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FOYLESWAR
11 Mar 19 08:53
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having already backed buevair dair have been looking for a backup ,no harm in having a few eggs in your basket and this one appeals as one who could offer a bit of value at around 25 on here , the 3 at the front of the market take out a huge chunk and on paper it looks between the 3 but this one is a bit of a dark un , small  but able yard and is a graded race winner who we dont know how good he is or can be going should be no problem and a strong traveller ,needs to find a good bit but looks to be progressing ,had 9 races won 8 of them not to shabby ............selection champion hurdle espoir d,allen 25 or better win and place good luck an keep the change ya filthy animals .
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Report Callisto-moon March 11, 2019 7:55 AM GMT
not a hope in hells chance.
Report FOYLESWAR March 11, 2019 7:58 AM GMT
cheers tree thanks for the heads up
i will increase my bet forthwith !
Report buddeliea March 11, 2019 8:00 AM GMT
just taken 25 with c0ral,interesting outsider imo
Report FOYLESWAR March 11, 2019 8:09 AM GMT
good luck budd .
Report Callisto-moon March 11, 2019 8:09 AM GMT
did you like my reasoning?

seriously though im laying this one
Report Callisto-moon March 11, 2019 8:19 AM GMT
so you understand its chances there is more chance of me winning the premiership darts,
Report josef k March 11, 2019 10:14 AM GMT
Jumping the way this horse does is fine for those egg n spoon races but losing a length at each hurdle it won't know which way they've gone by halfway tomorrow.
Report buddeliea March 11, 2019 10:54 AM GMT
cheers foyles, you too mate
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 3:36 PM GMT
ahem !
Report okthen March 12, 2019 3:40 PM GMT
slick jumper, always had a great chance imo!
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 3:54 PM GMT
well done tree i know ya backed it ya little tinker !
Report geoff m March 12, 2019 4:00 PM GMT
Great shout .Well done .Foyles/Budd.
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 4:02 PM GMT
thanks geoff !
Report penzance March 12, 2019 4:31 PM GMT
OP
hope your festival's paid for.
   vwd
   GL
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 4:34 PM GMT
and some!  thanks penzance ,once in a while it falls into place .
Report impossible123 March 12, 2019 4:40 PM GMT
Well done 'Foyle and budd'!
Report Catch Me ifyoucan March 12, 2019 4:44 PM GMT
WD, a winners a winner, but a p1ss poor Champ Hdl you must admit?
Report buddeliea March 12, 2019 5:59 PM GMT
Cheers lads....gutted to see BD fall but great performance from ED,superb.
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 6:12 PM GMT
well done budd ,nice to start the festival on the front foot ! good luck for the rest of it .
Report buddeliea March 12, 2019 6:14 PM GMT
Thanks Foyles,well done and good luck for you too mate
Report geoff m March 12, 2019 6:22 PM GMT
hope Callisto didnt go in 2 heavy on the lay.?
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 6:24 PM GMT
townend and mullins did a great job keeping apples company and  preventing her an easy lead softended her up before 2 out .thought it would be sharjah doing that .
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 6:26 PM GMT
by callistos comments i think he probably backed the winner or at least layed the front 2  ,think i can read him in some of his posts !
Report nocturnal March 12, 2019 6:32 PM GMT
WP Foyles / Budd ......That should set you up for the week Cool
Report buddeliea March 12, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Well i had a few losing bets as well noc, but it certainly helps,got a tad lucky with Roksana as well.
We all need a bit of luck at Cheltenham!!.
Report buddeliea March 12, 2019 6:59 PM GMT
Not that i thought ED was a lucky win,he was very impressive,and i think would have beaten BD,although of course we will never know for sure.
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2019 7:13 PM GMT
cheers noc ,yeah it helps ! good luck
Report Callisto-moon March 13, 2019 6:33 AM GMT
absolutely spot on call here foyles I hope you have had a few £££ away from the bookies.
Report FOYLESWAR March 13, 2019 6:58 AM GMT
thanks tree, yes won a nice few quid ,hope you did as well good luck !
Report wellchief April 1, 2019 8:29 PM BST
Only just come across this thread now, good shout Foyles.

It was a poor Champion Hurdle, but can't be impressed about how effortless it was for Espoir (to be fair, he beat Melon, who is 165, and Silver Streak who is 156 by 15 lengths, so is easily a 170 performance).  The run of Wicklow Brave in the Coral Cup shows he's a good one - Espoir walked all over him giving him a chunk of weight and then Wicklow gets chinned on the line in the Coral Cup off top weight.

I think he'll be really tough to beat next year, and Beveur has some serious questions to answer at Aintree now after his Christmas Hurdle and a fall out of three races.  If Pentland Hills and Band of Outlaws both turn up at Aintree on Thursday, that's a mouth watering contest and if one of them wins well they could easily halve in price for the Champion.


