20q 70/80s QUIZ 7pm

Don't think so, la'

Hang on a bit ...he is El Grans brother after all ..

thanks dragon, missed most of it again but looked good :)

wp nirv, vul egs ;)

Quizzes need characters like El Gran tbf :^0

:D alex

Thanks for that btw Dragon.
Jolly good of you to step in.

my pleasure study some guys on herewith serious knowledge

This proves that googlers can't win quizzes....lol

[b]WE CAN REBUILD HIM-ROYS BACK...sorry guys power cut ,perfect timing!! shall reschedule for another time

jimmy69 08 Jan 20:40
This proves that googlers can't win fff/ easy quizzes....lol

[b]May do this on sunday

are you saying the quiz was to easy baggers?

Do i need to make them harder???

roy, don't forget gt is doing his handicap quiz at 7.45 tomorrow.

May do it mid/late afternoon as the football is pp

this quiz wasn't that easy imo.
keep your eye on the answering patterns and googlers are easy to spot - very quick correct answers sometimes and very slow correct answers at other times is very suspicious over the long term, damning i would say.
consistently slow correct answers as we saw tonight is also suspicious definitely, but i'll only be convinced when i see a few quick ones go in as well as they might just be slow refreshers and typers.

The Dragon 09 Jan 17:11


are you saying the quiz was to easy baggers?

Do i need to make them harder???

Drag, no what I meant is that googlers only score on hard questions, you had a very good mix

contrary to most quiz players it seems, i believe there are LOADS of googlers in these quizzes. I have looked closely at the patterns and I think i know who googles and who does not. i am not prepared to name those who i believe to google of course as, strong as the evidence is, there can never be genuine proof and I do not wish to falsely malign anyone.

i dont see how people get the time to google i tried it but was always too slow (out of interest)

also what is the point you are just deluding yourself.

i would hate to think that i was relegated last season over googling

makes you question the integrity of the leagues if you are right

i can usually google and answer before time up if i wanted to. have google open and ready in a new window and you can be quite quick about it.

ok bags i always wonder at what level to set the q,s

you dontwant to make them too easy so that everyone nows them

or too hard that everyone gives up

i always try to do a mix.

the prob is your own self judgement as im not as good as the top notch quizzers some of the q,s that i think are hard a lot of quizzers get them easily

im a slow typist munch maybe thats why

i nearly gave up[ the legue coz i kept getting beat on fff

3/20 skinners is the right mix

You could tell EGS last night was a googler and if you check back, I made my suspicions clear when asking people to google what came 2nd in the 1984 2000g

yes dragon. googlers would not type the questions into google of course. they copy and paste, hit search, and the answer is normally visible in the headlines of the first one or two posts. somebody found a way around this and it should be adopted for all quizzes on here imo. i have caught a few people out in the past in my quizzes by deliberately doctoring the questions so the google gives out the wrong answer.

thanks bags bit worrying in terms of the leagues if munch is right.

is there a way to stop it ? suppose not you have to rely on peoples inegrity

there is a way to stop it. somebody found an ingenious way where if you copied the question into google it came up as NO RESULTS FOUND. this should be implemented and a speedy time up enforced - this would stop the googlers in their tracks 100%

mmmm now you got me thinking i had assumed the tight time call would prevent googling :(

what are the runners of the quizzes views on this?

could that be implemented in the Leagues?

we've talked about this before and everybody kept saying 20 seconds time up would stop it. BUT THIS IS FAR TOO LONG. 10 seconds is plenty of time to answer, or guess an answer, imo.
I think I can google certain answers and reply in about 6 seconds.

Takes me 10 secs to read the question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did a quiz the other day and most answers appeared btwn 6 and 12 secs and I wss giving 20 secs

i think we've all thought it at some time munchie. tbh, i couldn't care less if somebody is googling - as has been mentioned it's both self-delusional and usually fairly obvious. let them get on with it.

it was redrich who posted 'google-proof' questions btw.

and gave the method to study to test

certain questions will take longer to answer of course dragon, but something like what is the capital of burkina faso? is easy to google. just copy and paste the question into google and the answer Ouagadougou instantly appears at the top of the page.

put a call out for Red then get his e-mail & someone from the powers that be can tell all the other quiz refs how questions can be worded to be google free.

