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Teacher jailed for sex with pupil
A religious education teacher who had sex with a pupil after seducing him on Facebook has been jailed for 32 months.
Madeleine Martin, 39, of Grassfield Way, Knutsford, had pleaded guilty to 10 counts of sexual activity with the 15-year-old pupil in February.
Manchester Minshull Crown Court heard the affair was so intense she paid for him to have a tattoo of her initials.
The teacher, who taught at a school in Tameside, Greater Manchester, was his learning mentor, the judge heard.
Having first met the boy in September 2008, the pair began communicating via Facebook.
Their friendship soon turned into a passionate affair, Jennifer Birch, prosecuting, told the court.
'Suffered taunting'
"She drove them to a retail park and they participated in consensual sexual intercourse."
They were eventually told to leave by a security guard who saw what they were doing.
The divorced mother-of-two even created a fake Facebook account in a bid to keep their affair a secret, the court heard.
She arranged for her two teenage daughters to be out one night so she could have sex with the boy.
You started to abuse your position of trust. Eventually you lured him into intercourse which should never have happened
Judge Jonathan Geake
The relationship lasted for a matter of days before Martin and the boy decided to end it in a "mutual decision" made in February.
He eventually told his mother about the affair and she immediately reported the matter to police on 20 April.
He has since quit school because he "suffered taunting", and his relationship with his mother has been severely affected, Ms Birch told the court.
"She has seen her vivacious son lose interest in his hobbies. He is very lethargic and has lost the sparkle he once had," she said.
Mark Fireman, defending, said Martin had been at a vulnerable point in her life. She was going through a divorce and her sister had recently died of cancer.
"This was something she fell into. She was in a very vulnerable position, as was he, and she accepts full blame for what happened," he said.
Martin has lost "just about everything", including her job and her friends and she rarely leaves the house, he told the court.
'Emotional scars'
Judge Jonathan Geake said the boy unfortunately has a lasting reminder of their affair in the shape of his tattoo.
He told the defendant: "This is a very sad story for all concerned, not least yourself.
"It is clear your life had come to a very low ebb.
"You started to abuse your position of trust. Eventually you lured him into intercourse which should never have happened."
Martin admitted 10 counts of causing a 15-year-old boy to engage in sexual activity between 9 February 2009 and 16 February 2009, for which she received 32 months per charge to run concurrently.
Det Sgt Dave Moores said: "Martin's actions will leave emotional scars on her victim and his family and have also impacted on the wider community.
"I would like to praise the bravery of the victim in speaking out and ensuring justice was done for him."
Martin has been made to sign the sex offenders register and will remain on it indefinitely.
Teacher jailed for sex with pupil
A religious education teacher who had sex with a pupil after seducing him on Facebook has been jailed for 32 months.
Madeleine Martin, 39, of Grassfield Way, Knutsford, had pleaded guilty to 10 counts of sexual activity with the 15-year-old pupil in February.
Manchester Minshull Crown Court heard the affair was so intense she paid for him to have a tattoo of her initials.
The teacher, who taught at a school in Tameside, Greater Manchester, was his learning mentor, the judge heard.
Having first met the boy in September 2008, the pair began communicating via Facebook.
Their friendship soon turned into a passionate affair, Jennifer Birch, prosecuting, told the court.
'Suffered taunting'
"She drove them to a retail park and they participated in consensual sexual intercourse."
They were eventually told to leave by a security guard who saw what they were doing.
The divorced mother-of-two even created a fake Facebook account in a bid to keep their affair a secret, the court heard.
She arranged for her two teenage daughters to be out one night so she could have sex with the boy.
You started to abuse your position of trust. Eventually you lured him into intercourse which should never have happened
Judge Jonathan Geake
The relationship lasted for a matter of days before Martin and the boy decided to end it in a "mutual decision" made in February.
He eventually told his mother about the affair and she immediately reported the matter to police on 20 April.
He has since quit school because he "suffered taunting", and his relationship with his mother has been severely affected, Ms Birch told the court.
"She has seen her vivacious son lose interest in his hobbies. He is very lethargic and has lost the sparkle he once had," she said.
