people who clear the snow from their path and that bit of pavement

i guess theyre doing it in blind hope that the rest of the street will get off their lazy bums and do the same

The sort that stone clad their houses imo.

Hose it off. Simple.

In some European countries it's compulsory to do this.

Have watched and mocked the three old fellas across the road doing this every morning
for the last two weeks, thinking to myself, why bother, its going to snow again tonight.
And thats why i now have a foot of snow round my house.
The older you get, the wiser you get.

you should go and shovel it all back on their drive in the night :)

I have :-)

It goes back to when people had pride in keeping their part of the street clean. It makes it easier to sweep the pavement. Something that today's generation simply wouldn't understand.

better to leave some snow to get a foot hold,if not you get a 1 micron thick sheet of black ice to land you on your @rse

If every lazy **er did it the pavements would be safe to walk on, you'd rather moan than do something about it, ya bunch of anti-social parasites.

well said arfur, i might see if i can get the old **er next door to do mine

To be fair, the people of yesteryear could then sprinkle cinders and ash on the pavement to give a safe surface. Can't do that with today's heating systems. :-(

to be fair the black ice thing is a good point. when im walking i walk on where hasnt been cleared of snow cos you just know if you go on the "clear" bits its like an ice rink.

Blimey, never thought of that. I have an open fire.

cunnybobbler 06 Jan 22:28
"i guess theyre doing it in blind hope that the rest of the street will get off their lazy bums and do the same"

which used to be the case

i rip radiators off my walls to use

Also, in this age of litigation if you clean your path and it freezes causing somebody to fall, they can sue you. If you leave the pavement 'untreated' then it is classed as 'an act of God' and you can't be sued.

i've just thrown a bucket of cold water outside the front of my gaff with some added vegatable oil ...and dropped a few banana skins for good measure

"naydam 06 Jan 22:49


Also, in this age of litigation if you clean your path and it freezes causing somebody to fall, they can sue you. If you leave the pavement 'untreated' then it is classed as 'an act of God' and you can't be sued."

What a load of **e.
Can you produce some evidence to back that up?

Not true-factual. Gritters can't fit onto pavements.

In my town, they fine you for not clearing. It is a good thing as some people travel only by the foot.

Studyform is right, well almost. In Scandanavia, if someone goes arse over in the snow on the public footpath outside your property and it hasn't been cleared they can claim against you for injury.

this isnt scandinavia its england. i suggest some of you bother to read the occupiers liability act(s).

I give you my idiot neighbour:

www.budfox.co.uk/idiot.jpg

invasion of privacy act - he'll Sue

No difference in law between roads and pavements as far as gritting is concerned. Councils grit roads to keep economic and social infrastructure going, and prioritise which roads they grit.-well that's what they claim.

have some pride in yr gaff, chaps.

i cleared my paths this morning at 06 hundred hours and have just returned indoors from red-leading my step.

Everything's Gone Green 06 Jan 22:32

Hose it off. Simple.

Have you tried this when it's minus 5, Egg?

I always do mine and the old lady's who lives across the road. She always makes me a brew( think she's glad of the chance for a chat) and usually a bag of Werthers.

regvarney 07 Jan 00:22
true, apparently that's why councils don't grit pavements

We don't have pavements, in this new town, only paths

a lot of paths get gritted, and a lot of paths are cleared of snow(creating potential slippery paths)

so some councils do, do it

Göring 07 Jan 13:04


Everything's Gone Green 06 Jan 22:32

Hose it off. Simple.

Have you tried this when it's minus 5, Egg?

he uses the HOT tap

that'll crack the path and pavement!

As a child we used to clear the whole street, and the ash from coal fires which was put in a separate bin used to grit the pavements.

In my youth in Scotland,people would clear the pavement in front of their house.I mentioned this yesterday ,whilst walking my dog, to a bloke who was clearing his driveway.He said they did likewise in Yorksire in his youth.

I think it's called 'social consciousness'.

Q

1) What would you rather walk on snow or an icy path?

2)What would you rather drive on, a foot of snow that will turn slippy as fook then go to mush or a snow cleared road?

A

1) snow

2)snow cleared road

The priorities for gritting are the roads as the paths dont need doing.

It is british leave them alone.

dont move the snow or you might have mr no win no fee after you

Klaus Kinski. There is no need to be verbally abusive. Fair enough, my understanding of the legal situation may be inaccurate. If so, I apologise for misinforming the forum.
I don't have any links to documentary proof. I just thought it was general knowledge.
I've been wrong many times before and, no doubt, many times yet to come.
However, I still think I may be close to correct in this case.

You can't be sued for clearing the path if someone then falls on it. That's a story originally started by someone who couldn't be arsed to clear his path. It's never happened.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

Please, everyone. They are not clearing the snow, only moving it from one place to another place.

It's perfectly true about being sued if you you salt you path and someone slips over.

I've heard of a case where a gardener was told not to clear up the berries that fall from a yew tree. If he did and someone slipped on the 'mush', the owner would be sued.

when the global warming people said we will be growing banana,s within 5 years in our gardens i planted some trees , they are now under 8 foot of snow can i send mr ather and co round to pay mr global warming a visit

Precedent on either please Injera.

http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/property/article3205122.ece

Your neighbours are therefore quite right to clear their own paths, but are taking a legal risk in clearing the public pavement - no matter how public-spirited their actions may seem.

^ Another legendary post ^

They insist on being able to get out and about every day even though they never leave the house for days on end when it is clear.

iamajambo 07 Jan 18:44
In my youth in Scotland,people would clear the pavement in front of their house.I mentioned this yesterday ,whilst walking my dog, to a bloke who was clearing his driveway.He said they did likewise in Yorksire in his youth.

I think it's called 'social consciousness'.


i think it's called "nothing better to do"

has it been snowing? ive been away in the korean jungle.

Haven't slipped over yet (famous last words) but the nearest I've come was on a bit of pavement that had been cleared.

All depends on the type of pavement underneath, I reckon.

If it's quite new and has a matt finish, then fine. If it's older and a bit shiny, then leave well alone.

Can't believe I've given it so much thought, really.

Give people hand and knee pads ffs and let 'em get around on all fours . Sorted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8443745.stm

Your own path, ie from gate to door can be cleared by you or not cleared by you, but your underlying duty is to make it safe for any person that may reasonably use it, (ie visitors that are expected). So if you clear, then keep clearing especially when it starts to ice over.

The public path is owned by the local authority, (usually), and it is their responsibility to clear. If you were to clear it, (which you are not precluded from doing), you could in theory be liable for causing a hazard or obstruction in another place depending on what you do with the snow. The premise that you can create a greater hazard with sheet ice and be sued for it is highly dubious. If you were actively trying to create this then maybe, but I would not like to foot the bill of the side bringing action.


Gritting is not extended to most pavements simply because you would have a machine firing at pedestrians and the practicallities of doing the operation. Most shops etc get gritted manually.

i have cleared and gritted the path from home to the pub. but no other **er has done anything of use.