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The Leopard
18 Jan 10 11:51
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/17/naked-rambler-terror-arrest

Last week saw a flagrant attack on civil liberty mounted in the name of peace. A man who likes to walk around with a rucksack was told that he may have to spend the rest of his life in prison.

The rucksack, in this case, was not the cause of this draconian warning. It contained no bombs, real or fake. The problem was what the man, Stephen Gough, wore underneath the backpack: nothing.

Gough is better known as the Naked Rambler, an ex-marine who has spent most of the past seven years trekking around the countryside in nothing more than a pair of hiking boots and a hat. The rest of that time he has spent in police stations, courts and prisons. He has been arrested on more than 20 occasions, nearly every time in Scotland.

Just before Christmas, he was released from Perth prison, having completed his second 12-month sentence for breaching the peace. The temperature was below zero and snow was on the ground. In the circumstances, anyone looking to take offence would have had need of a microscope.

It's believed that the policemen waiting for Gough outside the prison had no such equipment. Nevertheless, he was immediately rearrested.

It may come as a surprise to anyone who's spent a Saturday night in Glasgow, Edinburgh or any other British city to learn that Scotland's moral constitution is so delicate that it requires such zealous protection from the sight of Gough's frozen genitalia. In an age when underpants can be rigged with explosives, what peace does the pantless Gough breach?

Of course, the kind of people who carry incendiary devices in their underwear would have little time for the Naked Rambler. In the unlikely event that al-Qaida ever gained power, they'd come down on him like a ton of bricks. Literally. And that should give us pause for thought, because as things stand there's not nearly enough distance on this matter between the Scottish authorities and a bunch of religious fanatics.

What is it about Britain and nudity? Even in saunas we hold on to towels as though they were lifelines. Yet bare breasts are the wallpaper of tabloid culture, lap-dancing bars litter the nation's high streets and the most forensic pornography is available at the click of a mouse.

It's as though we can only accept nudity if it's sexualised. Nudity for nudity's sake well, that's deeply suspect. One commentator on radio suggested that children needed to be protected because Gough could be a paedophile, as though clothes were confirmation of a healthy sexuality.

Gough's behaviour is obviously unusual. But abnormal is not the same thing as criminal. While he has been adjudged to have broken the law, it's hard to see what crime he has committed. Any society that thinks prison is the correct place for him has lost grip of a basic principle of liberty. "Man is born free," wrote Rousseau, "but everywhere he is in chains."

In his own eccentric way, Stephen Gough has been trying to break those chains. He may be wrong, he may be misguided, but he's not evil. In treating him as though he were, the Scottish authorities have got their knickers in a twist. And that will prove far more damaging than not wearing any knickers at all.
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Report evski • January 18, 2010 12:05 PM GMT
12 months for not wearing clothes? My mate's bird was beaten up by her ex last year, he beat he so badly she was in hospital for a week and he broke 3 bones. He got 200 hours community service because of their kids. He has a record for violence stretchig back years.

What does it say about our society when we punish people for not wearing clothes worse than we punish people that will kick your head in for nothing?
Report Then Again • January 18, 2010 12:06 PM GMT
He may think he has the right to roam around b0llock naked but members of the public shirley have the right not to see his bits and bobs?

Proving a point to the height of absurdity....years in jail for what is a fairly harmless bloke but he should have enough brains to quit while he is losing.
Report Sica Dan • January 18, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
Just as well he was in jail for the last 3 weeks.
Report The Leopard • January 18, 2010 12:08 PM GMT
They don't have to look...
Report a bitofinterest • January 18, 2010 12:10 PM GMT
can't be much to see in this weather
Report madsimon • January 18, 2010 12:11 PM GMT
try as i might to care I really cannot be bothered what happens to him
Report Barry Conway • January 18, 2010 12:11 PM GMT
I've seen him once in Southampton. He was due in court. Quite a crowd had gathered to watch him as he arrived, stark naked.

Pervert.
Report a bitofinterest • January 18, 2010 12:12 PM GMT
barry queued for days to get a view :^0
Report Prima Donna • January 18, 2010 12:18 PM GMT
I think the police go too far with this man,I have a large woods and I know some people walk around in the nude,it does not bother me at all,my wife and I were riding in the wood one morning a coulpe of years ago,to come across a stark naked man just walking ,along the toe path,we jest said good morning and went on our way.
Mind you once near the same area my farm manager found a naked man in his twenties he was starkers nothing even on his feat,my man asked him what was he doing the reply was that he had been jogging but he'd got so hot he took off his clothes!He must of been VERY dedicated indeed.We all had a good laugh about it!
Report lmfao • January 18, 2010 12:22 PM GMT
evski


i'd get a new 'mate' if i were you- why go around with such lowlife?

as for the naked walker- society needs to grow up- breach of the peace for a stroll in the nude?
you gotta be joking!
Report evski • January 18, 2010 12:26 PM GMT
lmfao, my mate didn't beat his bird up, her ex did the job, again. yet again he wasn't locked up.

My mate is a bankrupcy officer and checked his record and he has over a dozen convictions for serious violent offences yet has never been given more than 18 months and that's only once. Bet if he gave her a line of coke he be away for 3 years.
Report The Leopard • January 18, 2010 12:29 PM GMT
Evski....is that legal for a Bankruptcy Officer to check a criminal record...?
Report evski • January 18, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
probably not. Is it imorral to do the checks you can on a man that has threatened you, beat your bird and that is a known nutter?
Report The Leopard • January 18, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
No...I don't blame you for checking..........is a B.O. a Bailiff in England...?
Report evski • January 18, 2010 12:36 PM GMT
no he does the paperwork office type stuff for the council. It isn't me, i could never be with a bird with kids and a mental ex, I'm too much of a wimp. :)
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