Mark Fireman, defending, said Martin had been at a vulnerable point in her life. She was going through a divorce and her sister had recently died of cancer.
"This was something she fell into. She was in a very vulnerable position, as was he, and she accepts full blame for what happened," he said.
Martin has lost "just about everything", including her job and her friends and she rarely leaves the house, he told the court.
'Emotional scars'
Judge Jonathan Geake said the boy unfortunately has a lasting reminder of their affair in the shape of his tattoo.
He told the defendant: "This is a very sad story for all concerned, not least yourself.
"It is clear your life had come to a very low ebb.
"You started to abuse your position of trust. Eventually you lured him into intercourse which should never have happened."
Martin admitted 10 counts of causing a 15-year-old boy to engage in sexual activity between 9 February 2009 and 16 February 2009, for which she received 32 months per charge to run concurrently.
Det Sgt Dave Moores said: "Martin's actions will leave emotional scars on her victim and his family and have also impacted on the wider community.
"I would like to praise the bravery of the victim in speaking out and ensuring justice was done for him."
Martin has been made to sign the sex offenders register and will remain on it indefinitely.
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There was another similar case a few weeks back when the woman was not a teacher and the boy was 15. She got 18 months. The boy was infatuated with her. If I was that boy I would go to the European Human Rights tribunal. They all go on about rights nowadays, so the right of a boy to have sex with an older person should be legal.
They were eventually told to leave by a security guard who saw what they were doing.
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after 2 hours surveillance on them .
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after 2 hours surveillance on them .
Jeez -you have secks with an older woman and you lose your sparkle ?
That settles an issue for me.
That settles an issue for me.
:D joe - wonder if the cctv footage is on youtube?
Ronaldinho's dentist 25 Nov 16:43
"She has seen her vivacious son lose interest in his hobbies. He is very lethargic and has lost the sparkle he once had,"
wish id kept my fccking mouth shut 1.01
Smack on ,imo :D
"She has seen her vivacious son lose interest in his hobbies. He is very lethargic and has lost the sparkle he once had,"
wish id kept my fccking mouth shut 1.01
Smack on ,imo :D
Far From Trouble 25 Nov 17:50
LOL Joe, class
Oi, that's my line.
LOL Joe, class
Oi, that's my line.
1.01 if the teacher is blonde and pretty she will escape being called a PAEDO by the tabloids, just like the so-called lesbian teacher that the redtops had the hots for a few weeks ago.
this must be the 3rd or 4th female teacher in as many months, there was a fat scottish woman and that helen goddard music woman off the top of my head
Yes, it's becoming a monthly occurrence now, but mysteriously none of these sex offenders have yet to be called a PAEDO by Fleet Street's Paedo Squad. Why's that I wonder?
evski 25 Nov 17:29
Like it or not this is not the same as an old man**ging a young girl.
It's exactly the same.
Like it or not this is not the same as an old man**ging a young girl.
It's exactly the same.
overboard 25 Nov 17:40
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
Punterfleecer
Probably the same English teacher?
Christine?
Canning Town?
Probably the same English teacher?
Christine?
Canning Town?
no am afraid, funnily enough it was an RE teacher not an English one
and in Scotland too, theres plenty of horny teachers about
I wish Id had a teacher like that. Had to wait years after 15 before I lost my virginity - that caused a lot more emotional anguish I can tell that stupid judge !
A predatory female preying on a minor and some of you are pleased about it. Presumably, all things being equal, if the teacher was male that would be ok too.
it was a statement of fact, not opinion
hence i don't need to waste my time explaining
hence i don't need to waste my time explaining
will reserve judgement untill someone posts a photo of teacher
I'm not condoning her behaviour at all - it's the subsequent action that put the upset apple cart amongst the pigeons.
When I was 15 I copped of with my Biology teacher we arranged to consumate our relationship at her house,she was very shy and whilst undressing she apologised for the time it was taking to remove her corsets I immediately told her not to worry as I had fooked my dads donkey with his harness on loads of times!!!!!!
