would china dare execute a brit?

Do you think they would have lstened to the US government if it was yank caught with drugs then sub?

They hate the west, why do you think they eat dogs?

Just to spite us.

how the f*ck should i know positively? why don't you ask them yourself

seriously, what a stupid question positively :D

You referred to UK as irrelevant, and said of course china wouldn't listen to an irrelevant country. I presumed that you therefore meant that they would listen to a relevant country. I thought that might mean someone like usa.

If UK are an irrelevant country, who is a "relevant" country?

News 24 now...

The Leopard 29 Dec 10:54


subversion......what nationality are you...?

Well...?

The UK's finished, it's an old world country that the new world has no time for.

It's described in diplomatic circles as an old fart of a country that is getting smellier and smellier by the minute.

canaryboy 27 Dec 10:10
would be foolish imo

Oh dear canaryboy

not very worldly are you?

;) ;)

Canaryboy would be Seething with rage if he actually had an opinion.

He''ll be searching for the next issue with which to start a thread about to start an arguement which he adds nothing to.

One less low life, three cheers for China.

Back High Lay Low 29 Dec 11:16
The UK's finished, it's an old world country that the new world has no time for.

Have you seen the queue at Calais?

indeed tts. i like how when somebody mentioned most brits were pro-capital punishment that it was 'irrelevant' but he then cites the case of some bloke who killed his wife like that has any bearing on this case. just argues, unsuccessfully, for the sake of it.

BK, i was making reference to global political and diplomatic circles.
Once upon a time when the UK PM walked into a room other leaders would rush over to great them.

Now they just put a peg on their nose.

Splicer Keats 29 Dec 11:22

One less low life, three cheers for China.

One less person with a mental illness you mean? Uncle Adolf would be so proud.

About as mentally ill as the boy who hacked into the yanks computers, conveniently bi polar me thinks.

can I still bet on this?

Lefty clown, bara your the reason the death penalty would never work here, any nasty criminal would immediately become mentally ill.

1.01 Crims across the country get the mental diagnosis logged with their local GP early doors, never know when it will come in handy.

of course it was irrelevant easter

because what is being argued here is the man's mental state

not whether the death penalty is right or wrong in general

but please feel free to tell me different tho...

Not really. I just believe that mentally ill people might not be functioning in the same way as the rest of society, which means applying the same laws is ridiculous.

Yawn at the leftie luvvie PC comments. They reveal the paucity of your arguments.

If this guy was mentally ill (and like you I don't know) would you be in favour of killing him?

YES OR NO.

and the thread was whether they'd execute this mentally ill british man

then the usual racists hijacked it

as they always do...

Drug smuggling bi polar people are asing to die, especially in asian countries

suppose you think huntley was having a bad day when he killed the 2 litle girls then.

theres no reason for filth like this to keep breathing, hth.

Toop Toop 27 Dec 11:44
cb

You're wasting your time trying to promote a balanced view to the likes of Chaz and bb. They only do black n white daily mail esque kneejerk opinion.

indeed i was

Would Barry Bulsara and Colin Stagg be dead now if we had the death penalty in UK?

Yes but 92 other innocent people would still be alive, because of it.

We aren't talking about Huntley Mr Splicer.

As ever, when you start to lose an argument, think up the most far fetched sh1t and throw it and hope it will stick.

Now....IF this guy was mentally ill, would you be in favour of his execution?


YES OR NO.

yes, he is still a drug smuggler,, and being bi polar does not enable people to strap drugs to you without you knowing, if he was in such a state he would not have been able to function, never mind smuggle and record singles.

Easter 1916 29 Dec 11:23
indeed tts. i like how when somebody mentioned most brits were pro-capital punishment that it was 'irrelevant' but he then cites the case of some bloke who killed his wife like that has any bearing on this case.

of course it had a bearing

a person with an illness was found to be insane at the time of the incident due to illness

precisely the same thing which was argued in this case

so should ill people be executed?

never any evidence against bulsara, was a police fit up innit

Have you renewed your liberal democrat membership for 2010 ?

Its a new trend . Get yourself into trouble then suddenly develop a mental illness in an attempt to avoid justice.

Kill em and move on, mistakes happen, snakes eat people.

POlice can never be trusted imo. Even though dna is 100% or whatever reliable. Doesn't stop the police planting DNA.

a person with an illness was found to be insane at the time of the incident due to illness

He wasn't found to be insane. If he had been insane he would have been locked up in a mental hospital. He was found not guilty because no crime was committed. Just an unfortunate accident while he was asleep.

Theres something just not right here Asian man smuggling kilos of nasty......ppfff do me a favour

nasty regime that china

Police planting dna is more acceptable that a baddun get in off on a mental card to cause problems for genuine innocents.

