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delsie777
07 Feb 17 20:01
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Just wondered who the top man will be riding for. Edwulf for JP perhaps? Or does Elliot have something for him?

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By:
mincer11
When: 07 Feb 17 20:25
Whatever it is , it will win if it's within a stone of being the best horse in the race, because the biggest gap in racing right now is between Jamie Codd and the rest of the amateurs. He's basically a pro against amateurs and the British amateurs, a bit like their professional counterparts are miles behind even the ordinary Irish amateurs
By:
GI MAC
When: 07 Feb 17 20:56
......the biggest gap in racing right now is between Jamie Codd and the rest of the amateurs

think Derek O'Conner might disagree with that..
By:
moat
When: 07 Feb 17 23:17
Is Katie Walsh not an Amature Cheltenham winners including against the pros Irish Grand National and many more unless ive missed something obvios and she is not in the race or an amature id say the above statement is pretty strong to say the least.
By:
Ramruma
When: 08 Feb 17 02:37
He's basically a pro against amateurs and the British amateurs, a bit like their professional counterparts are miles behind even the ordinary Irish amateurs

You do realise we can watch Irish racing on the telly now and see how bloody awful some of their jocks are?
By:
Hubert
When: 08 Feb 17 09:36
Did Derek O'Connor ride Minella Rocco in the 4 miler last year?
By:
Jb23
When: 08 Feb 17 11:00

Feb 8, 2017 -- 9:36AM, Hubert wrote:


Did Derek O'Connor ride Minella Rocco in the 4 miler last year?


Yeah. Pretty sure JJ got off Minella to ride Noble Endeavour.  From memory JJ was booked to ride Minella weeks before Cheltenham. May be wrong however

By:
JackieMoon33
When: 08 Feb 17 11:48
Derek O'Connor jumped ship 3 times in the lead up to the race. During the preview nights he was all set to ride Southfield Royale, he then switched to Native River before eventually picking Minella Rocco at the last minute.

From memory Codd was always down to ride Noble Endeavour.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 08 Feb 17 11:53
I thought he was booked for Native River originally and got off that one to ride Noble Endeavour?
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 08 Feb 17 11:59
Apologies, you are correct Jackie - you obviously have a better memory than me.

I had to cheat and read last year's thread on amateur jockey bookings.
By:
Jb23
When: 08 Feb 17 15:04
^^ What he said ha!
By:
Jb23
When: 13 Feb 17 16:34
Apparently Codd has been booked for A Genie in Abottle in the 4 miler. 12s into 8s pretty rapidly
By:
Jb23
When: 13 Feb 17 16:40
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10766786/noel-meade-looking-at-jlt-novice-chase-for-disko

Discussing some of his other Festival plans, the trainer continued: "A Genie In Abottle runs in the four-mile race (National Hunt Chase) and Jamie Codd has agreed to ride him.

"He was beaten by Tony Martin's horse (Anibale Fly) in Naas the last day, but he's a Grade One performer and there was no disgrace in that.

"He stays very well and his jumping has been very good up to this point.
By:
Ramruma
When: 13 Feb 17 17:28
Softer the better for A Genie in Abottle perhaps? The 4-miler is on the first day though so will get the maximum benefit from Simon Claisse's watering can.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 13 Feb 17 18:15
Having already backed the horse, delighted with the news about Codd.

I don't think he needs soft ground particularly Ramruna. By Beneficial out of a Supreme Leader mare. Won his point on Good to Firm and ran an excellent race behind Martello Tower earlier in the season on decent ground. As you say, best chance of it being the softer side of good on Tuesday and should be no excuses on that front imo.
By:
wellchief
When: 13 Feb 17 18:41
Opposite for me CCM - was going to back him and now gutted I missed the 12's.

