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The fact that breathing operations do not need to be declared is getting some publicity currently. I'm sure most people agree that this information is important to punters, especially given some high profile success stories this season. I don't know if there's someone out there compiling lists of horses that are known to have had operations, but on the assumption that there isn't yet, I thought I'd start a thread for forumites to add to when they hear of a case (with a link if possible) in the run up to Cheltenham where the trainer is good enough to let us know.
I'll start with Peace & Co.
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10162103/peace-and-co-on-target-for-champion-hurdle-despite-breathing-op
I'll start with Peace & Co.
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10162103/peace-and-co-on-target-for-champion-hurdle-despite-breathing-op
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I've got one for tomorrow.
Kempton 1.35
Ballyhenry
Ben Pauling in a recent stable tour, "He has had a wind operation since Newbury - he made a bit of a noise there in that very heavy ground - he will be coming back for a couple of novice runs early March before going out to grass."
Kempton 1.35
Ballyhenry
Ben Pauling in a recent stable tour, "He has had a wind operation since Newbury - he made a bit of a noise there in that very heavy ground - he will be coming back for a couple of novice runs early March before going out to grass."
Twelve Roses (Kim Bailey) should be added to the list. Bailey trained Darna to win at the 2015 Festival and Darna had had a wind operation prior to that win.
I e-mailed Kim about the plans for Twelve Roses (he's one of the most open and straightforward people in the business) and he told me the horse is fine and waiting on better ground.
Rogerthebutler - If you ask him nicely I'm sure he'll also tell you that Twelve Roses has had a minor breathing op.
There should be procedural out there where any vet that performs a breathing op must log it with the BHA of whomever. Just a simple online database where the vet logs in and enters the info about the horse.
Also they need to enforce the rule where the trainer has the notify the stewards after a horse has bled. Sometimes they don't get a scope immediately and only find out after their own vet check him.
Also they need to enforce the rule where the trainer has the notify the stewards after a horse has bled. Sometimes they don't get a scope immediately and only find out after their own vet check him.
maelduin - I think it's safe to assume that there have been many occasions where a horse has bled but connections, acting in their own best interests, have not disclosed the fact prior to moving the horse on elsewhere.
^^ Happens way too often i'd say.
I'm not familiar but surely the on track vet has to file some sort of paperwork with the racecourse accounting for scopes etc... The idea of putting the onus on the trainer to notify the stewards of any bleeding is not good for us punters. Horse racing will never be fully transparent unfortunately.
I'm not familiar but surely the on track vet has to file some sort of paperwork with the racecourse accounting for scopes etc... The idea of putting the onus on the trainer to notify the stewards of any bleeding is not good for us punters. Horse racing will never be fully transparent unfortunately.
If the horse has finished out of the places it's quite a straightforward matter to wipe blood and mucus away and avoid the attentions of the vet.
Fair play Deakers. I had a little interest on that thanks to your info. Very well backed too.
You're very welcome AC. I've got a few "Wind Op" horses in my tracker. When I get some time next week I'll put them up here. Not sure how many will go to the Festival but the more we all know the better. (None are running this weekend)
Add Saphir Du Rheu to, what is at present, a very short list. Had a wind operation after disappointing in the Long Walk Hurdle.
Bit late I know, but Starchitect had had one ahead of yesterday's big handicap.
Put in a much improved showing
Put in a much improved showing
The Game Changer (Gordon Elliot mentioned it on a recent podcast).
This topic was discussed half an hour into ATR's "Sunday Forum" earlier today. Everyone on the panel in agreement that this information needs to be disclosed to the public.
There's an article in the Post today about Next Sensation, which says he's had a breathing op since his last run.
My current list, these come from various stable tours eg. ATR, The weekender etc.
Ballybough Pat
Crickel Wood
Cucklington - Entered Fontwell, 18/2
Flementime
Midnight Gem - Had one run since and disappointed
Miss Estela - Entered Market Rasen 21/2
Nightline - Entered Ascot 20/2
Set The Trend
Tiger Roll
Tjongejonge
Tycoon Prince
Not sure many, if any of these will run at the Festival but maybe a couple will cop before to add to your bank.
Ballybough Pat
Crickel Wood
Cucklington - Entered Fontwell, 18/2
Flementime
Midnight Gem - Had one run since and disappointed
Miss Estela - Entered Market Rasen 21/2
Nightline - Entered Ascot 20/2
Set The Trend
Tiger Roll
Tjongejonge
Tycoon Prince
Not sure many, if any of these will run at the Festival but maybe a couple will cop before to add to your bank.
D Pipe confirmed that Dynaste has had a wind operation since disappointing in the Long Walk Hurdle.
O'Faolains Boy has had his breathing done according to R Curtis at Grand National weights lunch.Still goes Gold Cup
Sue Smith
Blakemount - He just had a small wind operation which is why he hasn't been out. He is about ready to roll now there is a possibility I might give him a run over hurdles at Carlisle next meeting then he will be back chasing
Blakemount - He just had a small wind operation which is why he hasn't been out. He is about ready to roll now there is a possibility I might give him a run over hurdles at Carlisle next meeting then he will be back chasing
Excellent list dealers. Nice work and good of you to share it with us.
It states in the RP verdict for the Ascot Betfair Chase that Silvinaco Conti has had a minor breathing op since his King George no-show.
In his column today, Nicholls says that Arpege D'Alene has had an op.
Yep, finishing out the race very strongly. The ops work wonders.
Carole's Destrier - off the back of a win in the London National and on his way to the Ultima Business Solutions Handicap Chase at the Fez.
Aurore D'Estruval (entered in Mares hurdle) has had a wind operation since her last run.
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