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09 Nov 09
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And still leave smoking as a legal activity raking in the revenue?
To smoke is legal therefore i do it exercising my human right to participate in a legal activity. To then ban me from doing this in certain areas is an infringement of my human rights. It is also shows favouritism towards a particular group (non-smokers) which bottomline is a type of racism. There was always a comprimise available which was ignored e.g. splitting pubs into smoking and non-smoking areas with an airtight division or allowing pubs to decide by customer voting but enforcing every village , town or city has a ratio of 50-50 of each.
To smoke is legal therefore i do it exercising my human right to participate in a legal activity. To then ban me from doing this in certain areas is an infringement of my human rights. It is also shows favouritism towards a particular group (non-smokers) which bottomline is a type of racism. There was always a comprimise available which was ignored e.g. splitting pubs into smoking and non-smoking areas with an airtight division or allowing pubs to decide by customer voting but enforcing every village , town or city has a ratio of 50-50 of each.
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have you been drinking? which human right are you invoking?
Right to life Freedom of expression and conscience Right to free assembly Right to personal privacy No arbitrary searches or seizures Right to respect for private and family life Right to bodily integrity Right to personal liberty Freedom of association Right to participate in government Right to protection of the law Right to property |
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1from the top and any 3 from the middle
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Utter nonsense. Others should not be forced to breath in your smoke. If I stand in a pub drinking a pint do I pour 1/4 of it down the neck of the teetotal chap standing next to me? No.
This is one thing smokers fail to grasp. We dont want to share your habit. |
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Then let us go to pubs where smoking is allowed and we will let you go to pubs where it is not.
Problem? |
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Yes. Why should non-smoking staff breath in your smoke?
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There are plenty happy to work in such a pub. The sort of people who have lost their jobs altogether because of the ban and the consequent closure of hundreds of pubs.
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That isn't all down to the smoking ban. In fact the amount of smokers who no longer go to the pub have been replaced by non-smokers who wouldnt have gone before the ban was brought in.
Blame pub closures on the increasing prices of alcoho in pubsl, large chains such as Yates' taking over and the cheap drink available from supermarkets. |
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The smoking ban contributed, no question.
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Well if it means saving peoples health then so be it.
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Perhaps people can make choices like that for themselves.
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Smoking is an uncontrollable addiction that kills. It should be eradicated.
In fifty years time people will look back on smoking as a naive foolish habit and wonder why anybody ever did it. |
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Thtas right, you have the God given right to tell me how I should behave. Thats where your argument has inevitably led you, and sums up the position.
Britain didn't used to be like this. |
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We've evolved. It's better to be told you can't smoke than be gripped by an addiction that is slowly killing you.
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Its better to live in a tolerant society.
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Thats the problem with smokers.They don't know how to behave. Selfish, and foul breathed, baztards!!
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Society was tolerant when we didnt realise the damage smoking was causing. We've come a long way since then. Nothing good comes out of the habit. I can list you 20 negatives and zero positives.
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It's not just Britain anyway. The whole of western society has woken up to this.
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You can still smoke in bars and such in Europe, they are past masters at ignoring laws over there.
As it happens, I was smoking at a restaurant table over here on Saturday night and will be smoking in a pub tonight. Shan't say where, naturally. Remember what it is you are being asked to tolerate. People smoking in pubs which are licensed to smoke, and people not smoking in non-smoking pubs where you would be very welcome, I am sure. |
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As it happens, I was smoking at a restaurant table over here on Saturday night and will be smoking in a pub tonight. Shan't say where, naturally.
Batman eat your heart out there is a new vigilante in town |
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They didn't ban it in the Bars in Parliament. It's still legal there.
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They did actually, but it wasn't covered by the Act, because the Houses of Parliament is sovereign and not covered by domestic law. My understanding is , the authorities who run the house banned it seperately from Parliament.
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SIGN THE PETITION
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/revokesmokingban/ |
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signed
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healingmylegalhealingmyheart 09 Nov 04:08
have you been drinking? which human right are you invoking? Right to life Freedom of expression and conscience Right to free assembly Right to personal privacy No arbitrary searches or seizures Right to respect for private and family life Right to bodily integrity Right to personal liberty Freedom of association Right to participate in government Right to protection of the law Right to property Not everything has to be black and white, have you no sense of humour. GEEK!!! |
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I'm fond of the right to breathe fresh unadulterated air in the the surroudings i care to inhabit.
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birchola - Utter nonsense. Others should not be forced to breath in your smoke. If I stand in a pub drinking a pint do I pour 1/4 of it down the neck of the teetotal chap standing next to me? No.
----------------- does this mean that non car drivers should be forced to breathe in exhaust fumes? how long till they ban cars.... |
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Would people who liked Classical music and RAP go to the same place??, well then if people disagree then a choice should be available.
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Are you saying non smokers shouldnt go to pubs Zil?
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It is also shows favouritism towards a particular group (non-smokers) which bottomline is a type of racism.
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That isn't a human right. I don't drive anymore but you don't those like me campeigning for the right not to breathe in dirty car fumes, which can't be good for anyone's health.
I don't see how the government has the right to enforce healthier lifestyles on us, or how it has the right to tell us what to do on private property. this policy is indicative of the changing poliitical attitudes in this country. Freedom is loosing its appeal. "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance"- thomas jefferson |
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Birchola 09 Nov 07:54
Utter nonsense. Others should not be forced to breath in your smoke. If I stand in a pub drinking a pint do I pour 1/4 of it down the neck of the teetotal chap standing next to me? No. This is one thing smokers fail to grasp. We dont want to share your habit. Why would we want to share our valuable smoke with you. Smokers do grasp the fact that smokey atmospheres are harmful to non-smokers, however there is still a compromise. Why should non-smokers have every pub, thats just selfish. I started smoking when in the army due to peer pressure, ok yes i was weak to give in, however if at the time (23 years ago) i was told that in the future i would be treated as a second class citizen i may have thought twice, but in those days everywhere you looked smoking was promoted as acceptable. TV, films, adverts billboards etc. So have some sympathy towards people who are grasped by an addiction that is hard to beat and accept that as human beings with an illness all we want is an internal heated area segregated in pub to socialise with people with the same problem. |
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Tevez is God 09 Nov 14:04
Another forumite with no sense of humour. |
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can you please explain what the joke was then? chhers :)
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cheers, even ;)
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Don't read all my posts as 100% sensible, lol.
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its the thin end of the wedge - thank god
roll on a full ban |
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Don't read all my posts as 100% sensible, lol
no, really? |
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Dont be surprised if Alcohol is viewed in the same light in a few years time.
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Government advisers say we should all take ecstasy as its safer than alcohol anyway.
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