Easteerr i care if they beat me through unfair means :(

redrich yes. that was the man. it was a very clever system and should be adopted for the quizzes imo.

munch man 09 Jan 17:47
we've talked about this before and everybody kept saying 20 seconds time up would stop it. BUT THIS IS FAR TOO LONG. 10 seconds is plenty of time to answer, or guess an answer, imo.
I think I can google certain answers and reply in about 6 seconds.


Like someone else said it takes me a few seconds to read a question, my typing speed is slow, not everyone is a dab hand on the keyboard !

gosh youve given me something to think about here munch. what is the point in competing on an uneven playfield..

My typing skills are always a disadvantage but if people can goole in that thime there is really no point in competing as i just cant beat em :(

Hi Drag.. munch and I have had this conversation before.. and I agree 100% with him. My view is that the quizzes are tremendous fun and I don't see why my enjoyment should be spoiled just because some people google. Like munch I have Deffo caught out quite a few googlers.. some very surprising!! :D .. and also like munch I don't see any point in naming names. Let 'em get on with it. I am a strictly amateur quizzerer. I get a lot of enjoyment from playing, whether I win (increasingly rare nowadays as I get older and slower) or come well down the field.

Bring 'em on! :D

I think you probably get one or two googlers on some quizzes, but they usually get tired and clear off.

I would be fairly certain none of the regular quizzers google. Some may indulge in copying from time to time.

As Easter said, let them get on with it.......all quizzes on here are a bit of fun and i'd rather come last (Which I do most of the time :D ) than win a few by googling.

RED WAS IN TOUCH WITH ADMIN Team 2 MONTHS AGO
ty.. :-)

By the time I googled, typed the answer and clicked on 'post' the scoreboard would be up with the next bastid question.

Googlers should be shot

Survivors should be shot again.

I too thought there was some use of google in last night's quiz.
For the life of me I can't understand why it goes on in quizzes like these which are for fun & are fun !

For slow typists there is no fun in fff questions as they struggle to get on the scoreboard

When hard Qs come up, some of them google.

Who are the Googlers ?

Get in there Gamsty
&
El Gran Senor

have most certainly googled in Quizzes I have seen..but are ther more high profile googlers?


I tend to be quick on the time up to try to keep googlers out on my quizzes

hello.
Yes - I would like a less googlable system. I'm certain some poeople do it, and I can't see why. It's quicker just to type dunno, imo.

Try googling these, from last night's quiz.....

What type οf vegetable flavours a 'Sauce Sοubise'?

and

What was the name οf the Pilgrim in Βunyan's Pilgrims prοgress?

Redrich showed me how to do this, and it can be incorporated into every quiz, (takes a little while, but stops the **s).

are any prem quizzers **s?

maybe your right Paddy , its just that im apretty competitive person (always have been)

It's hard to say, GT. Doubtful, but I have thought in the past that the occasional answer may have been gained by (Only 1 or 2 people) some outside assistance.

btw, I want it known I NEVER have and never would Google.

Now SF, you know the answer to that! :)

.... and i must add that you are the most definate non-googler the world has ever seen! :)

Thing is PM - I can't prove it, and while there's an element of doubt........

You googled 1 in my quiz Study,albeit about 4hrs later when betfair crashed.You were proved right and my q was wrong.

I think that's possibly acceptable, roy. :D

Of course

At this point I must admit to being guilt in the 'outside assistance' category. If i ever get an answer right on flowers (it has been known) or ballet (my partner's an ex ballet dancer) it's long odds on that Ann is sitting behind me.

On such occasions I always hold my hand up! :D

Thinly veiled 'My partner's flexible' post imo ^^

That was my only google-on my own quiz!!!

Paddy Mayne 09 Jan 18:57


On such occasions I always hold my hand up!