Maybe something will come out of the woodwork next year (hands up who though Espoir D'Allen would win at this point last year?), but I honestly cannot see past him, being a year stronger and not too much looking like it will come through.  From what I can see, he has just won the Champion Hurdle by the biggest margin in Champion Hurdle history - that surely deserves more recognition than it has actually got??
Report wellchief April 1, 2019 8:30 PM BST
* but can't help be impressed about how effortless it was
Report FOYLESWAR April 2, 2019 12:35 PM BST
cheers wellchief good to see ya back , think the winner will be underated by the media and many punters ,  the general consensus will be the front 3 underperformed for one reason or another beuvair has valid excuses and the winners price means he may well be overlooked . before the race it looked a strong renewal and as you say the winner won by a record distance . who knows how good this one can be ? put it this way if any one of apples jade ,beuvair dair or laurina did what he did it would be described as a sensational   performance . around 11/2 and reportedly wont bee seen till next  season i dont think he will shorten much  so not a bet yet  . a bit early but  anyway one that interests me  is band of outlaws, on the up, course form and a price i have had a dabble at around those prices has potential and a lot to like atm.imo.
Report FOYLESWAR April 2, 2019 12:42 PM BST
those prices i e around 20- 25s ish on here ^^
Report FOYLESWAR April 2, 2019 1:12 PM BST
been said before   but if you can ignore the  hype and take a balanced view then you can use the "hype" to your advantage . i decided to ignore those chelt preview panels this year as the "info " is conflicting and very often misleading and i will be doing the same next year .
Report buddeliea April 2, 2019 1:52 PM BST
Did not see one preview this year,got steadily fed up with them over last few years.
Like you Foyles I will stick with that now.

As for the Champion Hurdle, I have a feeling we could have a future multiple winner on our hands as hes a young horse and probably room for further improvement. Yes the race fell apart with the main threats, but it was still impressive what he did.
Having said that I would not write BD off just yet, although Chief is right when he says he has questions to answer.
I think Thursday we will see an impressive victory as I think its his ideal distance. Hope so anyway.
Report duffy April 2, 2019 4:03 PM BST
ED will have to do it again for me .
Report duffy April 2, 2019 4:23 PM BST
I enjoy watching the previews myself, not as a winner searching exercise, most of my betting is I/R so I'm deciding from when the race starts really, but the previews just serve as for the most part a light hearted a part of the build up that gets you excited for the real thing, it's like getting the tree out for xmas or buying the prezzies.Happy
Report wellchief April 2, 2019 7:14 PM BST
I agree Duffy, I think ED will need to back up his Champion Hurdle because we sometimes get carried away with these 'too good to be true' performances, but for me, I see no reason why he couldn't repeat it.  If it was a novice hurdle I would be very dubious, because we often see wide margin winners in those, but not in Champion Hurdles.

I love the way he was given a really low key prep by his trainer, building him up towards the Champion without putting the gun to his head too soon, being only a five year old.  I do get the impression though that if he'd been wearing those silks with NJ Henderson or a certain pink and green silks with WP Mullins next to his name, he'd lauded as the second coming.

For the Aintree Hurdle its got to be Faugheen all day to me, who is a knocking bet at 7/1.  Didn't quite get home in the Stayers but travelled with some of the old zest, so I think 2m4f for him is perfect now.  Plus, he has always trained on well into Punchestown - I know Aintree is a bit sooner than usual but he has won at Punchy every year after the Festival, and Willie rarely brings them to Aintree, so he must think he has a great chance.

I respect Beveur D'Air immensely, I do think 2m4f is right up his street, but after a loss at Kempton, a racecourse gallop at 1/5 and then a fall, I cannot have him evens/odds on in a hot contest.
Report FOYLESWAR April 12, 2019 9:36 PM BST
had 10 races total and not hard to expect improvement next season . can see a similar campaign to this season ,been sticking a few  spare tenners and fivers on him  for next seasons champ hurdle at around 5.7 ish and will continue to as barring  hendos pentland there dont look to be a lot coming through .
Report GAZO April 12, 2019 10:11 PM BST
difficult to knock the horse,unless every horse ran poor in this years champion hurdle it was a top performance and if he was trained by hendo,nicholls,mullins or elliot that 5 would probally be a 3
Report Movewiththetimes June 19, 2019 5:34 PM BST
What's the news on the horse not in betting now.
Report irishone June 20, 2019 9:28 AM BST
.....heard being lined up for galway hurdle, more prizemoney than champion hurdle and better class
Report TheFlyingMuscovite August 13, 2019 12:01 PM BST
Sad to read horse is injured and unlikely to run in upcoming season. A great shame.
Report foxy August 13, 2019 1:48 PM BST
Just announced on rte a freak accident last week when horse was spooked unlikely to race this season.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 23, 2019 5:11 PM BST
Unfortunately didn't survive

RIP
Report shlotter August 23, 2019 8:25 PM BST
CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry
Report buddeliea August 24, 2019 9:27 AM BST
So awful and sad for connections, and so sad for us Cheltenham lovers....absolutely gutted.
He was so impressive when winning the CH at 5 years old, and really could have gone on to be anything....possibly one of the best ever.
Sadly we will never know.

RIP.
Report sageform August 25, 2019 12:46 PM BST
Very sad indeed. He didn't really get the credit on the day with others falling or running below form. Another example of how hard it is to follow up in the Championship races.
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