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A challenge has been set. I need to play a recognisable song on the guitar (and sing along) by Christmas.

I need your sage advice. Imagine (and I know this will be difficult) that I am an utterly clueless beginner.

What song do you think I could take a crack at?

Thanking you in advance of the abuse.
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Report nestor August 31, 2009 3:18 PM BST
Ori, I have it on the reliable information from my youngest daughter, that Seven Nation Army by White Stripes is the song all beginners can master with comparative ease.
Report orioles August 31, 2009 3:32 PM BST
Won't that just be a noise? I like the White Stripes, but I'm looking for something a bit more, well ... This needs to be an acoustic masterpiece, Nest. Not Segoviaesque, but beyond electric thrash.

There is a considerable forfeit at risk!
Report cjhornet August 31, 2009 3:36 PM BST
Wonderwall imo
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 3:37 PM BST
O, I really have no idea about such things, not being able to play the guitar myself, but I do remember that as a small child a neighbour friend's brother set up 'a group' and whenever I went around there they were always playing 'Norwegan Wood' in the kitchen.

As they were only about 13-15 years old at the time, I would think it was because it was easy to play on the guitar?
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 3:38 PM BST
*Norwegian Wood
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 3:38 PM BST
*Norwegian Wood
Report everythings gone green August 31, 2009 3:44 PM BST
The sustain/feedback bit towards the end of Seven Nation Army would be difficult for a novice imo.
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 3:46 PM BST
Here you go O:

http://www.5min.com/Video/Norwegian-Wood-Easy-Acoustic-Rhythm-Guitar-Lesson-127148710
Report orioles August 31, 2009 3:54 PM BST
NOW, you're talking, TT. Thanks :)
Report nestor August 31, 2009 4:00 PM BST
Altogether now.......

I once had a girl
Or should I say she once had me
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:01 PM BST
You're more than welcome, O.

There's quite a few links on instruction, eg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6W0XsDAxzM

And here are the guitar tabs:

http://www.fretplay.com/tabs/b/beatles/norwegian_wood-tab.shtml
Report orioles August 31, 2009 4:02 PM BST
This'll teach the buggers for challenging me ]:)

Thanks again!
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:03 PM BST
A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-four, Nestor!
Report Joe Jordan August 31, 2009 4:03 PM BST
Pictures of Matchstick Men always an easy one to master ..by the Quo..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4YYI8G5EM

OR Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvDoDaCYrEY

might be a bit before your audiences time , but very nice to listen to anyway .. :-)
Report nestor August 31, 2009 4:05 PM BST
I like it, Tommy. Let's have a singsong. I'll be on the comb and tissue paper.
Report orioles August 31, 2009 4:07 PM BST
Waterloo Sunset a favourite, JJ.

Did you watch the hockey? Fantastic stuff :)
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:08 PM BST
Okay Nestor! I'll take the spoons!
Report nestor August 31, 2009 4:10 PM BST
We only need a tambourinist and we've got ourselves a band, Tommy. What shall we call ourselves?
Report boggle August 31, 2009 4:12 PM BST
Tommy Toes 31 Aug 17:03


A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-four, Nestor!


That's unintentionally hilarious considering the song Tommy lol.
Report Joe Jordan August 31, 2009 4:12 PM BST
orioles ..No ..been to 3x Events on 3 days running , so missed it ..
but a Great win ...and totally unexpected tbh ...

But watching the England Womens Soccer Team playing in European Semi Final Now on Eurosport ...ch 410 Sky ...lets hope they do as well as the Mens England Hockey Team :-)
Report curious-cat August 31, 2009 4:13 PM BST
7 little girls ... sitting on the backseat with fred
Report curious-cat August 31, 2009 4:14 PM BST
the guitar work is elementary
Report orioles August 31, 2009 4:14 PM BST
The women took a bronze as well.

The men were superb, great hockey in the final too. Looking forward to 2012.
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:15 PM BST
I'll put you down for the tambourine, Boggle!

How about 'The Chit Chat Chanters' Nestor?
Report curious-cat August 31, 2009 4:15 PM BST
and if you could find a backing group of 7 'girls' .... including Big Charlie in a gymslip ....

you'll have them eating out of your hand
Report boggle August 31, 2009 4:16 PM BST
I want one of those sticks with bottle tops nailed to it, if that's ok
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:18 PM BST
Okay Boggle. I'll knock one up out if the empties for you!
Report orioles August 31, 2009 4:20 PM BST
This is like being in present at the Indra Club, Hamburg in 1960!
Report Tommy Toes August 31, 2009 4:21 PM BST
Yes indeed O!
Report boggle August 31, 2009 4:23 PM BST
Tea chest bass and we'll be the darlings of the Reeperbahn.
Report STUDYFORM August 31, 2009 7:38 PM BST
I've been showing a mate how to play the geetar recently. What I've noticed with him, and other beginners is;
a, He doesn't bend his left wrist enough - You need to get the TIPS of the fingers pressing the strings. Don't worry too much, the skin will harden a bit and the sore feeling will ease, but it's easier to make the chords than just folding your fingers round the fretboard.

b, He concentrates too much on getting the strumming right (as on the page he's reading), just strum more or less in time to a "basic beat" in your head, which accompanies the song you're playing, the nuances of strumming will follow.

c, He, like nearly all beginner - and some more accomplished - musicians, tends to go a bit fast.
Go slowly - even ridiculously slowly, until your confidence builds. The faster stuff will be easier that way. Try and maintain the same tempo throughout whatever you play, many people end a song playing twice as fast as they started it.
Report Big Charlie September 1, 2009 12:43 AM BST
Tried to teach my niece Study, she can't hold the guitar properly, and she's cack-handed. I gave up after 30 minutes.

