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Re-enactments of genuine court cases at Inverary Jail courthouse (Scotland) from the official records held there ,
case of a 14 year old lad caught stealing an orange sentenced to 7 years penal servitude in Australia ...
Girl servant stole her Lady Employers Lace Handkerchief, 4 years penal servitude in Australia ..
Now THOSE were the days !!
case of a 14 year old lad caught stealing an orange sentenced to 7 years penal servitude in Australia ...
Girl servant stole her Lady Employers Lace Handkerchief, 4 years penal servitude in Australia ..
Now THOSE were the days !!
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......neighbours
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meanwhile once in Australia ..
if 2 convicts agreed to marry (one Male + one Female I might add---none of that shannigans in THOSE days ) and settle there .... then they could have a year knocked of their harsh sentences and have a piece of land to settle there ....sentences were mostly Hard Labour ...so a year off was a GOOD offer .. and a piece of land to build you own home on ...an even better offer ... |
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Life in Australia is sweet for many, but you've got to keep an eye on your oranges.
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not to mention your nuts
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The Governor based in Sydney had the right idea ..
One of the FIRST tasks the convicts had to perform was the following :- They had to chisel out square granite blocks from a hillside ,that made a cutting to the Top of the Hill behind Sydney .. These blocks were used to build A)..The Prisonn B)...The Governors House + Soldiers Barracks/Fort C)..A Pub with a Mini-Brwery attached . The convicts put their own identity mark on each block they made , The Governor inspected each block for flawlessness and a prisoner got 1 Day knocked off his sentence for each excellent block he produced .. The pub + mini-brewery are still there with the flawless square cut blocks ...on the top of the hill through the cutting behid "The Rocks " in Sydney.. Don't miss a visit to the Pub if you visit Sydney ...an easyy 10 minute walk (albeit uphill)... You learn something new on here every day :D :D |
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Strange how hard it is for societies to find some kind of happy medium -they seem to veer between the ridiculously extreme and the ridiculously lenient .
Granted -it is a philosophical challenge to identify what , in practice , this happy medium might be . |
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Joe Jordan 11 Jan 12:42
Re-enactments of genuine court cases at Inverary Jail courthouse (Scotland) from the official records held there , case of a 14 year old lad caught stealing an orange sentenced to 7 years penal servitude in Australia ... Girl servant stole her Lady Employers Lace Handkerchief, 4 years penal servitude in Australia .. Now THOSE were the days Now its the other way around ozzy that get caught stealing an orange, get sent to small overcrowded third world island,off the coast of mainland Europe. |
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Oh and the mini brewery ?
When they first got to Oz the Goovernor + Soldiers received Beer from England in Barrels , that took 6 weeks plus to arrive , and often " went off"..so they decided to import the ingredients and brew their own FRESH beer .. ;-) |
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The Lord Nelson ^^ thats the place :-)
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the blocks were sandstone . not granite ...
as I said , one learns something new every day :-) |
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From the Bridge , round circular quays to the Rocks , and up through the cut to Millrs point ...."A" on this google map :-
http://maps.google.com/maps?rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mini+brewery+the+rocks+sydney&fb=1&hq=mini+brewery+the+rocks&hnear=sydney&ei=iyBLS--4C5n20wTeuOXkAQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQtgMwAA |
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If you ever get hold of a copy of In The Penal Colony by Franz Kafka, soak it in petrol, light it and stand well back.
I was forced to endure this pile of sh!t for an exam, bad enough reading it but then had to dissect it and try to make sense of it.Aaargh. |
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To Brave Every Danger: The Epic Life of Mary Bryant of Fowey (1994)
by Judith Cook. A good yarn about transportation. |
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HGV ?
PSV ? Trains ? Planes ? |
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sparkmaster. 11 Jan 12:51
Life in Australia is sweet for many, but you've got to keep an eye on your oranges. Prima Donna 11 Jan 12:54 not to mention your nuts too true .............. Haddon's always whipping our batsmens ' bails off ! |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Rising
this was a chartist riot (1839) where 22 were killed from over a thousand who congregated on the Westgate Hotel where fellow chartists were being held. Of particular interest to me is the Welsh Oak ( my local where I grew up) where the rioters spent the last night before marching on Newport. Also one of the leaders, Zephaniah Williams, who had his death sentence [ hang, drawn and quartered ] commuted to transportation for life ............ became a mine owner and advertised for miners in South Wales ........ while researching my family tree I found an Australian lady advertising for info whose ancestor had gone out originally to work for Zephaniah Williams. Her ancestor and my great great grandfather had common grandparents [ perhaps I should rephrase that :) ] |
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advertised for miners from South Wales is perhaps better
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A few years ago I was looking through some old court cases in England in the 17thC,one case stood out to me,a young girl who was 14 years of age vanished from a local wood she was never seen again,the records show a man who was walking through the wood at the time,said he had seen the girl turn into a hare and run off.That was believed,and the man was free to go,I dont think the same outcome would happen today.
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surely he could have asked for clementinecy
was they oranged marraiges no seville ceremonies in those days bet they was scared being deported to jaffar away place on the ships the scottish lad was clamped to his mam, heared to say in dark is satsuma they were on a navel ship, after a years hard labour outside there skin was like leather, one prisoner heared saying to his future wife youve got a good tan there jean lol,eh eh !!!!!!!!!!! |
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How many years for a satsuma?
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10 but hes appealing it
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deportation was manderintary sentence back then
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you wouldn't have lasted long in England yorky :)
you would have been posting as queenie from Queensland |
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miss p xx
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Sounds like a citrus situation. I really don't think you should be taking the pith.
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lol, quality,very good
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If it happened in 2nd world war in Germany he might have been sentenced to the concentration camp.
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lol, eh eh, now we are rocking
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who caught him robert peel
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if he was caught in sixties Britain, would have been put in jug.
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keep em coming lads , when they were being put in the cells on arriving in oz, sargent said cells a and b are full captain, but we can fitamin C, lol
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how can you steal an orange? they grow on trees so ppl can eat em. menkle ah tellz ya.
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i bet he lost his zest for life though
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7 years your taking the pith
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