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howardisawinker
06 Jan 10 06:52
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My wife and I are estranged, I'm hoping we could get back together but she has a boyfriend.
He doesn't live with her and I don't know much about him, I just see him now and then when I drop off our daughter, he seems ok.

Other than just wait it out (which obviously has no guarantees) has anybody got any suggestions as to how I could split them up? I'm not after anything illegal and I'm not the kind of person who would be taken seriously making threats anyway.

I was thinking of hiring someone to seduce him, but I don't know anything about where he goes etc, and not sure how my wife would ever see the evidence anyway

This is a serious question, has anyone got any suggestions?
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Report Gallivanter • January 6, 2010 8:38 AM GMT
Cast iron guaranteed she will leave him if she thinks he's a peadophile.

You haven't been reading the news in the past year, have you?
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 8:42 AM GMT
Why don't you seduce him and send your wife the pictures?
Report Child of the Rafalution • January 6, 2010 8:42 AM GMT
On reflection you do sound like a little weasle. You mention that she wouldnt believe you. If you had even the slightest remotest hint he was paedo then you confront him directly and her not make a timid suggestion. Anyways its just wishful thinking that this guy is anything but a decent chap. She sound sbetter off with him, daughter calling him 'daddy' by xmas 1.01
Report TD_Gunner • January 6, 2010 8:43 AM GMT
A pleasing thread.
Report duncan idaho • January 6, 2010 8:49 AM GMT
If you are serious, then go away and come back and read this thread with a clear head later.

Surely you will realise how f*cked up your thinking is.

Sad how the forum reflexly presumes the wife to be a skank, w*ore etc without any real knowledge of the circs involved.
Report orioles • January 6, 2010 8:50 AM GMT
That is the forum's view of women in general, I'm afraid.
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 8:56 AM GMT
Has your wife given even the slightest indication she would be interested in getting back together? Who implemented the split in the first place?

If the answers are "no" and "Her" then you sound on to a loser. From personal experinece, do not give your daughter even the slightest false hope you will be getting back together, as it can really mess kids up, unfortunately.
Report roger_moore • January 6, 2010 8:59 AM GMT
studyform, i actually spat my tea out when i read your reply... classic...
Report fuzzyone • January 6, 2010 9:00 AM GMT
Love your daughter with all your heart and move on with your life. Your wife has moved on and to think that this is just a phase that she is going through is folly imo.
Report sparkmaster. • January 6, 2010 9:53 AM GMT
Get him really drunk and bang him, it's your only option.
Report Barry Conway • January 6, 2010 10:00 AM GMT
Have you seen Mrs Doubtfire?
Report MrNibbs • January 6, 2010 10:10 AM GMT
Sounds to me like howard isn't all there. The elevator doesn't go all the way to the top, he isn't playing with a full set of cards and he is serious trouble one way or another.
Report Spirit Of My Weigh • January 6, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
Move on and get "next chick" innit!!

You are too inner and extra mi bredrin.

Don't bait next chick up, but show next gyal to your ex and see wa gwarning.

Seen and Peace.
Report Tevez is God • January 6, 2010 10:29 AM GMT
shoot him in the face a shocking omission :0
Report NSL • January 6, 2010 10:38 AM GMT
'She's only a girl'
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • January 6, 2010 10:49 AM GMT
How can I split up my wife and her boyfriend?

"A bucket of cold water" also a surprising omission imo.
Report The Dragon • January 6, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
its over get over itand move on
Report The Leopard • January 6, 2010 10:52 AM GMT
Sparkmaster.....you are not promoting rape as an option.....surely...
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 11:02 AM GMT
Lager Khan, we split when she **ed on me, she tried several times to get back together but i was an idiot and let pride get in the way. the guy she's with now is a different one, she seems reasonably happy with him and doesn't seem specially interested in me anymore, whereas now i've realised what i've lost i'm desperate to get my family back if i can
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 11:15 AM GMT
It's not easy, but it sounds like you need to reassess your future vision of playing happy families. I broke up with my ex (and mother of my 3 kids) for 6 months before we decided to give it another go, both probably primarily 'for the kids' if we were honest - which we weren't. After a few months, all the old problems resurfaced and we realised we'd made a mistake. Because it had happened once before, my son was hoping we would again get back together, and it hit him hard and took quite a few months to realise this wasn't going to happen.

