RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE LOOK TO HAVE DONE IT! - insiders?

Two Little Boys is a brilliant song imo

Today i have listened to

Blood red Shoes
Hooverphonic
Emilie simon
dragonette
Lamb
flunk
Supreme beings of leisure
1984 (French band)

The ones of those I've heard of are pretty sh1t to be honest.

Try listening to Kanał Audytywny.

Mind broadening powerful vibes.

Is it true Cowell has just said

" I really wanted the last no 1 of the decade" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there a chart on the 27th?

he probably said I want every number 1 of the decade.

How can so many people give a ** who is number 1 and like rage against the machine at the same time!? Mugs, they is muggs.

Indeed

Not sure they would usually but it was great fun ruining the xfactor dominance in principle and the annoyance of all concerned including those that are clearly not interested in the whole event despite clicking on the thread regardless and consistentl passing comment on it
has been quite a bonus for all that briefly took the time to pay for the privelage. :)

Yay well done RATM. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals. You are true individuals.
Ad infinitum or at whatever point you stop being really individual.

for those without subtitles slimfast was saying "I'm not seething, I'm not seething, I'm not seething "


still they come - couldn't make it up

Brentford this is a forum. Where people express their points of view.

Your point seems to be that they shouldn't be doing that? Or do i misunderstand..?

There seems to be a lot of SEETHING against the machine about.

I didn't participate myself, but it's been fun to watch the usual suspect get stuffed, and nice to know it raised some money for charity.

presumably you do.

People expressed a view by buying the download as well but apparently that opinion needs to be ether ridiculed or reduced to the idea that it only was a success(and partially it certainly would have been) on the unthinking nature of it's buyers.

your response to my view of the current No.1 artist was a simple lol - hmmmm

serves these greedy stupid fkn W&^%%*RS rIGHT

Now plz FCKKK Offf my television screen forever !!!!!!!!!!!

brentford 20 Dec 20:00


for those without subtitles slimfast was saying "I'm not seething, I'm not seething, I'm not seething "


still they come - couldn't make it up


Didn't have a bet. Don't care about the charts. Really don't give a toss in any way shape or form.
My only point is that i find it quite depressing that people seem to think that getting up Simon Cowell's nose is some sort of heroic victory. It's not. You are just nobs. Grow up.

change channel if u dont like it you fool, it's not like there isn't many to choose from

Which again suggests you don't really get it,
for most it's been sideshow fun that was strangely satisfying.

aren't
just in case

Grown up humans caring about who is number one??????
The very definition of sad.

unlike taking the timne to read and debate the tread about it :^0


have a good evening, I'll leave the seethers to it

They not only care - they keep the christmas #1s collected in a Wikipedia entry!

brentford 20 Dec 20:14
unlike taking the timne to read and debate the tread about it


Brentford this is a forum. Where people express their points of view.

Your point seems to be that they shouldn't be doing that? Or do i misunderstand..?

grown up people worrying about who's top of the premiership?
etcetc

As if i read this whole t(h)read. U fkking moron. Go get a life, hurry now, it's nearly Christmas.

andy keeps calling people who don't buy into the x-factor boll0x 'fools' - that's not very nice andy :)

brentford is right, some people are caring about people being interested in the chart, despite repeatedly claiming not to be interested in the topic.

it's a good job they don't systematically register their disinterest in this way in every thread they're disinterested in as there'd be no room left on the forum.

Not the point i was making sumo.

slimfast 20 Dec 20:13
Grown up humans caring about who is number one??????
The very definition of sad.

i think you'll find 2 people isn't everybody.. and its the comments that make them look foolish :)

But i'm not interested in who is top of the charts sumo.

dan hardcore 20 Dec 19:49
How can so many people give a **** who is number 1 and like rage against the machine at the same time!?


A well identified pivot of this whole debacle. They obviously don't.
It's a singularly contrived 'straddle' engineered by pure manipulation.

Farcical that anyone sees this as a victory of any real substance.

and your comments about rage against the machine enjoying their five minutes of fame and returnig to obscurity isn't foolish?

No, you're interested in telling people who are interested in the chart not to be, which is far worse. You're wasting time on something you're not interested in, whereas people interested in the chart are using their time on something they are interested in.

correct

slimfast 20 Dec 20:10


Didn't have a bet. Don't care about the charts. Really don't give a toss in any way shape or form.
My only point is that i find it quite depressing that people seem to think that getting up Simon Cowell's nose is some sort of heroic victory. It's not. You are just nobs. Grow up.


