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14 Oct 19 19:37
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Made my initial plays:

3/1 Paisley Park (Stayers)

5/2 Benie Des Dieux (plus Hills boost)

Also the 12/1 double
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Report impossible123 October 24, 2019 2:42 PM BST
After a horrendous Flat season I'm looking forward to this but, flummoxed by the possibles of my probable selections other than Paisley Park and Klassical Dream/Buveur D'Air (possible) eg Samcro (JLT/RSA) and Altior (Ryanair/Gold Cup).
Report foxy October 28, 2019 7:58 PM GMT
I would be amazed if altior got the trip in a strongly run gold cup,over the last few days the jump season really got going with some really promising novice chasers.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! October 31, 2019 2:51 PM GMT
Noted Mullins in todays paper
Suggesting Benie may go for the stayers!!!

Report impossible123 November 1, 2019 7:09 PM GMT
After the sweet run by Samcro he's a definite for me in The JLT; Lostintranslation/Santini/Altior (if he wins The King George pulling away) for the Gold Cup.
Report irishone November 2, 2019 8:53 AM GMT
Sweet run ?

Go and watch it again, then again, then again until you see that gordon has got 4 months to sort it out ....and he might not be able to
Report duffy November 3, 2019 7:55 PM GMT
Black op has put in the most impressive jumping display from what we've seen so far without question for me from the novices, my only worry is that it's take 2 for him.
Report buddeliea November 4, 2019 12:20 PM GMT
Samcro needs to stop jumping right handed,that will prevent him winning top races at Cheltenham.
Report buddeliea November 7, 2019 6:09 PM GMT
Champ impressed me today, nice start to his chasing career, and given his novice hurdling performances, I can see him going all the way to the top over fences,
Report duffy November 7, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
Impressed me too,5/1 for the RSA is bonkers though at this point.
Report buddeliea November 7, 2019 7:37 PM GMT
Blimey that is rather short,but i had a feeling there would be a reaction if he jumped well and won today.

Done him in a double with B Dair this morning, was only 8/1 then.
Report harry callaghan November 7, 2019 8:20 PM GMT
Impressed me too,5/1 for the RSA is bonkers though at this point.

totally agree he was ok but nothing more
Report buddeliea November 7, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
What more would be expected?
First time over fences,no errors of note and won fairly comfortably.
Be loads more to come with more experience.
5/1 is too short yes,but the top staying novice hurdler going chasing at the right age,and proved he can jump a fence.....the bookies wont take many chances with him.
Report harry callaghan November 7, 2019 9:23 PM GMT
like you say perfectly satisfactory
Report DontBeSakhee November 9, 2019 10:53 AM GMT
A couple I’m keeping my eye on today, and for aftertiming purposes, have backed AP:

Fusil Raffles at Wincanton, currently 16 for the CH. Usually avoid juveniles for the CH, but won his two races last year impressively, and likely any value will disappear, assuming he wins today.

Longhouse Poet at Naas, currently 33 for the Ballymore. Fast way to the poorhouse backing in novice hurdles/chases at this point of the season, but as a ptp winner and a pretty impressive Bumper winner I’m happy to have a few quid at the price. Not totally convinced about the ground, but connections won the Ballymore last year.
Report buddeliea November 9, 2019 12:01 PM GMT
Have a feeling Fusil Raffles will go all the way to the top over hurdles,for me just a question how long it will take him.
Was really impressed with him when I saw him at Kempton last season.
Have got him in a few accas at the festival at fair prices, but of course still only a 4yr old.
Report FOYLESWAR November 9, 2019 1:00 PM GMT
a poster on the horses forum last season said "fusil raffles is rated  at least equal to pentland hils at home " ,take that how you will but they obviously think a bit of him . and the champion is looking very open .
Report DontBeSakhee November 9, 2019 2:46 PM GMT
Was gutted last year, backed FR for the Triumph before he ran in the Adonis in the hope of finding some value against the ill fated Sir Erec. 331/1 and couldn’t have hoped for a better run, but wasn’t to be.
Report DontBeSakhee November 9, 2019 2:46 PM GMT
Clearly that should be 33!
Report DontBeSakhee November 9, 2019 4:57 PM GMT

Encouraging run from Longhouse Poet, could be better for better ground and a bit further.