When I was going through the RSA yesterday and picked out Balko Des Flos and I noticed Genie battered him last time out, so if I like Balko for the RSA, I've have to have a little bit on Genie in the 4 miler.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 13 Feb 17 18:45
Still 10's mate?
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 13 Feb 17 18:46
Blimey just looked again. 8's already! Didn't realise it had dropped so quickly. Unlucky mate Sad
By:
wellchief
When: 13 Feb 17 18:51
Just taken the 8's mate - down to 6/1 and 11/2 with the NRNB firms, so can see him getting a good bit shorter yet.
By:
JimmyfaeForth
When: 15 Feb 17 14:04
Any idea what derek O'Connor is set to ride guys,these 2 jockeys are the pick of the amateurs in my opinion,ps I got a bit of 20's on the genie  happy days
By:
deepingfox
When: 15 Feb 17 21:25
Torrid price for Fav now.
By:
sageform
When: 16 Feb 17 19:20
I am still a Premier Bond fan for this race.
By:
deepingfox
When: 16 Feb 17 20:34
Beware The Bear
By:
shockster
When: 18 Feb 17 18:58
Looks like Derek O'Connor will be on EDWULFin the 4 miler.  Mark Walsh rode him last month to comfortably beat Bachasson and that horse has today franked the form in fine style.

However, tomorrow Edwulf lines up in the Ten Up Novices Chase and Derek O'Connor is on board?  To me it can only mean one thing.  He's getting a spin on the horse before the Festival.

He's still available at 20/1, but I've played safe and taken 16/1 NRNB. Wink
By:
Ramruma
When: 19 Feb 17 09:13
Edwulf has two falls and an unseat from only eight runs.
By:
shockster
When: 19 Feb 17 11:26
All to be taken into account RAMRUMA.  I think he looks like he's going the right way.  Over obstacles when he finishes he's never been beaten by more than 12l (That was MIN) or he's won.  Obviously very consistent and has talent.  I think 16/1 NRNB is very fair. If he bombs today probably a NR.  If he wins/goes close he'll probably shorten.
By:
shockster
When: 19 Feb 17 18:00
As you said Ramruma Sad
By:
the bloob
When: 19 Feb 17 20:35
I fancy Champers on Ice and Emerging Force in this, fingers crossed they get decent jocks!
By:
The Dragon
When: 19 Feb 17 21:06
bp now 6/1Crazy
By:
shockster
When: 26 Feb 17 18:20
Looks like Edwulf is back on. Happy
By:
DontBeSakhee
When: 26 Feb 17 21:31
I like Edwulf, and also have backed, Shock. This is a race McManus targets and does well. With Mystical Knight (his other NH entry) fluffing his lines yesterday at Chepstow, I'm hopeful they'll run him. Also, hopefully Derek O'Connor still takes the ride, despite being dumped onto the deck last time! Laugh I suspect today was a confidence booster before the Fes.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 26 Feb 17 21:43
Hopefully will still be the plan. Blown his mark for the Kim Muir and will surely favour this over the RSA?

Surprised Degsy didn't have another chance on him today though.
By:
DontBeSakhee
When: 26 Feb 17 21:48
Still a little worried about that RSA entry, but this form surely isn't up to that standard and also hopefully Coney Island will take that slot.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 26 Feb 17 21:49
O'Brien on Edwulf:

"Puppy (Power) gave him a great ride. He jumped very well today and I'm delighted with him," said O'Brien.

"I always thought he was better than a handicapper but his jumping has let him down all year. Hopefully he can keep things together now.

"He's in the four-miler and the RSA, and there is also the Leinster National back here. We'll see how he comes out of this and make a plan for him.

"He gets three miles, and he has as good a chance as any horse of getting four but you don't know until you run."
By:
DontBeSakhee
When: 26 Feb 17 21:52
Surely the Leinster National will not be a priority! Looks like degsy was riding at Borris House ptp today.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 26 Feb 17 21:54
Hope not! Just wonder why he wasn't given another chance if he will be riding him at the Festival though?

It's surely a worry now that the horse has jumped well and won without him, yet the only time they've been paired, it was over early?
By:
DontBeSakhee
When: 26 Feb 17 21:58
Well Geraghty was due to ride, perhaps with the aim to give a more assured confidence booster pre festival. Then perhaps degsy was already claimed to ride elsewhere so couldn't by the time his injury was announced?
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 26 Feb 17 22:00
Yes hadn't considered the Geraghty angle. Good point. Reckon you're spot on.
By:
DontBeSakhee
When: 26 Feb 17 22:03
That's what I'm hoping. More about giving the horse a confidence boost after a fall, at a shorter distance (rather than slogging 3 miles on heavy ground 2 weeks before the Fes), than O'Connor experience of the horse.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 26 Feb 17 22:07
Yep. And he will have plenty of time to school him to get to know him.
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