Top 100 non-tragic tragedies

the new enzyme detergent demise of ali mcgraw (in love story)

Macbeth

Macbeths dead??!!!

Joe No 2

norwich getting relegated

Titanic, the film, I suppose the real thing was a bit tragic.

Drug related death of Brittany Murphy

Your source please?

All I've read is that they believe it be natural causes but the results of toxology tests won't be known for several weeks.

apparently she used prescription drugs

same as heath ledger

Now now MOMM, let's not allow facts to stand in the way of the need to be unpleasant about the recently deceased for no reason greater then spite and bitterness.

Sparkys local off licences and supermarkets running out of beer before he got there.

Why would anyone be spiteful or bitter about the death of this actress?
I didn't know her.Some have just commented that it's not something to get too upset about that's all.
It is unusual though that these apparently healthy young people should die in this manner,without having been involved in drug taking don't you think.

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Some have just commented that it's not something to get too upset about that's all.

who exactly was getting 'too upset' about it?

CB
Nobody said that anyone had got too upset about it.
I just said that it's not something to get too upset about.
There is a difference.
I would have thought that was there was a chance of some getting upset about this death though,as according to you this was a tragic death.
If a man can't get upset over a tragic death then what can he get upset over?

Young people die all the time. It doesnt have to be drug related.

Nobody said that anyone had got too upset about it.
I just said that it's not something to get too upset about.

nope you had a go at 2 forumites and said they were only saying what they said because it was a celeb

Gene Hackman 22 Dec 10:13
You miss the point CB.
These people wouldn't post here about a genuine tragedy but are quite happy to post about a "celebrity" death.

canaryboy 22 Dec 12:37
Nobody said that anyone had got too upset about it.
I just said that it's not something to get too upset about.

nope you had a go at 2 forumites and said they were only saying what they said because it was a celeb

CB
We can end up playing a game of semantic tennis here.

You will agree,I'm sure, that over the last 10 or 15 years that the standing of "celebrities" has changed in the public eye,and the reaction to their deaths has also changed.It's just a way of the modern world and some people are more prone to falling for the celebity thing than others.

well i can't say i'm that aware of how celeb deaths were treated over 15 years ago as quite young

but i've seen the reactions to deaths like jfk, elvis and lennon, and can't say that portrayed anything massively different to what we see today

CB
The 3 deaths you mentioned are instantly recognisable names.They were genuine big name deaths.
These days even little known actresses get coverage.
Around here in Rugby League country I swear the clubs must scour the papers looking for the deaths of anyone that has had any connection with the club over the last 50 years,just so they can have a minutes silence.
It is the modern way of showing how wonderful you are.

hardly little known imo

and i wouldn't use a sample of mainly middle aged lonely gamblers to conduct any survey

btw didn't someone like widnes or warrington have a load of deaths with close connection to the club recently

a bit like motherwell i suppose

hardly scouring for it imo

and you seem to think that showing respect is somehow done to show off

how bizarre

So you think that coming on a betting forum and saying how tragic it is that someone you don't know has died is showing respect?

How very bizarre.

not at all

i was responding to your comment about minutes silences at the rugby

thought it was fairly obvious...

i'd actually say it's called being objective

two minutes silence is the real mark of respect these days. or is it a minutes applause? i can never keep up.

You pay respect to people who've earned it or who you know much about ( characterwise etc. )
Paying respect to celebs because they are celebs and calling their deaths tragic, cheapens respect.
For all you know the 2 celebs mentioned on this thread could have been terrible people once you knew them.
To knee-jerk condolences and respect and call things tragic is a 'look at me' vibe, imo
Once you start saying a stranger's death is tragic where do you go from there? What about when a family member dies ,is that calleds a super-tragedy to clarify that we feel that that one is worse?
There is nothing wrong with apathy , otherwise you'll end up as a blubbing mess when the shopkeeper says there are no mars bars left.

Brodie understands it too.
There was a game earlier this year when RU players wore black armbands because the Grandmother of one of the physio's had died.
Where does it end?

being objective by calling a death tragic is not respect

it's pretty much impossible to respect a passing on an internet forum imo

i mean, it's an internet forum ffs

saying it's tragic is just meaningless then?

and who ranks deaths anyway?

do people honestly compare them?

why would you do that when they're totally unrelated events

Was the tragic death of Brittany drugs related then?

no it's being objective

like if someone says the weather has been a bit severe lately

now if someone starts saying it has affected them deeply you should probably start worrying

people do compare them though. like when wacko snuffed it all the media were saying it's the biggest outpouring of grief since that strumpet lady di bought hers. you even started a thread along similar lines i believe , yeller.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8426065.stm

yeah that's comparing the public reaction not the actual death!

of course there will be a correlation between fame and reaction

a bit severe? wtf does that mean?

your point was about ranking deaths in ways like super tragic

that has absolutely nothing to do with the size of public reaction

2 completely different things

ice, snow, travel disruption etc

you are cheapening the actual meaning of the words you are using.
It's simple, don't say something is a tragedy when it isn't.
Sparrow dies ,its tragic, Dad dies ,its tragic.
Dad dying is as tragic as a sparrow dying.
Nonsense.
Therefore don't use the word tragic, imo.
Melodramatic hogwash.

its either severe or it isn't. bit severe is bowlocks ,imo

wtf so you can't use a common word because it has to be reserved for family members?

pmsl

so someone like baby p didn't die tragically then?

trag·ic (trjk)
adj.
1. Relating to or characteristic of dramatic tragedy or tragedies: tragic plays; the tragic hero.
2. Writing or performing in tragedy: a tragic poet.
3. Having the elements of tragedy; involving death, grief, or destruction: a tragic accident.

nowhere does it say it must only be used when talking about mum or dad dying etc

My use of the sparrow /dad comparison in talking about a tragedy is to illustrate the disparity in 2 events that some people could call tragic ( animal lovers) that obviously are not on the same level.
Much like you, a stranger to a celeb, calling her death a tragedy.
You don't analogies I've noticed in that past.

don't get *

yes a 32 year old girl with great talent dying is a tragedy

why should i not be able to recognise that on a human level?

Did the Greeks realise what they were starting with their plays? and come to that Was Willie Shakespeare really think his ''tragedies'' were tragic ?

the problem with your attempt at an analogy is that it made no sense

never in my entire life have i heard anyone call the death of a sparrow tragic

animal lover or otherwise

you've basically just made that up

You can cb, grieve away.
To me she is the sparrow or something in between sparrow/dad
I don't agree its a tragedy is all.
No biggie.

Not was but DID ^

Yes I made the analogy up! To emphasise what irrelevences people will call tragic! Anyway, lets just agree to disagree as usual, ofah is on ,didn't realise.

i'm not grieving at all

i've already stated i felt no sadness

but as a human being i can recognise it as tragic

but how can you emphasise what people call tragic when they don't?

lol

well i need to get some kip anyway

enjoy

CB
I think you using the phrase "great talent" about an actress that most of us had never heard of,and who has,by all accounts,a very limited career in that profession,belies your attitude to "celebrities" and their lives.
You seem in thrall to such persons.I suspect that you are under 30 and have grown up with this celebrity dominated culture.You are a modern victim of a very modern phenomenen.

lolling on a tragic day like this. poor form

i don't thrall in them at all

and i'm over 30

also, her imdb page doesn't exactly suggest a limited career

nor do i watch reality tv

in fact i find it pointless

which would be a bit odd for someone who loves celeb culture