Fusil less impressive, have to hope he comes on for the run. Although Hendo suggested he would after.
Report duffy November 10, 2019 2:27 AM GMT
I think with Fusil Raffles and Pentland Hills I sense the narrative where PH isn't really going to get the credit he deserves perhaps through not coming from France but from being a more exposed flat horse from over here. I think that FR is carrying slightly a bit of hype and is perceived as the sexier horse.

I was very impressed with PH last season who was an easy Triumph winner who was then able to back it up at Aintree. He'd do for me at this stage.
Report FOYLESWAR November 10, 2019 6:25 AM GMT
agree with all of that duffy .
Report buddeliea November 10, 2019 9:24 AM GMT
Must admit I was a bit surprised and a tad disappointed with FR yesterday.....until I heard Hendo talking after the race.His next race will be interesting.

Yes, also be interesting to see PH in his first run this season.
Report FOYLESWAR November 10, 2019 10:02 AM GMT
some good uns out today ,santini ,melon,fakir ,apples jade ,etc, the jumpers really  starting to kick into gear now ,exciting times ahead .
Report harry callaghan November 10, 2019 2:10 PM GMT
god knows what elliott is going to do with all these novices, pure guess work for the punter trying to figure it all out ?
Report duffy November 10, 2019 2:29 PM GMT
Andy Dufresne was immensely impressive, I'd guess Neptune, didn't look like a grinder to me, reckon he's got a few gears, really taken with that initial run.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! November 14, 2019 7:01 PM GMT
Douvan wins impressively after 2 years out
over 2.5 miles
Trainer think he could cope with the 2 mile CHASE

10-1 SOUNDS fair

Report harry callaghan November 14, 2019 8:27 PM GMT
can't wait to see how this one pans out lucky luckyGrin
Report DontBeSakhee November 17, 2019 11:27 AM GMT
One of interest today, but not exactly a dark horse!

Decided to join the hype on Battleoverdoyen, AP at 16. Had a reasonable price last year for the Ballymore, but ran like a drain.
Report cufcno1 November 17, 2019 12:47 PM GMT
Lost a shoe straight away at Cheltenham so would forget about that run
Report chelters16 November 20, 2019 8:08 PM GMT
Battleoverdoyen looks pretty slow.
Report cufcno1 November 20, 2019 8:18 PM GMT
3milersixer ?
Report DontBeSakhee November 20, 2019 10:51 PM GMT
I suppose it’s what else is there in the 3 mile novice division this year.

There’s Champ given connections and good hurdle form, maybe Samcro, but will be kept away from BoD, so could be campaigned over shorter. Then we are looking at potential horses.

I would imagine that unless he starts losing, BoD will head to the RSA.

To be fair to him, it wasn’t a flashy win lto, but he did get the job done. Would’ve preferred to have seen him breeze past on the bridle winning 20 lengths, but when Davy said go, he did, and never looked like losing.

