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Reyes
04 Dec 09 10:22
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Am utterly stuck on this one, have never been stuck before.

(hope this displays ok)


4 7 8 3 6 1 9 5 2
1 x x 7 x 5 6 8 4
5 6 x x x x 3 7 1
7 x 4 x 1 x 8 6 9
2 x x 4 x 6 7 1 5
6 x 1 x 7 9 2 4 3
9 1 7 6 x x x 2 8
3 x 6 1 x 8 x 9 7
8 x 5 9 x 7 1 3 6

Solution so far is correct - where next??

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By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:24
Must be a 2 on the bottom row next to the 8
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:25
No. hang on !
By:
canaryboy
When: 04 Dec 09 10:26
i love maths and find this craze totally weird

is that odd?
By:
dk1986
When: 04 Dec 09 10:26
Not that this'll help I expect:

[pre]
4 7 8 3 6 1 9 5 2
1 x x 7 x 5 6 8 4
5 6 x x x x 3 7 1

7 x 4 x 1 x 8 6 9
2 x x 4 x 6 7 1 5
6 x 1 x 7 9 2 4 3

9 1 7 6 x x x 2 8
3 x 6 1 x 8 x 9 7
8 x 5 9 x 7 1 3 6[/pre]
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:26
was going to say Study....
cb it passes the time on planes mate!
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:27
Not really, it has nothing to do with maths, just logic. The numbers could be replaced with letters, or shapes.
By:
canaryboy
When: 04 Dec 09 10:27
lol reyes

funny you should say that

tried it the first time on a plane from the states a few months ago as was so desperate to kill some time

it nearly killed my sanity
By:
canaryboy
When: 04 Dec 09 10:28
yeah study spot on
By:
Gene Hackman
When: 04 Dec 09 10:30
I like the Killer that they have in The Times.It has no numbers in at all.
Starts easy on Monday and by Saturday it is very,very hard.
It can take me 5 days on and off to complete one although occasionally I can do it in an hour.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:30
I've seen a puzzle before, reyes, where there are a couple of possibilities, maybe this is like that!

I'll get the mrs to have a look at this later, she likes these too.
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:32
cheers, it's got me baffled.

nice formatting dk !
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:32
Gene, I got the mrs 3 books of 'Killers' for her birthday - she loves them too.
By:
dk1986
When: 04 Dec 09 10:35
Anyone else reach a stage where they can't go any further, so put in one number in a 50/50 stab, then luckily complete it? :D

There used to be a sudoku game on gameswarehouse machines (quiz machines often found in pubs), so I'd input the given numbers into a sudoku solver on my mobile phone. Had to be fast because it was timed between questions and answers. There'd usually be as much as 11 possible grids. Even after answering about 10 questions, therefore giving us at least 10 more numbers in the grid, there were still plenty of possible grids left. They saw me coming. ]:)
By:
Jan1ne
When: 04 Dec 09 10:40
you can put a '9' in the middle square of the top middle box
By:
Smalltime Punter
When: 04 Dec 09 10:41
4 7 8 3 6 1 9 5 2
1 x x 7 x 5 6 8 4
5 6 x x x x 3 7 1
7 x 4 x 1 x 8 6 9
2 x x 4 x 6 7 1 5
6 x 1 x 7 9 2 4 3
9 1 7 6 x x x 2 8
3 x 6 1 x 8 x 9 7
8 x 5 9 x 7 1 3 6

Reyes - the 2 in the bottom middle box has to go in the middle column, which means that in the top middle box it has to go in the bottom row.

We know that the 2 in the bottom left box is in the middle column, so we can therefore deduce that the 2 in the top left box is in the right hand column, middle row.

I.e.

4 7 8 3 6 1 9 5 2
1 x 2 7 x 5 6 8 4
5 6 x x x x 3 7 1
7 x 4 x 1 x 8 6 9
2 x x 4 x 6 7 1 5
6 x 1 x 7 9 2 4 3
9 1 7 6 x x x 2 8
3 x 6 1 x 8 x 9 7
8 x 5 9 x 7 1 3 6

You can definitely finish the top left box from there - not sure if the rest of the puzzle then falls out but it's a start!
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:42
nope - can go in box beneath that too.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Dec 09 10:42
Brilliant SP
By:
dk1986
When: 04 Dec 09 10:44
Good work Smalltime. The old "deduce one number to one column then carry on through" method. :)
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:46
Reyes - the 2 in the bottom middle box has to go in the middle column, which means that in the top middle box it has to go in the bottom row.

How? Why can't it go between the 7 and 5 above it? (top middle box)
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:47
retract that - can see it now...
By:
dj1965
When: 04 Dec 09 10:48
4 7 8 3 6 1 9 5 2
1 3 2 7 9 5 6 8 4
5 6 9 8 4 2 3 7 1

7 5 4 2 1 3 8 6 9
2 9 3 4 8 6 7 1 5
6 8 1 5 7 9 2 4 3

9 1 7 6 3 4 5 2 8
3 2 6 1 5 8 4 9 7
8 4 5 9 2 7 1 3 6
By:
dk1986
When: 04 Dec 09 10:48
Reyes, from the 2 in the bottom right grid, you know that in the bottom middle grid it has to be in the middle, so from that clue, the 2 in the top middle grid needs to be on the bottom row. Follow that through.
By:
dk1986
When: 04 Dec 09 10:48
Pah!
By:
Reyes
When: 04 Dec 09 10:58
Brilliant StP - cheers.

never had to resort to such treachery to fill in 1 box! Rest of puzzle was a doddle after that.

CC to the rescue
By:
Smalltime Punter
When: 04 Dec 09 11:01
:) No problemo. Guess I should probably get on with some work now...
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