Adelaide 25 Nov 19:08
A predatory female preying on a minor and some of you are pleased about it. Presumably, all things being equal, if the teacher was male that would be ok too.
things are not equal you fool
The overriding stench of poncing parents is one which pervades these cases.
Parents find out son is boning teacher,instead of a slap on the back and a "well done son" it's £££' signs and dreams of compo and NOTW stories.
If the kid was 12 or somat ok but 15 ffs..give it a rest.
This would have been a great badge of honour back in the day now it's "emotionally hurtful" and to think how brave the poor lamb was giving evdience against the admittedley dopey b1int
Parents find out son is boning teacher,instead of a slap on the back and a "well done son" it's £££' signs and dreams of compo and NOTW stories.
If the kid was 12 or somat ok but 15 ffs..give it a rest.
This would have been a great badge of honour back in the day now it's "emotionally hurtful" and to think how brave the poor lamb was giving evdience against the admittedley dopey b1int
nice.
what's the crime?
the crime is she isn't doing it we me.
what's the crime?
the crime is she isn't doing it we me.
Well I think they are. So if your 15 year old daughter get's it off with her male teacher - all hunky dory then.
You cannot proclaim one rule good enough for one sex but not the other, just because it appeals to you.
You cannot proclaim one rule good enough for one sex but not the other, just because it appeals to you.
the woman is a convicted paedophile
she should've had her cl!t cut off
she should've had her cl!t cut off
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/25/article-1230882-075B759F000005DC-9...
Somebody remind me why tamsloup became a pariah on here. Wasn't it because he thought nothing wrong in 40-year-old men fantasising about 15-year-old girls?
I wasn't around in the Tamsloup days
so I can't comment
so I can't comment
I think someone should tell Harry the Dog his trainer's moonlighting.
overboard 25 Nov 17:40
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
In other words....not v similar at all!
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
In other words....not v similar at all!
if its old enough to bleed its oold enough to be butchered you mean :)
Adelaide 25 Nov 23:16
Well I think they are. So if your 15 year old daughter get's it off with her male teacher - all hunky dory then.
You cannot proclaim one rule good enough for one sex but not the other, just because it appeals to you.
bore off you total moron. it's completely different.
Hello Idiot
Most people don't sign their posts on here.
I mean 'why is it completely different?'
Sincerely
Bill xxx
Most people don't sign their posts on here.
I mean 'why is it completely different?'
Sincerely
Bill xxx
Any grown man who shafts a girl of 15 should be locked up and grown women should not be exempt from the same law.
I've no time for men of about 40 who seduce girls of 15 so I don't see why I should feel different about females of about 40 who take advantage of the raging hormones in schoolboys.
Saying that the boy enjoyed it is no excuse. Does anyone still believe that girls don't enjoy it? Children should be protected from themselves and from middle-aged pervs, imo.
This cow even got him branded with her name. Worth another 10 years, that.
I've no time for men of about 40 who seduce girls of 15 so I don't see why I should feel different about females of about 40 who take advantage of the raging hormones in schoolboys.
Saying that the boy enjoyed it is no excuse. Does anyone still believe that girls don't enjoy it? Children should be protected from themselves and from middle-aged pervs, imo.
This cow even got him branded with her name. Worth another 10 years, that.
BillKiller 26 Nov 03:14
Any grown man who shafts a girl of 15 should be locked up and grown women should not be exempt from the same law.
any grown man who goes with a 15 yeal old lass should be castrated and killed imo. whoever, if a 15 yr old bloke goes with an older woman there is no problem whatsoever. fair play to the bloke.
the difference is it's the male who always hands out the shafting. it's ALWAYS the woman that is degraded. do you not understand that?? why do you think lads who sleep around are studs, yet girls who sleep around are s luts? for the same reason - it's ALWAYS the girl that is used, degraded, is **ed senseless.
i guess if i was gay (i'm not btw) i wouldn't go shouting from the rooftops if i was on the recieving end of about 50 black blokes in a weekend. if i was giving it out though? i'd be a legend.
you clearly don't have kids.
if my daughter was getting banged left right an centre by about 10 blokes a month i would be disgusted with her.
if your son was banging about 10 lasses a month you would be very proud, i'd think he was a legend and get him to video it next time and bluetooth it to me
if my daughter was getting banged left right an centre by about 10 blokes a month i would be disgusted with her.
if your son was banging about 10 lasses a month you would be very proud, i'd think he was a legend and get him to video it next time and bluetooth it to me
A child molester is a child molester. Personal plumbing doesn't alter that.