Mr O
there is an endless list of songs you can play quite easily once you hold down strings properly, as Study says, with your fingertips.

And again as he says, and my old sensei said the same many years ago: 'Never sacrifice technique for speed.'

If you forget the long 'picking' intro to Hotel California, which you ain't ready for yet, the chord sequence itself is pretty easy, even though there are 7 or 8 chords in it.

Unless you're playing something pretty unusual, all songs come in chord sequences, thousands with 3 chords, same with 4 chords.

Learn a sequence, then shove a groups name iinto Google wiith the word 'chords', hit search, and Bobs your aunts husband.

Don't try Rodrigos Guitar Concerto for at least a week :^0
Report Big Charlie September 1, 2009 1:10 AM BST
ttt for his wigship.
Report BillKiller September 1, 2009 2:57 AM BST
How old is your niece, Charlie? Mine is seven and she's playing Horse With No Name. My nephew who is six can chew out Lay Lady Lay but he's had to stop because my sister says it's 'unsuitable'.

Anyway, he's going to be a boxer, he says. I laugh at him but with his shoulders and my sister's temper (if he controls it) I won't be laughing in ten year's time.
Report wit-ham September 1, 2009 7:48 AM BST
A challenge has been set. I need to play a recognisable song on the guitar (and sing along) by Christmas.

I need your sage advice. Imagine (and I know this will be difficult)


think you picked this yourself big o
Report Big Charlie September 1, 2009 10:13 AM BST
Hello Bill, good to see you again.

My niece is 15, and her best friend, Lauren, was given an electric guitar for her birthday. Laurens brother plays, so he taught her a few 'power chords' and how to hold it properly. She can now smash out some songs and can also jump up and down while doing it, which is apparently compulsory if you're between 13 and 19. :^0

Niece, however, is cack-handed, like me. But I was taught by a right hander and found it easy. She can't grip the guitar properly, and moans that it hurts her fingers. I tried simple chords like E minor but she even has trouble holding down the 4th and 5th strings without blocking the 3rd string, because, as Study pointed out, she won't bend her wrist.

'Lauren doesn't do that.' is all I get when I ask her to bend her wrist.

She's not pounding my electric guitar, so I told her to let Lauren teach her. :)
Report Joe Jordan September 1, 2009 10:50 AM BST
I tried simple chords like E minor
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OMG ...BIG C is getting all technical now :0 :0
Report Big Charlie September 1, 2009 5:03 PM BST
E minor

-------------I--------------------------E
-------------1--------------------------B
-------------I--------------------------G
---------2---I--------------------------D
-------1-----I--------------------------A
--------------I--------------------------E
first fret...^

1 = 1st finger
2 = 2nd finger

Simples :)
Report overboard September 1, 2009 5:23 PM BST
Orioles
The key is bringing your left hand in cleanly ( assuming you are indeed right handed).
Best tip I read on this was put a credit card on a table. Now pick it up with your left hand. THAT is the shape you need to transfer to the fretboard.
I could teach you to play Michael Rowed the Boat in about 10 minutes. Easily win your bet. Another good tip above was don't get too caught up with the strumming. Just do it. It will come out ok in the end and will be intuitive. Too many people look at their right hand instead of their left.
Report Banquo September 1, 2009 5:36 PM BST
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine...
We talked until 11 and then she said 'It's time for RON NASTY'S BEATLEMANIA.'

The good ol' days.
Report Tommy Toes September 1, 2009 5:39 PM BST
Very good Banquo!
Report Tom Petty is God September 1, 2009 5:55 PM BST
:)
Report Big Charlie November 2, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
How's it going your wigship ?

What have you mastered so far ?
Report orioles November 2, 2009 11:26 PM GMT
On Christmas day, to the open-mouthed amazement of friends and family, I shall be taking to the stage to perform 'The Only Living Boy in New York'.

They'd better clap too, or they'll be turfed out on their ears on Boxing Day morning, the freeloading **os.
Report treble November 2, 2009 11:27 PM GMT
Love it Orioles.

What exactly is the meaning of this? Are you having an xmas day talent contest?
Report orioles November 2, 2009 11:34 PM GMT
A challenge was made, Treble. One that could not be ignored.

It has nothing whatever to do with my over-inflated ego :|
Report Big Charlie November 2, 2009 11:35 PM GMT
C...................... F
Tom-, get your plane right on time.

C..................F
I know your part'll go fine.

C.............F Am7 Dm7 F
Fly- down to Mexico---

G......................F
Do-n-da-da-n-da-da-n-da-da and here I am-

..C .................F........C..F...C..Dm7
The only living boy in New York.