Oh the irony if one of you ever finds yourself in a similar situation, safe in the knowledge that a gambling website forum are declaring you 'guilty'.

How sweet that would be!

Boycott Footballs

I go to the the shop buy a paper and a tin of beer. Big random mistake to finish up in china with drugs in my case.

Everyone knows China is the new USA, they have all the money, own all our debt, are expanding and growing whilst the developed world shrivels, they will do what they like, they have us by the b@lls and they know it, better get used toi doing as we are told.

This mental illness malarkay I don't really get. Anyone who goes around killing and raping and stuff is by and large mentally ill by definition. But the public have to be protected. There are certain crimes that you should get life meaning life for imo. But not death penalty.

I don't really believe that people are born evil, they're pretty much a function of their upbringing and surroundings etc. The aims of the criminal justice system should be the following in this order imo:

1 Protect the Public
2 Deterrent
3 Punishment
4 Rehabilitation

jenny came back from hunting with her cubs, only to find her mate harry having sex with a male bear.
"what the fck are you doing harry?!" screamed jenny
"i can't help it" said harry, "i'm a bi-polar bear".
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i'll just get my coat :|

He wasn't found to be insane.

correct

he wasn't even assessed

which is kinda the problem...

1 Protect the Public
2 Deterrent
3 Punishment
4 Rehabilitation

Almost right. Take 3 out. Punishment is basically just revenge, which the state shouldn't really be sanctioning. In any case the deterrent part will in most cases be severe enough to satisfy those who want the convicted to be punished.

i know what you mean history. punishment = revenge. Why would I (or the state) want to punish someone who has murdered someone I don't even know.

Is a funny one, not sure where I stand on that.

200 posts in, it's a bit late for someone to start being rational!

Take 4 out. Not interested with my taxes thanksvery much. my experiences is it yields poor return on money invested so far.

There you go!

i'm against the death penalty, canary. quite rightly we don't have to worry about it over here. they deal with stuff differently in other countries though and if you transgress you're at the mercy of less tolerant judicial systems than our own. no point saying what would happen here as he wasn't tried here.

incidentally,while i haven't really been following this, i understand the chinese don't accept that he was mentally ill. i'm not saying they are right, of course.

too many liberal tree huggers in this country now. if you go to another country you abide by thier laws and be punished accordingly if you break the law. the worst thing this country done was to stop birching people for offences

Agreed, but not in the case of people who are mentally ill surely?

i'm curious, if you had a relative (father, uncle, brother etc) who was mentally ill to the point where he was dissociated with reality, would you be letting them travel alone to strange and unusual places? and then, when he gets arrested for a crime for which the penalty is death, make no contact for 2 years?

the whole thing beggars belief

well yes easter, i know they do things differently there, i was just making the point that certain justices take illness as a mitigating circumstance. something i agree with. i also believe this man should have had a proper assessment. the way he has reportedly behaved in the lead up to the smuggling is cause for concern imo.

So the British government made 12 appeals for clemency but were remiss enough not to send over the mans medical records which wouldve shown a medical condition.......tut tut

and there is a point about saying what would happen here, because it doesn't mean that what happens elsewhere is right and should be accepted

an extreme i know, but we don't just accept what the nazis did because that's the way their government chose to behave.

well i'd obviously agree with that.

not sure how easy it is to stop them sixofclubs. Youcan't put a family member under house arrest. And unless the gov't send them to the nuthouse, they can't either.

lol, your previous post i mean.

Is that true?

lol to bertie

if a loony goes on a kiddie raping and murder spree then millions of people are baying for his blood, yet if a loony smuggles drugs then it wasnt his fault and he should be let off. how does that work?

cunnybobbler 29 Dec 12:23
if a loony goes on a kiddie raping and murder spree then millions of people are baying for his blood, yet if a loony smuggles drugs then it wasnt his fault and he should be let off

the same lilly luvvies will not have the death sentence on any of them

:0 :0

Just happy that the terrorist group Reprieve did not get this filth off, I'm still getting over that other fitlhy animal from Nigeria (she has a british passport) getting away with a bullet to the back of the head.

Are british passport's for sale in tesco? seems like every**bag has one.

first one is a danger to public, should be locked up for life imo no chance of parole, only released if you can prove he is innocent.

second one i'm not really sure tbh.

Just happy that the terrorist group Reprieve did not get this filth off, I'm still getting over that other fitlhy animal from Nigeria (she has a british passport) getting away with a bullet to the back of the head.

Are british passport's for sale in tesco? seems like every**bag has one.