You have claimed that you would ask your son to video his sex life and send you a copy. Get help.
You have claimed that you would ask your son to video his sex life and send you a copy. Get help.
i don't have children. and it's obvious you dont either by your ridiculous comments.
I might have children one day and I'll be damned if any middle aged pervert (either sex) will get their end away with them while they're 15 years old, consent of the children notwithstanding.
You appear to think that only girls can be abused. You are wrong.
You appear to think that only girls can be abused. You are wrong.
abused.
lol. this poor woman is on the sex offenders list for life. this country is a joke
lol. this poor woman is on the sex offenders list for life. this country is a joke
it's ALWAYS the woman that is degraded. do you not understand that??
In your fantasies maybe .In real life we suck you dry and leave you limp and exhausted.
It's the exploitation of the weak which is wrong , it makes no difference what sex you are.
In your fantasies maybe .In real life we suck you dry and leave you limp and exhausted.
It's the exploitation of the weak which is wrong , it makes no difference what sex you are.
that woman should be in jail as well as on the sex offenders list..
female techers were a rarity in my day at high school.I once saw my art teachers nipple.It gave me a hard on for years.ahahhahaha but wait was I lethargic and losing interest in hobbies because of this? The victim must be gay.
Maybe if he was ren or eleven i might agree about her being locked up.
However fifteen is old enough imo. He was obviously sexually ready or she wouldnt of picked him out , and he wouldnt of been up for it.
I daresay his lack of interest in life has more to do with all the hullabaloo and extreme show up due to have such mad parents
However fifteen is old enough imo. He was obviously sexually ready or she wouldnt of picked him out , and he wouldnt of been up for it.
I daresay his lack of interest in life has more to do with all the hullabaloo and extreme show up due to have such mad parents
Adelaide 25 Nov 23:16
Well I think they are. So if your 15 year old daughter get's it off with her male teacher - all hunky dory then.
You cannot proclaim one rule good enough for one sex but not the other, just because it appeals to you.
Of course you can. So you would be happy if your son skipped around the playground in a skirt with his hair in pigtails and put on eyeliner and lip gloss in his spare time because it is ok for girls to do it?
Well I think they are. So if your 15 year old daughter get's it off with her male teacher - all hunky dory then.
You cannot proclaim one rule good enough for one sex but not the other, just because it appeals to you.
Of course you can. So you would be happy if your son skipped around the playground in a skirt with his hair in pigtails and put on eyeliner and lip gloss in his spare time because it is ok for girls to do it?
If the pervert had got pregnant, the lad would have had to pay child support for years. Maybe that was her intention, who knows.
For all those who support her, would you say the same if it had been a 40-year-old man who had gay sex with the boy?
For all those who support her, would you say the same if it had been a 40-year-old man who had gay sex with the boy?
Yes Bill, I can see the sense in that. If I was a woman who wanted to get pregnant to gain child support money I think I would opt for the schoolboy with either a paper round or just pocket money rather than someone older with a job and savings.
"I daresay his lack of interest in life has more to do with all the hullabaloo and extreme show up due to have such mad parents"
Or maybe it's because he's a fking 15 year old. I particularly liked the "he's become lethargic" bit.
Or maybe it's because he's a fking 15 year old. I particularly liked the "he's become lethargic" bit.
Would you still be on the teacher's side if it were a man, Roger?
As for the child support, it could happen. It's happened elsewhere. That female is devious, she even organised getting her own kids of about the same age out of the house so she could bring the boy in.
As for the child support, it could happen. It's happened elsewhere. That female is devious, she even organised getting her own kids of about the same age out of the house so she could bring the boy in.
It is ludicrous to think a woman wants to get up the duff via a schoolboy to cyphon off his pocket money.
This story echoes the Cate Blanchett film ''Notes on a Scandal'' in case you've never seen it.