..C............................F
I get the news I need from the weather report-

.....C.................................F
I can gather all the news I need from the weather report-

C..................F..C..Dm....Dm7
Hey- I've got nothing to do to-day but smile

G................... F
Do-n-da-da-n-da-n-da-da-n here I am-

....C................F........Am
The only living boy in New York.

Dm....................G7............C
Half of the time we're gone, but we don't know where

..............F.
And we don't know where-

C......................F
Tom- , get your plane right on time.

C..........................F
I know that you've been eager to fly now-

C.................F....C.....Dm...F
Hey- , let your honesty shine, shine, shine now,

G.......................Fmaj7..Dm7..F
Do-n-da-da-n-da-da-n-do- like it shines on me.

C....................F
The only living boy in New York.

C....................F..........C
The only living boy in New York.
Report orioles November 2, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
That's the one.

What a treat they have in store!
Report Joe Jordan November 2, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
Yes ..2x Turkeys on one day :D
Report Big Charlie November 2, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
Will it be going on Youtube so we can all suffer ?
Report Joe Jordan November 2, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
BC ^^
Report orioles November 2, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
I think that's probably about the size of it :)
Report Joe Jordan November 2, 2009 11:47 PM GMT
;-)
Report orioles November 2, 2009 11:47 PM GMT
NO, J!

I think the world has suffered enough.
Report Joe Jordan November 2, 2009 11:48 PM GMT
pictures of matchstick men -- you can't go wrong
Report treble November 2, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
Blimey, thats an incredibly easy song to play!

not to put any pressure on you Orioles :)
Report orioles November 3, 2009 12:00 AM GMT
I will be performing Rachmaninoff's third piano concerto in the evening.

To be fair.
Report Big Charlie November 3, 2009 12:11 AM GMT
I played Griegs piano concerto in front of the school when I was 13.

A bus ran me over.
Report overboard November 3, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
Bloody hell Orioles, that's a lot of horrid F chords in there. Make sure you take the easy way out and barre the 1st fret and play an E shape. F played at the first fret is a killer for anyone.
Report Big Charlie November 3, 2009 12:30 PM GMT
Ther only bar he knows is where he gets a Babycham.
Report Big Charlie November 3, 2009 11:48 PM GMT
Orioles (and other guitarists) have a look at this. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays&feature=player_embedded
Report positively4thsteet November 4, 2009 7:42 PM GMT
Redemption song by Bob Marley. piece of fkin**. only a moron couldn't master that within minutes.

On second thoughts.
Report Big Charlie November 4, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
Where's the Big O ?
Report Big Charlie November 5, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
Coooooeeeee Mr O.
Report Big Charlie November 6, 2009 9:13 PM GMT
The 00-48 link :)
Report orioles November 6, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
Fantastic :)

I suggest we perform that at the next Chit Chat Christmas party, J!
Report redbag November 6, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
FACK ME IT,LL BE LIKE THE PROCLAIMERS REVISITED :(
Report orioles November 6, 2009 9:47 PM GMT
You're just jealous, Red, because you want to sit on BC's knee and play his instrument.
Report Big Charlie November 6, 2009 9:58 PM GMT
I've played that tune by 5 different people on youtuibe, now I can't get it out of my facking head :(
Report orioles November 6, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
lol, I was just looking for a book and, as I looked along the shelves, I realised I was whistling Tico Tico!
Report Big Charlie November 6, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
I can play a bit of anything really, but I can't play as well as that and I've got long thin fingers.
Report bobby2424 November 6, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
By christmas day Big O will be impressing the peeps with music on his guitar like this :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjA5faZF1A8
Report Big Charlie November 6, 2009 10:52 PM GMT
Can't turn the sound up Bobby as the wife's asleep (got no earphones) but it must be popular with 65 million views.

I'll play it in the morning.
Report revengeofpaddy February 3, 2012 1:16 AM GMT
How did it go O?
Report twomatchpoints February 3, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
bobby2424, that video has gone.

This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content.
Report orioles February 3, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
Sad to say, ROP, it was another calamitous wager on my behalf.

Despite some excellent advice on this thread (and quite a lot of practice) I didn't do justice to the song. I'd played it a few times no problem-ish, but on the big day, when I struggled, I whistled or hummed the part.

The crowd thought it was hilarious, but I was crushed - and several good bottles of wine down. The forfeit will remain a secret.

And yes, it was filmed Plain
Report twomatchpoints February 3, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
Put in on youtube, you know you want to. DevilCool
Report revengeofpaddy February 3, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
The forfeit can remain a secret but the video should be posted out of fairness for those who helped.Happy
Report orioles February 3, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
Listen, Laurel an' 'ardy,that film will go with me to my grave!
Report call me a taxi November 1, 2014 10:52 AM GMT
The Big O should be ready for this by now.

.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS8eVFq1ZdU


Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (acoustic)
Report STUDYFORM November 1, 2014 12:17 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays

Or this. With a friend, of course.
Report call me a taxi November 1, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
I put that on the previous page, Study.
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