Thankfully, the children are now happier as they live with a less stressed mother who can devote the time previously aimed at saving our relationship on to her children. They are also happier around me, although obviously I miss the day to day contact like mad. In short, just try and move on from her and build your relationship with your daughter, and try and keep things civil with her mother even if it means biting your lip once in a while.
Report The Dragon • January 6, 2010 11:16 AM GMT
sound advice from hh
Report The Dragon • January 6, 2010 11:17 AM GMT
hrh even :)
Report Richard LL • January 6, 2010 11:18 AM GMT
I don't see how splitting her up from her current BF would help, without sounding harsh, it sounds like she's rather** anybody in preference to you.
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 11:18 AM GMT
Yeah, well don't expect it to happen too often cos' it comes around about as often as Haley's Comet!
Report SIR DEREK TROTTER • January 6, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
get his mobile number and sign him up to loads of porn stuff, im sure she will start to ask who keeps texting u and u know the rest.
Report roger_moore • January 6, 2010 11:34 AM GMT
fact is howard, shes moved on, if she wanted u, she wouldnt be dating him...

sometimes its hard, but best to get on with your life..
Report Live Forever • January 6, 2010 11:42 AM GMT
Haven't read all the thread but please tell me that chit chat standards have not slipped so much that it has got this far without anyone suggesting that you get to know him well and start a frenzid **sexual affair, banishing all of his desires for wifey in favour of bi-weekly bumming sessions on an allotment
Report owl4life • January 6, 2010 11:44 AM GMT
Howard, a few questions

Did you do the halifax ads?
Do you think this man satisfies your wife in ways you never could?
Could you beat him up?
Report delz • January 6, 2010 11:49 AM GMT
He obviously holds more appeal. Case closed.
Report B.S • January 6, 2010 12:04 PM GMT
Just rest happily in the knowledge that if she **ed on you, she's bound to ** on the this fella too. Unfortunately tramps like this have infiltrated many a would be happy family unit.
They start logging on to social networking sites and see ''Chazza69'' and ''King Deano''smiling in some childish pose from the latest stag do from Blackpool for the lads from Manchester North Secondary class of 1989. Then suddenly she's meeting up with half of them on the sly and getting her back door smashed in. Be glad your rid of this gutter rat and move on.
Report DaveEdwards • January 6, 2010 12:16 PM GMT
OK,

Ask yourself why she was **ing in the first place?

Now moving on. If you still want her back, instead of plotting up some trick why not just make sure you are there when the new b/f isn't and tell her that you still love her and want her back. Get straight to it and be a man. Sneaking about trying to pull a silly trick? Have you any idea what an idiot you'll look if it all came out on top?

As for the threat of violence, it isn't likely to work. You can't do it yourself and so you'll need help. This would need paying for and again is highly likely to backfire on you when it comes out a few months later.

Tell her straight you want her back. If the answer is no, you'll be upset, dust yourself down and move on.
Report Johnny`Honk`Fartpants • January 6, 2010 12:18 PM GMT
:^0 BS.
Report Hearts.no1 • January 6, 2010 12:20 PM GMT
BS speaks from prior experiences methinks :p
Report duncan idaho • January 6, 2010 12:48 PM GMT
''and getting her back door smashed in. Be glad your rid of this gutter rat ''


B.S., it's you're rid of this gutter rat, not your ;)
Report Gallivanter • January 6, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
What days does she feed the ducks?
Report why? • January 6, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
wait until it starts on the maintenance script!!
Report Java • January 6, 2010 1:33 PM GMT
Genius post from B.S :D
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 1:42 PM GMT
maintenance etc is all sorted, she's actually a lot happier since she's been with him so she's stopped fighting me over access so i should be incredibly pleased. Original question still stands though! The best suggestion is hire a girlfriend I might do that!
Report coney • January 6, 2010 1:44 PM GMT
she has got 3 holes you know, maybe you can both just share them.

sounds like her *****might resemble a 20 quid ham sandwich so i'd book the other 2 holes if i were u and let him bash away at her big ham roll.

hth
Report statman99 • January 6, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
It sounds to me like you need to go round there and ring the doorbell with your old man in one hand and a jar of vaseline in the other.

Whoever opens the door, you immediately bang into next week, hence complicating their new cosy family unit.