What I strongly object to here is the apparent condoning from some of you of underage teen males having sexual relations with older women, as if it's just another notch on the bedpost. This woman's career is ruined, mostly her own fault and I have little sympathy, but the teenager must share part of the blame for possibly encouraging it. He will move on as if nothing's happened, but what for her?
Girls of the same age often have fantasies about older men including their teachers. It's not just the boys. Either way it's wrong for 15 year olds to dally with older people in this way, and shame on some of you for thinking it's all above board. Even if he was 16, it might be legal, but it still wouldn't make it right.
What I strongly object to here is the apparent condoning from some of you of underage teen males having sexual relations with older women, as if it's just another notch on the bedpost. This woman's career is ruined, mostly her own fault and I have little sympathy, but the teenager must share part of the blame for possibly encouraging it. He will move on as if nothing's happened, but what for her?
Girls of the same age often have fantasies about older men including their teachers. It's not just the boys. Either way it's wrong for 15 year olds to dally with older people in this way, and shame on some of you for thinking it's all above board. Even if he was 16, it might be legal, but it still wouldn't make it right.
Even if he was 16, it might be legal, but it still wouldn't make it right.
Why not? What age of woman could he trade up to before you think it is wrong?
Why not? What age of woman could he trade up to before you think it is wrong?
Even if he were 18, it would be illegal. She was his teacher, she was in a position of power. As for the boy being partly to blame, the judge was right to point out that he was in no way culpable.
If females want equality then they must get it in full. No half measures, no chivalry, no special pleading.
If females want equality then they must get it in full. No half measures, no chivalry, no special pleading.
a bj of the re teacher in a car park,lucky fcukin barsteward ;)
BillKiller 25 Nov 23:44
Somebody remind me why tamsloup became a pariah on here. Wasn't it because he thought nothing wrong in 40-year-old men fantasising about 15-year-old girls?
Bill, if memory serves he started a thread entitled "What was I supposed to do?" or "Where was I supposed to look?" or something like that, and then described how he was walking down the road, and there was girl about 14,( can't remember the exact age, but she was young) with her breasts on display, which prompted his question in the thread header
Somebody remind me why tamsloup became a pariah on here. Wasn't it because he thought nothing wrong in 40-year-old men fantasising about 15-year-old girls?
Bill, if memory serves he started a thread entitled "What was I supposed to do?" or "Where was I supposed to look?" or something like that, and then described how he was walking down the road, and there was girl about 14,( can't remember the exact age, but she was young) with her breasts on display, which prompted his question in the thread header
Thanks, Mitch. I wonder if he would have been found so offensive if the objects of his desire had been male and he had been female.
Why not? What age of woman could he trade up to before you think it is wrong
you seem to think of it only from your own sexualised point of view.
Do you not stop to consider how the mother of the son may feel about her child romping with a woman her own age? Would your wife, the mother of your son be happy with such a situation? Should she be expected to go along with this attitude ''go on get stuck in there'' as you appear to feel about it.
There are other people's feelings involved and I would be very angry with any son of mine who did this, never mind what I might feel about the teacher. It's a quite revolting situation and nothing to bragg about, but I shouldn't be surprised that some of you seem to think it is.
you seem to think of it only from your own sexualised point of view.
Do you not stop to consider how the mother of the son may feel about her child romping with a woman her own age? Would your wife, the mother of your son be happy with such a situation? Should she be expected to go along with this attitude ''go on get stuck in there'' as you appear to feel about it.
There are other people's feelings involved and I would be very angry with any son of mine who did this, never mind what I might feel about the teacher. It's a quite revolting situation and nothing to bragg about, but I shouldn't be surprised that some of you seem to think it is.
Like to see a poll of blokes which asks for a.) Let her go.
b.) Jail her.
a.) 1.08
b.) Jail her.
a.) 1.08
My initial reaction to the story was "lucky boy" but having seen a picture of the woman in today's paper I now understand his feeling traumatised!
If the boy was gay and the teacher male, I don't see any difference in this story...?