The fact its got up YOUR nose that some people think that getting up Simon Cowells nose is " some sort of heroic victory "

" You are just nobs. Grow up "

The irony LOL

i dunno. mixed views for me. nice to see x-factor getting bummed, but a similar campaign was made for Fairytale of New York, in which profits were going to charity and imo a far better track.

Not at all. I'm mocking people (be they interested in the charts or not) who think that some gormless pop band usurping some other gormless pop act is somehow a triumph for ... i don't know who actually.

They don't know who either :p

i'll have to give up with you then i'm afraid, andy. you are big enough to admit on the quiz league announcement thread that you know nothing about anything so it just surprises me you won't admit to knowing nothing on this thread too.

Shelter get money they wouldn't have otherwise got.

Oh ffs

Didn't RATM say they're gonna give all the money that's been pumped into their pockeds by this affair to charity?

I didn't realise you were against charitable donations Journeyman, I guess that explains your antipathy.

Ok I'm going to bail out here or I'll lose my naturally placid demanour.

Bringing in the charity angle to carpet over a complex issue of mind manipulation
and the destruction of a once thriving UK music industry is not something I'm going to humour.

The concept and banality of the X-Factor drive a lot of people mad, who love music.
A lot of these people whinge and moan about it.

People like to whinge and moan all through life - just go through this thread.

Two people thought Let's do something about it.
We're nobodies, but we'll put a bit of time and effort into doing something.
You never know

They get a totally unexpected result and amidst the acheivement,
the whinging and moaning starts.

Top marks to them for effort, whether the result was worth it or not.

IMO, best song won, end of.

i don't think i quite worded it like that, i know plenty, just not enough useless knowledge to compile 100 questions

aww im gutted he missed out on number one

Two people arsing around on facebook is 'mind manipulation'. :^0

^^^^^^^^
think he was referring to cowell and x factor, not the 2 people on facebook

Rage are commericial now, I'm throwing away my albums

No, he treats the same equally.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAGE!!! :D :D

yeah go rage back into the shadows where you belong :)

seething^^^

no need to seethe louie :)
joe will win the long term battle

yes, good luck joe. if you book early you might get tickets to see him in aladdin at ashford alhambra next year andy.

joe will win the lon term battle?? What makes you so sure this talentless bum will perform any better than his predacessors? Is it his incredible dancing ability? Maybe his song-writing genius? How about his massive 1/2 octave range?

Enlighten us, andy, as to what Joe has that makes him so special apart from the X-Factor publicity Juggernaught and a smile that appeals to GMTV viewers?

like leona lewis? jls? will young? etc etc
he has a great voice, a great look.. all i can say is watch and see
i cant prove anything to you until time has passed, but you'll see

you can just tell those that have it, from those who don't

lol - just u tubed RATM :( very xmassy - i assume its the bands name which made the campain about such a bad song???

not that i'm a fam of joe's song but....

like leona lewis? jls? will young? etc etc

Andy not great examples there, Leona yes, probably last a while, JLS will fade away again once X Factor hysterial died down and Will Young not heard of in ages. Plus thats a pretty exhaustive list. Have to say Joe is talented but not special, cant see him being different to any of the other flash in the pans.

i think they are good examples, didnt lemar also come from some singing contest?
jls will be around for a long while(imo) will released some great songs, and leona well you agreed with that one
even look at girls aloud

gareth gates had some good songs, now starring as joseph..
im sure there are more but cant think right now..

Those who have it? Will young has sold a few records and probably the best voice of them all, leona lewis has sold out on her dream of being a song-writer and produces the dreadfu,l vacuous cr@p that is the hallmark of Cowell. And JLS, are you seriously saying you think they are really talented?

What I wonder is who, in 20 or 30 years time will be the pop legends like the stones, The Beatles, David Bowie, U2, Queen, Rod Stewart, Elton John, ect. Even in the 80's most of the pop acts like Duran Duran, Erasure, bla bla bla were all organically formed. Engineering pop was done but it wasn't dominating every week.

Would Andy murray have given ugly poofs like freddic mercury or elton john a chance? Unless singers are good looking they have bugger all chance of being sent through to the latter stages because that is not what cowell is after.

what do you look for in a song andy? ALL of these artists are given easy-listening songs that are deviod of any hidden meaning. There is no second dimension and there is no clever word-play, they are written by clever song writers to make them so generic that anyone can relate to something in the song i.e. being hurt/being in love/being alone that is it. What do you find so exciting about this?

fyi, i love queen and elton.. a bit of phil collins..i like some beatles songs.. the list can go on and on etc etc any sort of pop infact.. songs grow on me

I find it hard to explain what i like in songs.. first off i much prefer a male voice to a female voice(although i do still like female singers, whitney, mariah etc etc)
I find songs with different tunes to them, like key changes, such as in a lot of take thats new songs..
lyrics arent as important to me as the tune is, although something i can't stand is a racket where you cant understand the lyrics they are singing

I really just love any type of pop music.. take lady gaga for example.. couldnt stand her music, but bad romance has really grown on me

why do you need hidden meanings in a song? my friend loves one vision, because it ends in fried chicken
whats so good about that? chucking in random words doesnt make a song good

Will any of the X-Factor winners be taken seriously in 20 years time,no chance,conveyer belt lightweight tosh.