Sounds like its being at school in your house Paddy :D

Dan

I am an ex rugby , cricket, tennis player and decentish athlete. You would be hard pushed to tell by looking at me now tho! :)

paddy, i coulda been a footballer but i had a paper round... :)

Hi Pumps

Hope you're well. Bit of a long shot but you don't do RM Williams stuff do you? :)

tbf, I think we should all start getting paranoid about it.
BUT, it IS possible that a very few people might sometimes use the computer to get some answers.
Try googling the Q's I posted at 18.46 ^^^ .

I think this system should be used more often.
If it is going on, one or two people might play less, or not do quite so well.

i was a half decent cricketer

GT

Arthur was a very decent player. His nephew Charlie is banging a few in for Aberdeen at the mo. :)

No Paddy
Sorry m8
I dont touch menswear other than slippers :(

He always says that PM..... at first.

No worries pumps. Will have to treck out to Ilkley again then. :(

lol @ slippers.

I always thought that was a joke. :^0

Though a slow typer, no question should have more than 20-25 seconds unless it is a long read, I may miss time up on a few ocassions if it was quicker but it will stop the googling, your find its the 30-45 sec quizzes that googling sometimes occurs.

Dan
My nickname is slippers :D

Alex - 4 - 2 - 8 - 1 - 3 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1
Baggers - 2 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 7 - 2 - 2 - 7 - 3 - 4
blackbarn - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 10 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0
brngtwt - 0 - 9 - 7 - 10 - 8 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Chipshop - 0 - 7 - 0 - 0 - 6 - 9 - 12 - 4 - 1 - 5
Easter - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0
el gran senor - 0 - 0 - 0 - 7 - 11 - 13 - 11 - 14 - 0 -
GT - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 0 - 0
liamcol - 0 - 4 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 5 - 7 - 0 - 14 - 0
mad moon - 0 - 1 - 6 - 8 - 5 - 7 - 8 - 11 - 12 - 7
munch man - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 10 - 0 - 4 - 3
nirvana - 0 - 0 - 0 - 6 - 2 - 3 - 6 - 12 - 6 - 0
ovalman - 0 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 10 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 5 - 9
Paddy - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 9 - 13 - 12
plainjlazy - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 9 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0
reg varney - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 8 - 0 - 10 - 7 - 6
sixtwosix - 0 - 8 - 0 - 9 - 0 - 11 - 0 - 8 - 10 - 13
Study - 3 - 6 - 3 - 4 - 8 - 12 - 9 - 12 - 8 - 10
SuperSuper - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 5 - 5 - 11 - 8
yaboya - 0 - 1 - 0 - 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 9 - 2
Joe Jordan - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 11


The first 10 questions in this quiz

The numbers indicate where you answered.

If El Gran Senor wasm'tt googling I'm a facking dutchman.

Simple solution - let him waste his time playing

then at the end, delete his score and move everybody below him up one place.

intersting that Big

googlegate the movie coming soon :)

keep up with this exact scrutiny charlie, it WILL expose the googlers over a much larger sample by identifying quick correct answers and slow correct answers by the same person. 10 questions is too small a range though. from your sample it might just mean the person you mention is a slow typer/answerer. and if you could highlight the CORRECT answers in bold this would also be a very useful indicator.

i try and answer immediately i see the question , even if it means embarassing myself on occasions by putting a stupid answer. if i'm late with a correct answer it's usually because i was preoccupied with something else. obviously there are various reasons why people may be slower with their answers - connection, typing ability, lack of a 'refreshable' index finger - as long as they are consistent and don't always get the right answer (algeria was a peach, artemis arguably better) then i think it best to give the benefit of the doubt.


if any of the regulars are googlers i hope their pc blows up!

i'm convinced some of the regulars google

voodoo dolls utilised as we speak then munchie :)

el gran senor - 0 - 0 - 0 - 7 - 11 - 13 - 11 - 14 - 0 - 14



mad moon - 0 - 1 - 6 - 8 - 5 - 7 - 8 - 11 - 12 - 7
nirvana - 0 - 0 - 0 - 6 - 2 - 3 - 6 - 12 - 6 - 0
reg varney - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 8 - 0 - 10 - 7 - 6
Study - 3 - 6 - 3 - 4 - 8 - 12 - 9 - 12 - 8 - 10

I rushed that

name naMES munch and let them defend their position

nirv and mad moon surley not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only joking guys :D

You could be in danger of false accusation Munch- I take your point though.

