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Officials at Cheltenham expect the Festival to get underway on close to soft ground, with the start of the showpiece meeting now only a fortnight away.

Like much of the country, Prestbury Park has endured a predominantly wet winter, but a rare dry weekend has given clerk of the course Jon Pullin reason for optimism.

“As everyone will be very well aware, we’ve had a very wet build up this year,” he said on Tuesday.

“Thankfully, the rain held off over the weekend and it’s the first 48 hours of dry weather we’ve had for a number of weeks, which has allowed us to at least get on and start to mow this week, which was very much needed, so I’m pleased that we got that window.

“We’d be soft ground, as you can imagine with the rain that we’ve had, and the cross country would be heavy in places as well.”

While further rain is forecast in the coming days, Pullin is not expecting a huge swing in conditions either way ahead of day one of the Festival on March 12.

He added: “The forecast for the next seven to 10 days remains unsettled. Thursday looks as if it could be quite wet, but apart from that it’s just little bits and pieces.

“We’ll see how we go, but if that forecast remains, we’ll have similar ground to what we do now for the start of the Festival, I would imagine.

“There’s nothing scary I’m seeing in the forecast at the moment. We’ve been fortunate we’ve been a lot milder this year than last and the grass covering has been good.

“We did put a bit of fleece down on the New course in the home straight for a couple of weeks, just to kickstart the recovery there, but the grass is looking really well after the cut this morning, so we’re pleased with where we are at this stage.”
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Report brandyontherocks February 28, 2024 11:27 AM GMT
Good or good to firm, then
Report Tiger Tiger February 28, 2024 11:34 AM GMT
In days gone by the festival aklways started on good ground, then they statered watering for no reason at all.
Report nocturnal February 28, 2024 12:20 PM GMT
"Pulltheotherone and Cheltenham are delighted to have on board official ground sponsors Jason And The Argonauts"
Report brandyontherocks March 6, 2024 6:34 PM GMT
Ground continues to dry.
Soft going all round currently. (If you take their word for it)
Report Fistfulofdollars March 7, 2024 12:35 PM GMT
I live 20 mins walk from the track and can confirm there have been drying days since Sunday, albeit cool. For me I would see it moving to good to soft by now on all but the cross country. I don't know where the clerk of the course gets his forecast for 5-8mm of rain on Saturday-Sunday as all forecasts that I've looked at suggest half of those ranges for the two days. In other words little rain between now and the first day and also little rain predicted for most of the four days. There seems to be some dispute about the Friday - best/warmest day of the week or some rain depending on the forecast you look at. I do hope the watering can twitcher doesn't se fit to just make sure before day one....as has happened in the past..
Report strontium March 7, 2024 12:48 PM GMT
What ground would people choose for the Festival? Genuine soft ground doesn't seem in appropriate to me for a National Hunt festival (though I'd prefer it natural rather than watered).
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 7, 2024 11:06 PM GMT
Go on met office website
Type in Cheltenham racecourse
Than click on map
There rain about Saturday Sunday
Report rothko March 8, 2024 11:57 AM GMT
they can just about forecast 24 hours when there is low pressure and fronts blowing through so quickly
Report FOYLESWAR March 8, 2024 12:27 PM GMT
soft seems fair to me !
Report geoff m March 10, 2024 7:50 AM GMT
7mm overnight ground reverted back to soft
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:11 AM GMT
dry all week then a small amount of rain & its soft again

the cheltenham festival 1911-2017
RIP
Report strontium March 10, 2024 10:53 AM GMT
I'm not sure what anyone can do about a wet winter, Wonders.
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 11:51 AM GMT
water less in drier periods
Report strontium March 10, 2024 12:02 PM GMT
So potentially sacrifice the meetings in October/November/December/January? It's an option, but a drastic one.
Report brandyontherocks March 10, 2024 12:18 PM GMT
This year you can not blame the over watering of courses by coc for the current soft ground.
The water table is so high at the moment.
Our paddocks were just starting to dry out this week, but the rain last night and today, and they are swimming again.
Report FOYLESWAR March 10, 2024 12:52 PM GMT
what part of the country  are you brandy
Report brandyontherocks March 10, 2024 1:38 PM GMT
Buckinghamshire
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 10, 2024 7:48 PM GMT
Another weather front on its way Tuesday
With rain
Report FOYLESWAR March 10, 2024 9:25 PM GMT
ok cheers brandy good luck.
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:28 PM GMT
strontium • March 10, 2024 12:02 PM GMT
So potentially sacrifice the meetings in October/November/December/January?


sounds like the cart being put before the horse imo

I'm old enough to remember bula hurdle meeting in december being run on g/f and it was never a problem then (although it would be now with modern attitudes & training routines)
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:30 PM GMT
cheltenham have 2 tracks no reason why they couldn't use 1 as watered for autumn & winter fixtures leaving the other for march
Report strontium March 10, 2024 10:32 PM GMT
Yes, which is why they (sometimes) need to water now. Cheltenham gets big crowds, particularly in November and new year's day, not to mention media rights and levy money. They can't work around the festival alone.
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:33 PM GMT
NYD circa 10k festival 60k+ each day
Report strontium March 10, 2024 10:35 PM GMT
They run october & November on the old course, then it's left until March. Dec & Jan are run on the new course, with the last 2 days of the festival. It would fundamentally change the character of races like the Champion Hurdle and Champion Chase if they were moved to the new course. Even if the old course could take all the other meetings.
Report strontium March 10, 2024 10:35 PM GMT
Nyd often 45,000.
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:43 PM GMT
I wouldn't change anything just water less
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:43 PM GMT
if october has to be run on g/f so be it
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:44 PM GMT
same in april
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:46 PM GMT
exeter have found that out the hard way because the surface is fooked beyond belief there during cooper's tenure
Report wondersobright March 10, 2024 10:46 PM GMT
and they are 1 of a long list
Report brandyontherocks March 11, 2024 5:53 AM GMT
No one is disagreeing with you that all courses are over watered.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with the going at the moment.
Everywhere is saturated.
Report wondersobright March 11, 2024 12:22 PM GMT
all courses are over watered.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with the going at the moment


if you can't see the contradiction there then you are beyond help
Report wondersobright March 11, 2024 12:28 PM GMT
look at tracks that use flat tracks as hurdle course & have liberally watered chase track
sandown, leics, carlisle (outer hurdles track) etc

they experience the same weather but produce vastly different going on their hurdle & chase tracks
2+2=?
Report brandyontherocks March 11, 2024 3:26 PM GMT
Best of luck.
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