAM man is the alleged mastermind of a gang that stabbed a shop boss to death in a bungled raid.

The Old Bailey has heard Simeon Jumah, 25, of Eighth Avenue, Manor Park, was the ringleader behind the killing of Jamie Simpson, 33, who was knifed when the gang tried to steal takings from his store after closing time.

Jurors heard Mr Simpson had swapped his shift with another manager only the day before the attack in March 2008 at Matalan in Hackney.

The court was told a gang of seven robbers hoped to steal up to £30,000 in the raid. They included Mr Simpson's colleague, Matalan security guard Roy Williams, 31.

It is said he allowed three masked men to slip into the store just before it shut and wait for Mr Simpson to empty the tills by hiding in a stairwell.

Williams would have made fellow gang members aware of the change in personnel before the raid took place, it was said.

The shop manager was stabbed to death with a "fearsome" knife after "refusing to yield" when allegedly challenged by Kobina Essel, then 17.

The gang eventually fled with nothing, leaving Mr Simpson for dead.

The court heard Jumah and friend Jamal Chambers, 18, would have only arranged the four-man robbery team, which included a getaway driver, in the couple of days before the raid.

The court heard this was done in a series of calls and text messages between the men.

Mr Simpson's family wept in the courtroom as they were shown CCTV footage of him being attacked.

Jumah; Owusu; Maina; Williams, of Enfield; and Essel, Chambers and the 17-year-old, all from Poplar, all deny murder.

Williams, Chambers and Owusu also deny conspiracy to rob between December 1, 2007 and March 23, 2008.

Jumah, Essel, Maina and the teenager who cannot be named have admitted the charge. The trial continues

LINK

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED13%20Jan%202010%2009%3A28%3A07%3A163

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THREE teenagers - including one from Forest Gate - appeared at the Old Bailey to deny beating a homeless man to death.

Sami Bourjaoui, 24, was found suffering severe head injuries in White-chapel on Sept-ember 21.

He died later at the Royal London Hospital, White-chapel.

Nahid Ahed and Abu Tahir, both 19, and a 17-year-old, who cannot be named, denied one count of murder during a short hearing.

The trial, expected to last four weeks, will start on March 1.

Judge Timothy Pontius told the defendants they would remain in custody until then.

Tahir is from Romford Road, Forest Gate; the 17-year-old is from Whitechapel, and Ahed is from Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green

LINK

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED12%20Jan%202010%2017%3A21%3A13%3A723

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NOTTINGHAM NEWS - ON THE NET NOW

A MAN charged with the murders of Darran Lancashire and Brian Flaherty today appeared in court.

Peter Brown, 41, of Main Street, Kimberley, appeared before Nottingham Magistrates' Court charged with a total of 11 offences. He wore a white t-shirt and jogging bottoms.

The body of Mr Lancashire, 43, was found in a flat above the Post Office in Main Street, Kimberley, on January 6.

Mr Flaherty, 31, was found dead at a house in Derby Grove, Lenton, at around 6.30pm on January 12.

Post-mortem examinations revealed both men had been stabbed.

Brown has also been charged with five robberies, one attempted robbery, two assaults with intent to commit robbery, and one assault occasioning actual bodily harm, which occurred in the Kimberley, Arnold, and Netherfield areas on the December 31 and January 1.

Brown was remanded in custody and will appear via video link at Nottingham Crown Court on March 1

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FOUR men have been arrested in connection with a robbery at a Long Eaton Tesco's.

Police are holding the men on suspicion of conspiracy to commit robbery.

The incident happened at the store, in Cranfleet Way, last Thursday.

One of the offenders jumped over the counter and stole cash from the till after he threatened staff and customers.

Three of the men arrested are from Nottingham, Derbyshire police have said. Two are 44 and one is 40. The other man, 48, is from Long Eaton. Police investigating the crime have recovered a stolen car, with false number plates, in Cheviot Road in the town. Weapons have also been found.

Police would like to hear from anyone who saw the stolen car, a silver Citroen C4, any time between Wednesday January 13 and Sunday. It had damage to the front nearside wing and headlight.

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A MAN charged with the murder of a teenager who broke into his home has today appeared in court.

Omari Roberts, 23, of Heathfield Road, Old Basford, has been charged with the murder of Tyler Juett, 17, and with wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm to a 14-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons.

Roberts appeared at Nottingham Crown Court in front of Mr Justice Flaux.

The alleged offences happened on March 13 in Basford.

Tyler was found by paramedics at around 2pm on March 13 and died shortly after arriving at the QMC. A postmortem found that he died of a stab wound.

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A MAN wanted by police in connection with a hit-and-run flew back from Pakistan after he saw an online appeal on the Evening Post's website.