Unles your daughter answers the door. If your daughter answers the door, make your excuses and leave.
Report clarkson • January 6, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
Chances are you wont get a real one, very sad thread, don't you want to know some left over turkey recipes or where Jamesblake's fat arse lives or something.?
Report logikal • January 6, 2010 1:46 PM GMT
Hire a girlfriend?
FFS why don't you just get a girlfriend you never know you might end up liking her more and she might not ** on you, plus you get all the benefits of a real gf.
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 1:49 PM GMT
howardisawinker 06 Jan 14:42

maintenance etc is all sorted, she's actually a lot happier since she's been with him so she's stopped fighting me over access so i should be incredibly pleased. Original question still stands though! The best suggestion is hire a girlfriend I might do that!


This man needs to get some, and quick imo.
Report Gallivanter • January 6, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
Hire a boyfriend, it will surprise her more.
Report Brodie • January 6, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
Sad how the forum reflexly presumes the wife to be a skank, w*ore etc without any real knowledge of the circs involved.



orioles 06 Jan 09:50
That is the forum's view of women in general, I'm afraid.

A few posts later and it was revealed that ,as ever, chitchat was correct and said woman is a **.
Never doubt chitchat, you can't fathom its propensity for knowing. ;)

Just joshing howard.
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
logikal 06 Jan 14:46


Hire a girlfriend?
FFS why don't you just get a girlfriend you never know you might end up liking her more and she might not ** on you, plus you get all the benefits of a real gf



Because I need a young, fit one at short notice
Report Hoss • January 6, 2010 2:23 PM GMT
Howard, she left you and you're down, your self esteem is at an all time low coz the woman you love is happy with another man, and every time you close your eyes you see her sucking his**. Every sentence you write screams it. While you're thinking like this you've got no chance in the world of getting her back. She won't respect any attempt or half baked scheme you have, to get her back, in fact your behaviour since the separation has probably made it clear to her that she can snap her fingers any time she wants and you'll come running.

If that is so, she will see straight through this escort hiring business.

Your only hope is to make a complete break if possible, hardly acknowledge her as you pick up your daughter. Be polite and aloof and leave her alone.

If she has any feelings left for you, it may rekindle but don't hold your breath, just learn how to live alone for a while.
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
Hoss, you're right, but I've got far more chance of it rekindling if she splits up with the bf, I still haven't really got a way to do that unfortunately
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 2:30 PM GMT
You need to stop obsessing about this woman and try and meet others, it's a big mental thing but actual physical contact with another will almost certainly change your view.(I'm guessing there has been no one since)
Report redhottupper1 • January 6, 2010 2:32 PM GMT
If she doesn't want you back now then i don't see why she would if you split her up with current boyfreind plus if she finds out it was you then you are 100% screwed instead of 90% Leave her alone.
Report Zola's Back Heel • January 6, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
when do we start talking about the ducks?
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 2:35 PM GMT
what about the ducks?
Report bigblobby • January 6, 2010 2:35 PM GMT
put condom in his car or coat seen it ruin many a relationship :)
Report Capt__F • January 6, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
turn up with ladycakes next time u drop round
Report logikal • January 6, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
Well to be honest mate its not going to be short notice getting back is it?
What are you wanting to happen she sees you with a bit of hot stuff then asks you to get back straight away? In which case you couldn't just pretend to dump the hired gf or ur wife will lose respect for you thinking she can just click her fingers.

If i was you i'd tell your wife straight that you've forgiven her and are willing to give it another go, say you know she's in a relationship but it took a lot of time for you to get over what she did to you. Say though you aren't going to wait around, if she still has feelings for you and wants something to work it probably will.

If she's not interested then just move on. It doesn't really matter about the bf as if she doesn't want to be with you ur just going to make her unhappy by splitting them up.

I'd only do this if you genuinely want her back though, and aren't just thinking you want her back as she seems to have moved on and are happy and you are not.
Report Wedged • January 6, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
NAVILLUS 06 Jan 09:11
just take the opportunity to apply for porn addressed to him at your wifes address, every advert, fill it in, obviously kinkier the better, S&M perhaps it will soon sort him out, make it a hobby with a £50 investment limit.
No violence just the pleasure of waking every morning knowing that the postman will call today !!, morally it keeps a lot of people employed until he gets chucked out.