Ease up Barney !!
just had a look at her, she's a scrubber
just had a look at her, she's a scrubber
jack12321 26 Nov 13:38
If the boy was gay and the teacher male, I don't see any difference in this story...?
theres a lot of difference if it's the 15 yr old boy been taken up the arse. get a grip moron
what if the boy was taking the teacher up the arris? is that better?
just curious, some interesting views on sexuality here
What if the teacher were a woman of 60, Gashwan? Would that get your approval?
does she look like Cate Blanchet?
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/madilaine_Martin_450x330.jpg
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/madilaine_Martin_450x330.jpg
ok , hardly notes on a scandal - but you still would! (as a 15 year old)
BillKiller 26 Nov 14:10
What if the teacher were a woman of 60, Gashwan? Would that get your approval?
under those circumstances the boy should be locked up and punished for being a sick **
What if the teacher were a woman of 60, Gashwan? Would that get your approval?
under those circumstances the boy should be locked up and punished for being a sick **
Yesterday I posted about having**ged a 32 year old English teacher when I was 18 and had just left a neighbouring school.
Overnight, I did my sums, and worked out that if she is still with us, she will be 71!
This makes me feel very old indeed. So the next time you are queuing in the post office and the old biddy in front is collecting her pension, just bear in mind that , once, she could have been a 3 times a day** monster ruining an 18 year old's nads.
Overnight, I did my sums, and worked out that if she is still with us, she will be 71!
This makes me feel very old indeed. So the next time you are queuing in the post office and the old biddy in front is collecting her pension, just bear in mind that , once, she could have been a 3 times a day** monster ruining an 18 year old's nads.
Hate laws based on morality.
We stronlgy critisise other countries who have laws which offend our morality (lashing for drinking alcohol for example). Yet we dont mind ruining someones life just for having sex with a fifteen year old boy.
If she had been twenty she wouldnt of gone to jail ,but just because shes forty she does.
If she looked stunning or was a film star it would of allbeen ok.
But becaus she ugly and a teacher she vermin
A society that loves 16 year old page three girls , thinks Bill Wyman is terrific for bedding a thirteen year old yet gary glitter is a monster etc etc etc
We stronlgy critisise other countries who have laws which offend our morality (lashing for drinking alcohol for example). Yet we dont mind ruining someones life just for having sex with a fifteen year old boy.
If she had been twenty she wouldnt of gone to jail ,but just because shes forty she does.
If she looked stunning or was a film star it would of allbeen ok.
But becaus she ugly and a teacher she vermin
A society that loves 16 year old page three girls , thinks Bill Wyman is terrific for bedding a thirteen year old yet gary glitter is a monster etc etc etc
Well said, lippy. My nephew was over six feet at thirteen and my niece at thirteen is taller than me and wears make up and nail varnish ( with permission from her mother) - young they may be, but children,no.
strangely ..if the boy had raped a younger girl pupil.....probably just a warning.
Any breach of a position of trust will be heavily punished by the courts.
This is not so much a comment on the act itself (although the gender argument is unsustainable) as a signal that teachers are in a particular legal situation where their pupils are concerned.
This is not so much a comment on the act itself (although the gender argument is unsustainable) as a signal that teachers are in a particular legal situation where their pupils are concerned.
I'd have sh@gged my french mistress with no complaints.
thelibertine 26 Nov 00:07
overboard 25 Nov 17:40
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
In other words....not v similar at all!
What?for me, she was a teacher, and she was the horniest and most demanding female I had ever met, also the fact that I stopped it due to exhaustion
how is that not very similar?, the only difference was that, the ages, and she taught RE and not English
Thelibertine, are you just trying to annoy me?
overboard 25 Nov 17:40
Just after I left school at 18, I started**ging an English teacher aged 32 from the school down the road. She was the horniest and most demanding female I have ever met . To be honest, I packed it in through exhaustion.
I had a very similar situation except the fact she was 27 and I was 26
In other words....not v similar at all!
What?for me, she was a teacher, and she was the horniest and most demanding female I had ever met, also the fact that I stopped it due to exhaustion
how is that not very similar?, the only difference was that, the ages, and she taught RE and not English
Thelibertine, are you just trying to annoy me?
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