Calling BIG CHARLIE !

Ali's so called phantom punch against Liston...Ali called it the SCREWDRIVER PUNCH - but who taught Ali the SCREWDRIVER PUNCH...?

yup, but I'm tired.

I'm tired too - so tired that I can't remember the answer.

I would guess at Sugar Ray Robinson.

Me too, BC, or Joe Louis?

Stepin Fetchit !

You can google him in the morning Big Charlie...after your full English...the first black millionaire from the world of entertainment, apparently. Quite a guy. Ali loved him and kept him on the payroll when Stepin's dough was gone.

I remember my dad telling me about him, Vel!

Tony Hart?

Jhoon Goo Rhee

There's a brilliant bit in William Klein's documentary where Ali thanks Stepin' for the punch - Ali was unreal.

They're chilling out on a motel balcony, talking about this crazy punch.

Greatest ever sportsman?

Tiger Woods?

Nah.

If you haven't seen that film, you've got to see it, Tommy. Never seen a character like young Ali, ever, ever, ever, ever.

Vel, is that the one you told me was on late one night a few years ago - which led me to actually get my Freeview box working for the first time in about 12 months?

Never knew about the punch coming from him, Vel

and it's bed time now, for me.

Goodnight all

I think so, Tommy...on BBC4. I got the tape for £1.99 in a bargain bin. Klein just followed Cassius Clay about before the first Liston fight - some great footage, Malcolm X included. He asks the general public :

Who wins this fight?

Liston, Liston, Liston, Liston...

Good night Big Charlie and all.

Yes, that was the one, Vel - I remember the Malcolm X bit in particular.

BTW - Liston V Leotis Martin is on YouTube - IN COLOR !

I'll have to have a look at that later Vel!
Goodnight, if you're going.

Oh well, once I looked at the Martin v Liston fight I wandered to Ali v Williams, Wepner, Bonavena, Quarry, and more, and that's nearly three hours gone.

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