Will be interesting when upped in trip at Leopardstown over Xmas, it will certainly be a G1 against better horses, we’ll see what he’s made of then. My finger will be hovering over the cash out button!!
Report irishone November 20, 2019 11:31 PM GMT
Love this sh1te every year
If you are getting racing t v
Keep watching the irish jumps
Well in front this year
What makes me laugh is leaving
A punchestown novice hurdle
Two seconds after its finished
For a selling handicap at sedge,
Or a beginners chase left without comment
For micky mouse maifen from ludlow
Chepstow or fontwell
Like shopping in harrods
And shopping in aldi
Brilliant LaughLaughLaughCrazyCrazy
Report miltons sophie November 21, 2019 8:42 AM GMT
Agree Irish novices look very impressive might be wise to keep in mind the exams are taken in March and its ‘o levels’ not GCSE’s . You get no marks for course work. And just to clarify I would say the same if a poster in another year said the same but in reverse. Am I alone in despising this tribal rubbish?
Report miltons sophie November 21, 2019 9:43 AM GMT
The most frustrating thing for me is that you have the seed of a really good point. You plant the seed and for some reason you pour acid all over it so it cannot grow. FWIW I agree that there is too much emphasis on quantity and not quality irrespective of which side of the pond and I lost faith in rtv a long time ago and cancelled my membership.
Report irishone November 24, 2019 9:34 PM GMT
Milton for me its all about hegemony in sport, its probably one of the best examples you can find currently
It ranks alongside the negative evaluations of women jockeys capacities which were prevalent for decades on dedicated horse racing shows like c4 on saturday mornings.
I personally dont want it to stop. I just laugh at it along with many others.... And we get the value!
Report irishone November 24, 2019 9:37 PM GMT
PS do get marks for coursework in gcse mate !
Report miltons sophie November 25, 2019 7:56 AM GMT
sure It’s about Hegemony. I for one understand how you feel, how could I not you ram it down our throats and turn many threads into a political vent which of course is your right. I am on here because it is a Cheltenham thread.

Secondly I seem to remember (apologies if I confused you with another poster) one time that stated you have no desire to get to know me and that the whole point of forums is you don’t have to so in response I am not your mate.

Thirdly  and back to Cheltenham .. I wrote it’s NOT GCSE’s .It is O LEVELS so I obviously meant that you get no marks for coursework come March it is 100% on the day ..... like O Levels and not like GCSE’S  reading a post is the written equivalent of listening to others ... what a shock.
Report miltons sophie November 25, 2019 8:03 AM GMT
Forum not thread
Report irishone November 25, 2019 4:39 PM GMT
"And just to clarify I would say the same if a poster in another year said the same but in reverse"

You wrote something that you immediately thought somebody else would read and interpret in the same way as you.

Sorry I didn't wait the year (couldn't resist the opportunity)

I just said the same as you , but in reverse.

I reversed your comment that "you get no marks for coursework" in GCSE's.

Why come back angry and trying to teach me three lessons?

All about dominance .....Laugh
Report irishone November 25, 2019 4:57 PM GMT
GCE s. Not GCSE s
Report irishone November 25, 2019 4:57 PM GMT
Report miltons sophie November 25, 2019 5:31 PM GMT
apologies for taking focus off of the BOD discussion. My understanding is he did not travel over well last year. Does anybody know the circumstances and does anybody know how this can be prevented moving forward. He seems to me to be every inch a staying chaser and is on my RSA shortlist but I am worried about the travel element (possibly because of my own ignorance).

Also totally gutted bout the bright forecast news
Report irishone November 25, 2019 6:59 PM GMT
battleoverdoyen did not eat or drink as well as he should of done last year at cheltenham, the elliot horses avoided the storm, went over early. They were trying a tongue tie on him because he had a respiratory problem as did most of the team last year. His performance at galway was first class and puts him right up there with the best but .....he didnt beat anything.
Report miltons sophie November 25, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
Great. That’s really helpful. Thank you
Report woodmanchester February 26, 2020 11:36 PM GMT
Taken stock and apart from duo at the head of thread, looking for big runs:

Envoi Allen
Tiger Roll
Report impossible123 February 27, 2020 9:21 AM GMT
Your initial plays Paisley Park and Benie 3/1 and 5/2 respectively are looking tasty. Hope they ru very well.
Report Deptford February 27, 2020 6:06 PM GMT
impossibe, do not beloeve anything woody posts, he is a fooking fruitcake.
Report irishone February 27, 2020 6:51 PM GMT
Two of tgem are !
Report Try My Best February 28, 2020 12:16 AM GMT
I think it's going to be a bookies bonanza this year. Lots of horses at the head of the markets look pretty poor value to me. Will be a layer this year.
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