Mohammed Naveed Iqbal fled Nottingham within 48 hours of the incident because he said he had to plan his wedding in Pakistan. He did not return for 18 months,

Nottingham Crown Court heard yesterday he got married and stayed on, after he was due to fly back, because his uncle died.

Back in Nottingham nine men were sentenced at the crown court for violent disorder.

A 10th defendant, friend Majid Hussain, 29, of Ena Avenue, Sneinton, was locked up for 20 years after he was found guilty of attempted murder in relation to the fracas.

Hussain ran over pedestrian Christopher Willis in a Vauxhall Astra in Warser Gate.

The incident happened in the early hours of March 24, 2008, after trouble in a nightclub.

Hussain was also convicted of attempting to cause grievous bodily harm after he struck another man with the car and violent disorder.

It was only after they were sentenced in July last year that police issued an appeal to find Iqbal, and so he returned to face the music.

Detective Sergeant Mike Allen, officer in the case, was waiting for him at Birmingham Airport on Saturday, September 5, last year.

"When he was arrested, he had informed us that he knew he was wanted because he read of the fact on the Evening Post website and went so far as to joke that he didn't like the picture that we had released of him, which is ironic considering the seriousness of the matter he was facing.

"He realised his arrest was sought and decided to come back and face the music.

"The internet is a good medium to get the message to criminals that no matter where they are in the world the police, with the help of local authorities, will find them."

Iqbal, 28, of St Christopher Street, Sneinton, was sentenced to 13 months in prison yesterday after he admitted violent disorder.

He was part of the joint enterprise to look for the victims and went along with the idea that they should be taught a lesson.

Mr Justice Akenheadsaid: "You were involved to a limited extent from the telephone traffic that took place with co-ordination, namely before and after the incident."

Iqbal was a front seat passenger in a black Renault Clio that had been in convoy with the Astra in the area.

Mr Willis was attacked by others before he was run over.

Iqbal got out of the Clio but did not use any violence himself.

Andrew Easteal said in mitigation: "This simply wasn't the case of taking flight because he feared what would happen. He had already in place the plans to get married and did."

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I'd say Newham had the upper hand, even though it's been a relatively quiet week

This is where Ghostdog posts ' cnp -zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'

Such a shame that the cnp is all true. He'll be SEETHING :^0
Report baracouda30 • January 18, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
Fine, we've had the raw data.

Now, what is your analysis or conclusion?
Report jamesbeckton. • January 18, 2010 11:02 PM GMT
The people in Newham are British; they are just not white
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
My conclusion is that you should go back to politics and play with your mates.
Report baracouda30 • January 18, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
Oh come on BC, fact upon fact is no good without a conclusion. Otherwise, it's meaningless.

Come on, get it off yer chest.
Report Big Charlie • January 18, 2010 11:22 PM GMT
Read the thread
Report chicken shack • January 19, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
basingstoke,moved from hackney london due to poverty which will never change.poverty is the cause of all problems and if you have got more money ,you can sleep .
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 19, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
We'll copy the serious crime news headlines from the respective local rags, and let the forum decide which area is worst for serious crime.

Murders, shootings, stabbings, rapes, brutal muggings and big drug busts.

Not nicking milk off a milk float, spitting angrily at a motorist or a14 year old getting mugged for a phone in Bowthorpe Park, which was all Norwich could offer against 2 shootings, a stabbing and a mega value cocaine bust, just to mention a few that happened in the same week.



Nottingham ...or should i say Shottimgham is Gun Capital of the UK

Not Newham .. or even bleedin London
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 19, 2010 12:19 AM GMT
WORST PLACES FOR CRIMES
Vehicle crime: Nottingham
Rape: Portsmouth
Assault: Leicester
Burglary: Stockport
Robbery: Manchester
Gun crime: Bradford
Murder: Nottingham
Source: Reform report
Report crescit • January 19, 2010 12:32 AM GMT

Child of the Rafalution 18 Jan 10:20
well what other conclusion am I to arrive at? there is im sure (and no I dont have a link) a minute population that would rejoice in terrorism. Your comment obv alludes to Muslims and their supposed anti west bias and hatred of all non muslims, celbration of 9/11 etc. I have never met in my entire life one single person who would condone terrorism. I would say even in places such as wembley and other ethnic areas 99% of people were appalled by 9/11 and other such events. to such otherwise is gross ignorance


wembley & other ethnic areas? i know where you're coming from rafa but at the last count brent had 50% more hindus than muslims, the largest hindu temple in europe is just up the road..
Report Mc Moonbeam • January 19, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
ok maybe it's lost the Gun hotspot tag .. but by no means a nice quiet City

I just read that if London were divided into seperate Boroughs they'd only come 7th 9th 10th in comparison
Report RLKingPunter • January 19, 2010 1:02 AM GMT
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