Nah, she's well into that sort of stuff - at least when I was clattering her.
Report Easter 1916 • January 6, 2010 2:43 PM GMT
logikal taking his username too seriously for chitchat imo.
Report Easter 1916 • January 6, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
btw, gl whatever you do howard. personally, i'd shoot her in the face.
Report HRH The Lager Khan • January 6, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
He kept doing that Easter - that's why they broke up in the first place.
Report logikal • January 6, 2010 2:51 PM GMT
^ What with
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
Cheers Easter, I never in a million years thought I'd end up in this position - the whole thing not just her moving on
Report B.S • January 6, 2010 3:09 PM GMT
Howard, without being disrespectful you seem to be looking at the whole thing through rose tinted glasses. Never forget that this odious hag was cracking away with someone behind your back.

Whilst you were watching the x-factor with your daughter, she was claiming to be out with 'friends' yet was actually getting her sphincter torn apart.....probably by someone you know.

For every part of you that currently wishes to be back in her warm embrace, think of how you'd feel every time she waltzed out the door if you were back together, knowing the kiss on the cheek was the touch of a filthy lying Judas. Accept the waves of nausea that come with such thoughts and you'll be well on your way to leaving this loathsome tramp in the metaphorical cesspit she belongs.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
Report Big Charlie • January 6, 2010 3:13 PM GMT
Sh@g the wifes sister or best friend

She'll be back in 5 minutes.
Report TELL DEL • January 6, 2010 3:14 PM GMT
true story, and it was someone fairly well known in racing, a heavy drinker,
after leaving one of ex-wives for a much younger girl, she went to one of these people -
not sure what they would be called, but they deal with supernatual powers
to inflict harm or something terrible happening to a person or persons.

.......and he said it could be done......she says, "how long will it take ?"
"About 1 or 2 years."
She says, "Oh my God no, forget it, that is too long, she'll be fed up with him by then anyway !"
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
yes you're right, and she's not that happy after all- just rang me and got arsy on the phone. It's funny what jealousy can do to your mind. On the other hand, u can't help remembering the good times and in many ways she was great to be with - there is also our daughter of course
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • January 6, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
B.S. as usual your venomous diatribes sparkle, even if they're somewhat unsympathetic to the female of the species.
Report BillKiller • January 6, 2010 3:19 PM GMT
I've told you, get off with the actress. You might even get your money back.
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 6:20 PM GMT
any ideas from the evening forumites?
Report Gary Binosh • January 6, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
not from me, but ttt ;)
Report acg • January 6, 2010 7:44 PM GMT
I think the only way my friend is to emply the old fashioned honey trap.... but with a potent sting in the tail....

You need to find out more about the target..... Job, interests, where he drinks etc.... Go and hire a fit dolly bird (you will need to pay for this) to meet up with him at place of work, hobby or pub and go to work on him... She will need to flatter him provocatively, tell him how handsome he is, laugh at jokes whilst also make sexually suggestive chitter chatter....He is bound to fall for this and then just ask the girl to ensure that some photos are take of their sexual encounter.....

The arrange for the girl to meet the guy at a restaurant at a certain time and also drop an anonymous note to the ex telling her to be at restaurant at certain time because you believe that her fella may be **ing... Sign it from a female so as not to arouse suspicion.... Ensure that when she returns from seeing the guy with the girl that the lewd photos are waiting at home for her to twist in the knife.....

Then just pop round the day after with some flowers to see how things are going and that's job done..... Next question :-)
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 7:59 PM GMT
a good, straightforward reply acg, cheers!
trouble is i know absolutely nothing about him and it will probably take me months to find anything out. I'm favouring the hire a fit gf strategy at the moment, that would shake things up a bit and be reasonably easy to do!
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby • January 6, 2010 8:03 PM GMT
You could always just tell her how you feel deep inside.
Report Dobbo • January 6, 2010 8:04 PM GMT
Oh how chit-chatters love fantasy land.
The truth is if you can split them up with such trivial schemes they will split up in time anyway.
The stark truth is she doesn't want you back so get over it.
Report acg • January 6, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
is he on any of these social networking sites.... facebook etc??? i'm not personally but i know that you can find out loads about him on there if he is.... you could also setup a false female profile if he is and get to know him that way.... I know it's wrong but the course of true love never runs smooth.
Report delz • January 6, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
Stop watching those soaps.
Report Hearts.no1 • January 6, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
MOVE ON.
Report BurtSaddo. • January 6, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
forget the honey trap with a fit bird, you need to set him up with some dollop. You know the type, big @rse and greasy boilersuit. She'll think what crap taste he has and dump him straight away.
Report howardisawinker • January 6, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
cheers acg, i might do that once i get his name, might be a laugh
Report BIGNOSEDAVES SPROG • January 6, 2010 9:03 PM GMT
oh well this saying will cheer you up....you don't know what you've got 'till its gone :)
Report B.S • January 6, 2010 9:10 PM GMT
Howard, you will not find it a ''laugh'' trawling these social networking sites. You can be pretty certain that once you find pages linked to your riff-raff ex- wife, there will at the very least be tenuous innuendo insinuating what she has inevetiably been up to. In all probability there will be clear photographic evidence (as graphic as family sites allow)