For example, I know MMM very well - He is just very slow on the computer, he wouldn't be able to google if he wanted to.
Also, I often spend a few seconds thinking, for an answer which is on "The tip of my tongue", especially when I'm tired. So there will often be late correct answers. I can't be alone in this!

I would be astounded if any of the regular quizzers google. What's the point? These quizzes are supposed to be a bit of fun.

You're in danger of taking the fun out of the quizzes with this scientific analysis!! :0

In relation to last night's quiz, I had my mind elsewhere......hence I was last answering on a lot of them. Normally, if my laptop is running quick i'm in the first 3/4 all the time.

I'm with Jimmy, i'd be shocked if any of the regular 20/30 hardcore regular quizzes Google.

You are both fine fellows.. but you're wrong. If the 'redrich' method of quizzering was introduced my guess is you'd see vastly different scoring patterns.

But I agree with Dan re the 'spoiling the enjoyment' thing. Let's just get on with it! :)

Really PM. You suspect foul play somewhere along the line?

Maybe PM, I never look for it really and only spot the obvious ones.

Most of us don't google then :D

Ewe iz orl

REPORTED

I am usually one of the slowest to answer - a combination of a slow connection and poor typing speed.

This costs me points on a regular basis - do I also have to suffer being thought of as a googler?

I am pretty confident that the regular quizzers I play against are not googling, thiough I cannot be sure of course. There has been the odd occasion when I have been very suspicious, along with a lot of people, when 'guests' have produced late and correct answers on a regular basis.

Everyone who has seen me on these quizzes should know by now that I neither google or copy, and if they think I am, they can quite frankly go feck themselves!

If there is a wy to 'google-proof' the questions, I would be delighted - as I have nothing to fear.

Some newbies think we all google due to the tremndous knowledge found here on quizzes

I know there was some suspicion last year in the quiz leagues and would be all for the google proof questions

As a scorer, you get a feel for who is at it but I'm with the others guys, sometimes the question takes a bit of time to register or I'm each of two

As a general rule, I'm one of the 1st to answer a question but I am only 5km from the Betfair servers

Quizzes were fun about 4 or 5 years ago.

Last year a league was formed and it went haywire. Arguments, stewards enquires, committe meetings ffs, and in any quiz you get hardly any fun banter compared to the old quizzes.

If an Oxford educated genius got on here he'd be facked if he couldn't type fast.

These leagues are not fun for quite a few, and that's why some, mostly the slow typists, have dropped out.

Chatname is one who springs to mind who did it recently...

They still are fun Charles.. as long as we don't take them too seriously or worry too much about googlers! Really enjoyed your quiz the other night.. also poppy's and GTs rank very highly in my list of the highly enjoyable. But for me (and I must emphasize the ME aspect of this) the leagues have become a tad too serious. A lot of people put in a stupendous effort last year to bring it all to a conclusion and mostly the same people will be putting in similar levels of effort this season.

So good luck and much enjoyment to those who take part. I will play for fun where I can. Mostly losing. Coming up with some frankly ridiculous answers ( who can forget my garbled 'long leather boots' to the question:'What was US General Ambrose Burnside mainly remembered for?' :D ) but very occasionally pulling off a stunning victory against all odds !! :)

Good luck all and remember:

Googlers will be shot at dawn! :^0

i agree with paddy when he says a lot of you are fine fellows and don't google, but please don't shoot the messengers like me when we say some regulars google. I am sure it is a fact and rather than be in denial over it, it would be better for everyone imo if the problem was eradicated via this anti googling system and quick time ups.
i feel i am in a group of second string, but honest, quizzers who have been **ed by googlers in the past and would definitely win more had there been absolutely no googling present in some of them.