You're kidding right? You can argue that they're misguided liberals, but terrorists? They'll fight to get anyone with a British passport or residency off the death penalty anywhere in the world, regardless of the circumstances because they are emphatically against the death penalty.

You're kidding right? You can argue that they're misguided liberals, but terrorists? They'll fight to get anyone with a British passport or residency off the death penalty anywhere in the world, regardless of the circumstances because they are emphatically against the death penalty.

not convinced

Just like Amnesty Intentional do not campaign against some EU nations in locking people up for many years for debating History. They will only defend if it is in their interests to do so

;) ;)

Winks and all Iwantyourmoney, those laws are ridiculous. Jailing people for being nothing more than conspiracy theorists is manna from heaven for, well, conspiracy theorists.

Just like Amnesty Intentional do not campaign against some EU nations in locking people up for many years for debating History.

Good point, well made!

(I like the intentional part too.)

'debating history'.

LOL. You mean racists motivated by their racism falsifying evidence in order to fit their warped agendas?

Don't believe me?

David Irving sued Penguin. Unfortunately fabricating your bibliography doesn't look too good in a proper court of law. He lost.

Amnesty don't waste their money on people like that. Good for them!

how 'British' was he ??

baracouda30

oh dear

so AI do not support all political prisioners?

thought so

:( :(

You are getting wasted on this forum and on the politics one

why do you not give up?

:D

baracouda30 29 Dec 11:36
Not really. I just believe that mentally ill people might not be functioning in the same way as the rest of society, which means applying the same laws is ridiculous.

What if the victim of a rape/murder is mentally deficient.

Should we hang the rapist/killer then ?

On a general point, why do right wing loonies/bigots struggle with the correct use of apostrophes? It seems to be an ongoing theme on here.

why do luvvies insist on letting of drug smuggling**bags?

Do they like Chinese children to die from drugs?

:( :(

do answer the original question.

YES THEY WOULD DARE EXECUTE A BRIT

and quite rightly IMO, regardless of nationality its the right thing to do

Go to your local chinese tonight, eat well, congratulate them for their moral stance and leave a big tip.

Wh should China does not compromise it's laws, it's zero tolerance policy on drugs is why the pushers all come here to deal their drugs where if they get caught it's a slap on the wrist and a ticking off instead of death.

was he a Brit?? if a dogs born in a stable it doesnt make it a fkin hoss

bertiesmalls69 29 Dec 13:44

was he a Brit?? if a dogs born in a stable it doesnt make it a fkin hoss

The eternal cry of the terminally witless thick and ignorant.

as english as keema naan

baracouda30 29 Dec 11:36
Not really. I just believe that mentally ill people might not be functioning in the same way as the rest of society, which means applying the same laws is ridiculous.

What if the victim of a rape/murder is mentally deficient.

Should we hang the rapist/killer then ?

Ill show you a nifty for every quid youve got Bara thats how thick n ignorant I am

he wasnt really a Brit tho - was he

Norman Tebbit had it spot on "wait till the crickets on THEN ask them who they support"

If money equalled intelligence I'm sure you'd be an Oxford Professor.

But it doesn't and you write ignorant as pig sh1t stuff then I'll believe you to be ignorant as pig sh1t.

He was caught with 4kg of heroin. End of story

He knew what the penalty was if he was caught (or he at least had the opurtunitty to find out) and made the consious decision to still smuggle drugs.

Where is the evidence of his mental illness-noboy has actually come forward with any to my knowledge- so lets see it?

It seems like the bipolar illness has been overplayed to try getting him off.

China's stuck by their rules and principles-its just a shame we dont have similar methods of dealing with such people imo.

Why has nobody put the question to the family of why he was allowed to travel to china if they knew he was mentally unbalanced?

Yeah, the cricket test.

One for the big brains that was!

Baracouda asked to be excused hes going round extinguishing all his candles.....

My sister was born in Australia and lives in Australia and has an aussie passport.

She still supports England :)

Does she run heroin as well P4THE STREET?

no

A good un in our evening rag day b4 crimbo a poor unsuspecting trader of you got it Asian origin travelled to our region with some CDs for sale only for some nasty bad druggy dealers to force him to return to Bradford escorting a key of the nasty stuff....theyre dead unlucky these boyos

The cricket test!

You couldn't make it up. Yes, you see, you deduce someone's loyalty to the country by asking them who they support at cricket. No seriously.

Problem ; when you ask a Scots Guardsman who has just come back from Iraq that question, and he says 'Scotland', what do you do then?

finished puffing all youre candles out for the Asian drugs mule Bara?? jog on chor nothing to see here....

Is Scotland not in Britain, then?

Just ordered a number 46 from the local Chinese in support of China.