Like books, a pop song can just be one dimensional and tell a straight story. You can listen to it and it is not offensive but it's not a difficult skill which is why it is so prevalent. Great songs make us think, it doesn't have to be political, but these songs written for pop idol winners are generic and in no way personal to the singer. Like a great book makes a political point or tells us something about the human condition we had not previously sonsidered, or make us see things from a different point of view.

What would you say the chances of Joe relesring anything other than mindless ballads are?

The same as Harrow Borough winning the Premiership.

but then why cant my opinion of music be the right opinion(not that there is a right one)
but surely if it wasnt successful they wouldnt keep producing these songs and singers

and why cant a winner of a talent contest be successful?
JLS were formed before the x factor, why are they manufactured.. what does that even mean?
i like some nice easy listening songs

ask yourself one question - does my mum like this song? if the answer is yes the song is sh1t and you shouldn't be listening to it!

How would I know what music your mum likes? The noises she was making completely drowned out the radio.

well my mum liked olly and i couldnt stand him :)

theyre both crap songs. merry christmas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJnygeieKS0

my mums a lesbian sparky so good luck with trying to convert her.

still deflecting andy. joe or olly, your mum likes x-factor. this automatically makes it sh1t. nowt against your mum btw - my bull-dyke mother loves it too.

happy new year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3JWwYzyR0&feature=related

Easter, it was me who turned her that way :-(

the tache did it NAP

Is there a chart next Sunday?

dno but im buying joes record again :(

what a moron. Why on earth would anyone buy a song twice?

If you like it you buy it once, if you don't like it you don't buy it.

Do you think htat maybe one day you will meet joe and when you tell him yu bought his song twice he will sh@g you?

im not a moron :) but looking at your other posts around the forums, you do seem to be an aggressive poster, so i wont take it personally

why not help him get to #1?
if everyone bought 1 copy of the songs last week then he would already be number one, so going by your reasoning, most of the people who bought RATM song are morons, which i actually agree with

Many people that bought rage will like the song. I'm a house head and I like it. It is a one off. Why do you care if it reaches number one? YOu don't kow this person, I presume, if you like the song and you own it why does the chart rating matter? Joe has already sold more records in his first week than any other reality star, is that not enough for you?

my point was many bought multiple copies of RATM

why does it bother you so much? i think many people would like joe to get his #1.. he was only denied it by a bunch of "morons" .

I followed x factor for goodness knows how many weeks, it's not like its just a random person i want to get to number 1 (like ratm are just a random band that the morons wanted to get to #1)

so you wouldn't have bought olly or stacy's singles

you seem to be seething more about me buying a 2nd copy of a song(27p wow) than anyone is about joe not getting #1

i wouldnt have bought ollys, i may have bought staceys, i probably would have even bought danyls

i liked joes singing from day 1 so why shouldnt i back him

twice was obviously not enough.

only once last week, and it'll be once this week cheaper than a vote on the x factor innit

Joe is a mediocre singer covering a risible song, has all the hallmarks of your traditional x factor xmas number 1 but not this time apparently.

RATM was not chosen at ramdom, it is symbolic. The fact they are donating the proceeds to charity shows that they are behind the idea and did not want to tarnish it by making money.

I'm not seething at you buyig it twice but it does seem a riddiculous thing to do.

joe fans and x factor fans have really let him down by not getting him the number one. on sky news at lunchtime they were interviewing some girls who were still tearful at not getting the number one.

sumo

haha

Thats fking pathetic.

andy just about admitting to being biggest sap on betfair. remind us all why you are prepared to download it a 2nd time...

i remember you said you won a grand the other day, andy, and i congratulated you. biggest waste of £1000 ever if you spent it all voting for joe!

Andy

Unreal.

Breastfed until 10 (NAP)

i didnt vote on the x factor at all
to download the song it is(or at least was) 27p
less than a packet of crisps.. it's hardly wasting a grand
downloading twice is 27p x 2 = 54p

and the charity thing was just a publicity stunt. "aww look they're giving money to charity, lets buy it and do our bit"