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Ovalman.
16 Jan 10 12:35
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Slarty, I downloaded a dodgy copy of all of Sagan's works via torrents including that book you mentioned. I'm 1/3rd of the way through it and can confirm that Sagan indeed is an atheist. He puts his views far better and more convincing than Dawking can.

Is there a way I could get a copy to you? Or if you want just google the torrent.
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Report slartybartfast. • January 16, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
cheers, oval

I'm sure I'll read it some time but at the moment I've not got the time. I'm not stuck on him being an agnostic rather than an atheist: there is evidence of both. I think the agnosticism may have been a late development.

http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Carl_Sagan
Report Zola's Back Heel • January 16, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
I dislike the term atheist.
Report Joe Jordan • January 16, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
oh you non-believer :-)
Report wur • January 16, 2010 1:07 PM GMT
Sagan was an infidel. Hope this clears things up. ;)
Report Zola's Back Heel • January 16, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
huh?
Report Ovalman. • January 16, 2010 1:10 PM GMT
I could count myself in the agnostic camp as I ultimately don't know the answer but I'd rather call myself an atheist until I see the evidence for a higher being. You cannot sit on the fence and call yourself an agnostic, you either sway into one camp or the other.
Report Ivor • January 16, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
The term atheist does what it says on the sin.
Report Zola's Back Heel • January 16, 2010 1:13 PM GMT
the prefix "a" has negative connotations. I prefer to refer to "theists" as suffreing from areason.
Report slartybartfast. • January 16, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
I'm more comfortable with the agnostc label, personally. It seems to me that thinking that you don't, and possibly can't, know ultimate truth is a more logical position than stating for sure that there is no "God/gods" (whatever they are!?). But, like East Anglians, they are highly inter-related.
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