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Worth going for the Gold Cup this year with this one imo - next year they'll have Douvan to beat in it, and this year the owners have Fox Norton as an alternative for the Ryanair. Already looks like he'll stay all day, and they can test his stamina by going for the Irish Gold Cup first. Looks an excellent bet anyway at 66s or 33s if you can get non-runner no bet.
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I would say he is likely to end up in the Ryanair but as you say if you can get NR-NB what's too lose. He ran right to the line today and was as strong there as any other stage of the race and it appeared he would stay further so why not.
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Interesting that his new trainer has entered him in Irish and Cheltenham Gold Cups - also interesting that a lot of Potts' horses formerly with De Bromhead have also been upped in distance by Colin Tizzard this year most notably Viconte de Noyer. They might be tempted to trial him in the Irish Gold Cup to suss out his stamina still further so nrnb for the Gold Cup at 66s with PP is a limited downside no brainer imo
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Would only add that I thought the Tizzards bought Alary on behalf of the Potts' specifically as a Gold Cup contender so how he gets on at Haydock on Saturday might have an impact on the plans for Sizing John.
Impressive today, though and doing all his best work at the end. |
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Have always liked sizing John and feel he has been very unfortunate to be around the same time as douvan. He was very good today beating a good yardstick in second. When I watched him last year at aintree they stepped him up to 2 and a half miles to avoid douvan and he went off favourite but he was rather disappointing behind Arzal and looked a blatant non stayer to me, but another year older I'm pleased he has added a string to his bow by staying the intermediate trip but talk of gold cup is bonkers in my opinion Ryanair all the way for this one and I think he could go close!!!
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Fox Norton is a Champion Chase horse and Sizing John has no chance of staying the Gold Cup trip - Ryanair all the way unless Douvan misses the CC.
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Oh to be omniscient...
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I can teach you for £5,000.
 Tbh given my prescience in the Liverpool thread I should put my price up.  |
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looks Ryanair bound, and the 8/1 nrnb is very tasty thanks very much!
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Jessie Harrington says Sizing John runs in the Irish Gold Cup and depends on how he runs over the 3m trip as to where he goes at Cheltenham. This was on ATR yesterday afternoon.
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Thanks - a good start.
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Just had a bit of the 40/1 nrnb for the Gold Cup, too tempting to turn down.
Big run tomorrow and he's right in the mix and he could easily be single figure odds, if he doesn't stay then Ryanair bound and I'll get my money back |
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I've just had some of the 33/1 NRNB for the Gold Cup, just in case things go well today and they re-route. I love these NRNB bets!
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Things went well
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Well done lads,not me though unfortunately.
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I would prefer to see the horse in the Ryanair, but happy with 8/1 and 33/1 both NRNB
I'm surprised by the over-reaction on here to the win, beat a bunch of horses by just a few lengths, albeit decent ones, but nothing you could really fancy in the Gold Cup. I worry about the trip, 2 races ago the horse had barely run beyond 2 miles |
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stan james as short
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Well he just beat Don't Poli who had Djakadam behind him last time.
Open to all sorts of improvement and unexposed at the trip. Entitled to run in it and makes the race more interesting. 10/1 is about what his price should be imo |
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Yeh,i would think hes booked his ticket for Gold Cup.
Werent stopping there,and who knows if he will improve for another 2 furlongs or so? |
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he'll run in the Gold Cup - the owners bought Alary specifically as their Gold Cup horse and that one's bombed out twice so Sizing John will surely now be their runner - won one of the premier Grade 1 chases in Ireland over 3 miles on soft ground, well entitled to run in the Gold Cup.
And after yesterday, the owners will have Fox Norton in the Ryanair surely... |
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I have backed for Ryanair nrnb, if he were mine, Gold Cup, 100%
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Interesting dilemma - would have a favourites chance in the Ryanair but be about 5th or 6th best in Gold Cup with doubts about staying the trip.
A bird in the hand and all that. Empire of Dirt is very interesting for the Ryanair at double figure prices (won the C&D h'cap last year) if SJ goes for Gold. |
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Grand National is the Grand Plan for Empire Of Dirt, I think
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Don Poli finished 10l behind Don Cossack and Djakadam in last year's Gold Cup; the former finished just infront of Djakadam in the Lexus when the latter was given a quiet ride by Walsh.
I think Djakadam remains the one to beat of the Irish contingent; the winner Sizing John was trying 3m for the 1st time today, and the 2nd is an improving handicapper still about a stone inferior to Cue Card and Djakadam. |
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I backed Empire of Dirt for the Grand National back in November as they said that was the plan, but then entering him and running close up in a Grade 1 is going to ruin his handicap mark so I'm assuming they see him as a graded horse and will aim for Cheltneham given how much he loved the place last year.
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I don't think the handicapper for the GN will be that harsh, don't forget they don't use official ratings
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Bloody hell what was colm murphy doing to EOD all these years! Fair enough he won a Cheltenham handicap with him last year but surely they've missed the boat with him given his age, a case of what might have been imo
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Excellent shout on here gents - price has collapsed since the 40s available on Friday, a real live GC contender IMO after that showing.
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Chris Cook in Guardian reporting that Jessie Harrington has confirmed owners have decided Sizing John runs in the Gold Cup.
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Forgetting that I've a bet on him, I think it'a great they'd rather be fifth or sixth fav for a Gold Cup and still go for it, rather than be a strong second fav for the Ryanair.
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me, too, chief - but also they have a handful of other entries in the Ryanair but only Alary - who clearly is n't going to run - in the Gold Cup.
I don't think Sizing John will win personally but it's right that he has a go - and of course it would n't be unusual for me to be wrong  |
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Some fellas holding some nice prices. He has a shout for sure.
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Excellent call OP, well done SJ backers.
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well done great call !
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Great shout love this hoss. took 33s e/w in jan unfortunately it was for QMCC
Was laid in Ante Post market for £23 @ 999/1 |
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My efforts in this thread sum up my entire Festival - couldn't have been more wrong.
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what made you think he had no chance of staying the trip uncle?
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Maybe I'm not so **** after all - posted this on the horse racung thread:
unclepuncle 17 Mar 17 16:08 Pasha Du Polder might have won it last year but for Pendleton - 20/1 not a bad e/w price. |