Fighting Talk on 5Live is class when they have good guests

I heartily concur.

That other fella, John something, who sounds like Kelner is pretty good. Mark Watson too.

When they get on some ex pros who think they are god's gift it can be painful to listen to. Austin Healy for example.

Is that Bob Mills as in Bob "I am the least humorous human being ever to walk the planet, and I have absolutely no talent whatsoever, how I managed to become a comedian is staggering and arguably the only thing I have ever been involved in which is even slightly ironic or funny" Mills?

Or another one?

That's the fella.

some of the ex-footballer type guests are painful. im thinking gary o'something in particular

Aussie comic Jim Jefferies is great on that show. Unfortunately the BBC are bit scared of his brand of humour. I don't think he's been on for over year.