It's never easy for a man to admit the mother of their child is only one step above a prostitute, but you really need to get a grip. You're chasing a woman who gleefully chomped away on another mans**whilst you were wistfully running her a bath in the vain hope she may return home on time. She probably even nicked the scented candles you bought for such occasions and shared them with one of her many other lovers.

It's easy to be facetious about these matters, but concentrate on educating your daughter. If the trailer trash gang banging machine that is the mother has her way then it may only be a couple of years before you become a grandfather, and I'm sure that's not what you want. Move on to pastures new.
Report Hearts.no1 • January 6, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
BS ffs so you've been dealt a bad hand with your choices of females but not everyone can be that unlucky !
Report B.S • January 6, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
You are not ''lucky'' if you are trying to win back a woman who **ed on you. That is foolish. Let me guess: ''It was just a one off'' ''A drunken mistake''
The husband and the child are at home, and a key part of what should be a solid family triumvirate leaves this environment to ** and lie to the ones they allegedly care for. These women are**, and social networking sites and bingo playing natter of the last decade has sadly fuelled their reprehensible behaviour. Howard should wake up.
Report Ronaldinho's dentist • January 6, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
excellent haul, must have sonar
Report BillKiller • January 6, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
I'm reserving judgment until Wolsey End has a crack.
Report MrBaboon • January 6, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
Go away for a month, ignore her and live it up in Vegas
Report expensive hobby • January 6, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
threaten to kill yourself unless she has you back - that will definately work
Report curious-cat • January 6, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
get in touch with someone from MI5
Report howardisawinker • January 7, 2010 9:01 AM GMT
ttt please
Report howardisawinker • January 7, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
well I saw her today and i think u guys are probably right, forget about her. I'll just be as good a dad as i can (always have been) and i'd rate the chances of her relationship lasting more than a year at about 50/50 anyway so time might help me out.
I did think we might have come up with something, but there ya go
Report Gallivanter • January 7, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
Get yourself sorted out with a good job, good home and a classy woman. Living well is the best revenge on your enemies so make sure she knows you're happy. Never, ever, take a woman back. Most of them aren't worth a first go and none of them are worth a second.
Report howardisawinker • January 8, 2010 7:35 AM GMT
cheers i know you're right, it's just incredibly hard losing your family - wife, kid, dogs, just like that.
Report CJ • January 8, 2010 8:43 AM GMT
Know exactly how tough it can be, i miss little Fido so much.
Report CUPRA • January 8, 2010 8:47 AM GMT
Has anyone on here done the old 'My wife ran off with my best friend. It hurts. I miss him so much' yet?
Report CJ • January 8, 2010 8:49 AM GMT
Not yet, but it can only enhance this thread.
Report The Leopard • January 8, 2010 9:00 AM GMT
Not read thread........why didn't you go for custody......I take it she had affair with 'family destroyer'.....?
Report howardisawinker • January 8, 2010 9:10 AM GMT
daughter is too young and I wouldn't have got custody, had a big battle just to get reasonable access.... didn't ever really want to split up family anyway!
Report Johnny Wad • January 8, 2010 9:30 AM GMT
hanging somone by their ankles from a motorway bridge usually makes them see reason ....
Report Kevin1958 • January 8, 2010 11:19 AM GMT
You could try not being such a pratt.
Report Robbie_Box • January 8, 2010 11:30 AM GMT
Is this pathetic sad bloke still keeping this Pathetic thread going.

WHO CARES
Report Kevin1958 • January 8, 2010 11:33 AM GMT
That's why his wife has a boyfriend.

FFS
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