what I did think was, i'll join with my status, I'll tell them, "i'll dae yer income tax free for the next year, but a deed as big as that is worthy of free pints for a year"
after a year, I'll scarper
but do they really?what I did think was, i'll join with my status, I'll tell them, "i'll dae yer income tax free for the next year, but a deed as big as that is worthy of free pints for a year"after a year, I'll scarper
Punter i was working with a lad today who was talking to himself as if there were two people there, if there was a shotgun next to him i would have blew his head clean off. I thought what the f*ck are you doing here, i said why are you talking to yourself and he said ' I always do '
Punter i was working with a lad today who was talking to himself as if there were two people there, if there was a shotgun next to him i would have blew his head clean off. I thought what the f*ck are you doing here, i said why are you talking to you
Unless ur in certain circles like solicitors and doctors and golf club council members , it actually is a bind.. you have to be mates before u go in with a member.. you dont meet any new real mates in it, speaking from 14 years experience..
Its harmless, not in any way sinister as people like to believe, and great for people that have never had any power and want some , even for a short time.Yes it does its bit for charity.. but giving 200 quid to the next Lions guy you see shaking his tine doest twice as much directly for people in need like the handicaped.. More than widows of Masons.
I know it all, and he people it is are genrally good.. but is isnt what is was 30 years ago and wont be again..
I wouldnt discourange you to join.. but dont expect too much.. unless you just want to be a secrearty of something.. every lodge will take you with open arms, even if they cant say that directly ( when they are testing and checking you etc etc blah blah blah)
Me. I am a past Master of my lodge..Unless ur in certain circles like solicitors and doctors and golf club council members , it actually is a bind.. you have to be mates before u go in with a member.. you dont meet any new real mates in it, speaking
yes.. I indeed have been. in 1993.. Know the ritual isideout and installed my own officiers.. Its not a bad thing.. but I am just telling people that think they will join it for some great thrill.. they will be disappointed.
yes.. I indeed have been. in 1993.. Know the ritual isideout and installed my own officiers.. Its not a bad thing.. but I am just telling people that think they will join it for some great thrill.. they will be disappointed.
depends a bit how old you are and what sort of person you are
i've been one since 2003 and been fairly disappointed: whilst aping ancient mystical ceremonies the ritual is transparently a lot of nonsense cooked up in victorian times, and pretty dull once you've seen it a time or 2 (there are only 4 basic ceremonies in craft masonry).
in the course of 6 years i have met dozens of "brothers" whom i would not have met otherwise, but not one has become a close friend or useful in business (nor me helpful to any of them)
from a charity angle a good deal of the charitable donations go to masonic charities, benefiting masons and their connections
the remainder of the charitable donations must be the most expensively raised charitable funds around, after the costs of premises, dinners, regalia etc is taken into account
masonry manages to be both pompous and furtive at the same time, which must be unique
the single advantage i have experienced is when moving to a new city or working overseas. look up a local masonic lodge in the directory, toddle along to a meeting and you've immediately got a local circle of friends
they are desperate for new members and you would have to be some sort of social outcast not to be admitted
if this hasn't been enough to put you off, best approach is the direct one: "could you tell me a bit about masonry? i'm interested in applying to join"
try to find a lodge that doesn't meet too often: you will find 4 times a year is often enough, plus there are rehearsals and they will press-gang you into other masonic orders once you've progressed up the hierarchy a bit
depends a bit how old you are and what sort of person you arei've been one since 2003 and been fairly disappointed: whilst aping ancient mystical ceremonies the ritual is transparently a lot of nonsense cooked up in victorian times, and pretty dull o
If you seriously want to know look in the phone book and call your nearest Masonic centre. 99% certain there will be someone pleased to meet and talk with you.
If you seriously want to know look in the phone book and call your nearest Masonic centre. 99% certain there will be someone pleased to meet and talk with you.
A few years back I lived in Cyprus for six months of the year, a lot of the ex pats are former forces lads and they railroaded me into the Buffs, they're like the masons poor relations :) but it was a laugh and we did a lot for charity, also less stuffy and pompous than the masons. i've been asked to apply for the masons a few times but have always refused as they seem more up themselves.
A few years back I lived in Cyprus for six months of the year, a lot of the ex pats are former forces lads and they railroaded me into the Buffs, they're like the masons poor relations :) but it was a laugh and we did a lot for charity, also less stu
when i was a kid i always wanted a reverseable ring like my dads one, think it had some kind of masons symbol on one side and something else on the other.
when i got older i realised its liek the boys brigade for adults, waste of time and full of geeks
when i was a kid i always wanted a reverseable ring like my dads one, think it had some kind of masons symbol on one side and something else on the other.when i got older i realised its liek the boys brigade for adults, waste of time and full of geek
What were loosely known as the Buffettes used to put a lot of effort into putting into practice whatever money raising schemes the Buffs came up with :) but no, it is an all male club.
What were loosely known as the Buffettes used to put a lot of effort into putting into practice whatever money raising schemes the Buffs came up with :) but no, it is an all male club.
If I wanted to be bummed on a bed of vegetables arranged in geometric shapes, by a man wearing a one legged luminous leotard and chanting in tongues, I'd go and visit Canaryboy for the weekend
If I wanted to be bummed on a bed of vegetables arranged in geometric shapes, by a man wearing a one legged luminous leotard and chanting in tongues, I'd go and visit Canaryboy for the weekend
lmfao, yes, there are many lady freemasons lodges. (Not sure why Hoss took it upon himself to answer that there were not)
I think Topkat's description is absolutely spot on for many people; especially if they only joined because they hoped that they might gain by it. Freemasonry is a system of morality .... it makes good men, better. That sounds trite, but for some people it really is fulfilling. It is like most things; the more you put in, the more you get out.
But as several people have said, compared to modern hobbies it is quite staid.
lmfao, yes, there are many lady freemasons lodges.(Not sure why Hoss took it upon himself to answer that there were not)I think Topkat's description is absolutely spot on for many people; especially if they only joined because they hoped that they mi
Spassky I joined masonry purely for social purposes.
As a "system of morality" it is overblown.
Masonry could just about be described as a "code of conduct" but there is no moral or ethical foundation to it that I have seen.
One thing that continues to niggle me about masonry is that I find it very hard to imagine any person of really high moral statue being a member and taking part in the ritual. Mandela? Gandhi? Jesus?
I just don't see them donning morning suit, swearing meaningless oaths and waving their arms about like a colonial traffic warden.
Spassky I joined masonry purely for social purposes.As a "system of morality" it is overblown.Masonry could just about be described as a "code of conduct" but there is no moral or ethical foundation to it that I have seen.One thing that continues to