Cheltenham Festival
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As we get nearer to the Festival, connections are now beginning to 'outline their targets'. Yanworth WILL go to the Neptune. Tombstone WILL go to the Supreme. But some of us know from experience that things rarely run so smooth and that some connections delight in turning our world upside down by putting us away.
Who are your candidates for the dreaded last minute target switch? This is your opportunity to make your call, irritate your fellow forumites and delight those with seemingly hopeless antepost tickets. Can Mullins be trusted? Where will Vroum Vroum motor up? Has Jonjo turned over a new leaf? Will Gigginstown throw their customary spanner into the works? Or perhaps you fancy Alan King has a trick or two up his sleeve?
So c'mon, let's have 'em. Remember Wounded Warrior!
Who are your candidates for the dreaded last minute target switch? This is your opportunity to make your call, irritate your fellow forumites and delight those with seemingly hopeless antepost tickets. Can Mullins be trusted? Where will Vroum Vroum motor up? Has Jonjo turned over a new leaf? Will Gigginstown throw their customary spanner into the works? Or perhaps you fancy Alan King has a trick or two up his sleeve?
So c'mon, let's have 'em. Remember Wounded Warrior!
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Coneygree to 'do a Binocular / Kicking King!'
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Don Poli 'awol' in the Irish Gold Cup this weekend; I'm sick of the shenanigan of the trainer again!
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Faugheen for the stayers hurdle cos WPM has Arctic Fire who can win the Champion ! :)
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in gravity/stupidity order:
1. Annie in the WH 2. Djakadam in the Ryanair 3. VVM in the GC 4. K Vic in the RSA 5. RTR in the Ryanair 6. Bellshill in the AB 7. Yorkhill in the Neptune 8. Pont A. in the RSA 9. Barters Hill in the Neptune 10. Don Poli in the National I expect 50% of the above to come true. |
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probably 2, but could I lay 3? sheesh .... good list timtin
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I 'll nominate Bellshill to end up in the AB, given Yanworth's Neptune claims and Up For Review's bomb out at Doncaster. As a result, Yorkhill to go to the Neptune in his place
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Think Felix yonger may end up going ryanair.
Timtim 8 isn't a shock it's ponts declared race. And would be a huge shock if any of the others came true |
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Apologies rtr going ryanair wouldn't be a huge shock,
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^^^ For my wallet I really need him too!
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I'll take a stab and also say roi des francs goes rsa.
Giggingstown themselves haven't said 4 miler to my knowledge, and Michael o leary does what he wants. |
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he's declared for National and RSA. He's 8/1 for first and 16/1 for latter. He has no chance in RSA, he got beat by RTF, he has a good shout over the longer trip and his odds suggests thats where he'll end. It's nr 8 on my list for Mullins opting for RSA with him instead of Black Hercules due to owner also having NMH in that.
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RTR was close in last year GC, if he ends in Ryanair it'll be a v stupid and shocking thing because he only has Djak(with stitches) to beat based strictly on last year GC positions.
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I would love Outlander in the 4 miler if Roi Des Francs does go RSA.
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Playing the percentages timtin. From a purist point of view, I think he should be in the GC - backed him in it last year and backed him in it for this year too.
However, just by trying to predict where horses will be placed, and I don't think they'll want to be rely on Valseur Lido in the Ryanair - he has shown he is not good enough this year. If no Vautour, RTR is streets ahead of the others in the Ryanair imo. |
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No way outlander would go 4 miler on breeding by stowaway. Will be jlt or rsa although I am hoping rsa
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On RUK half term report, one of the panel (timeform bloke) talked up Outlander a bit for the 4 miler. His argument is that the race has changed a lot recently, so they basically crawl at a snails pace for 3m, and then a 1m sprint at the end. No idea if that's true though because I don't study times.
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Don't know what yout on timtim regards pont. Saying his odds suggest 4miler?
Completely the oposite |
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Someone mentioned it was under consideration and all the massive prices that were on offer have been hoovered up recently. I guess it wouldn't have been entered if it wasn't a possibility
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Chief - that was exactly the argument put to me - re Outlander
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It's 80.0 on exchanges for 4 miler
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I might just take a chance at that price
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thats why its in my list @chief, I know thats their thinking but I still find that a mistake.
@scoob, I'm talking about PONT A. bookies odds which read 8/1 10/1 for National and 14/1 16/1 RSA. For me it'd be a mistake for going RSA bcause he'd be more suited for the longer trip. |
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Back your won judgement.
Absolutely no chance he goes there for me. But I have been chipping away since September on outlander rsa at an average of 55.0 and a small bet on jlt 28.0. The weekend may be very informative. And if your going to back I'd do before then. |
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Tim tin pont alexandre is 78.0 on exchanges for 4 miler and 20.0 rsa. Paddies go 14 rsa and top price 4miler. Very likely he goes rsa.
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I asumed you just backed it delsie, if not someone's stalking you on here
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If UFR doesn't end up in the AB, I wouldn't be surprised if Long Dog went to it (if the ground was good anyway). He's been taken out of the Deloitte, so his next few entries will be interesting, although it is a long shot going from 2m up to 3m in one go.
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Price already gone, scoob. He who hesitates...
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Just seen Outlander tipped up for the NH on RUK as chief said - that's probably why the prices have gone
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Chief I agree about long dog I think that's a possibility myself. But I have a long shot scenario where townshend bolts up on Thursday and goes neptune and allows long dog to go bartlett although just as likely townshend could go bartlett.
Complete longshot I'm aware, as townshend likely may not win or if he does prob goes handicap assuming he gets a mark. |
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Townshend has had his problems hasn't he? Is he ready to run?
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Likely to run Thursday. No idea if he's had problems although the late start indicates so. Wish he was in the barylett exchange market. But in all reality he's running in the race the Martin pipe runner normally runs in for mullins assuming he's declared
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Theres also One at a huge price in bartlett I really want to be on, diddnt realise market was suspended due to declarations.
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me too - if its the same one ill go halves
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Anyone's guess where Outlander goes now. Cooper said he had speed for the JLT but happily a sea of blue for the 4 miler which is where I want to see him. As low as 8-1. Looked the perfect trial to me - jumped like a dream and travelled. Looked ideal for one of those slow run 4 milers.
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Hope it's the JLT.
Way his jockey spoke it has to be on the cards,but who knows these days??!! |
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Well it wasn't like we didn't expect it. Festival looming and the fun and games have gone into overdrive. Looking back at my original post, I see I ponder whether Jonjo has turned over a new leaf. Well... first the fake Minella Rocco gamble in a race that 24hours later he is not entered in - and now we have the More Of That saga. Target undecided - that's a week after Jonjo tells us how much he fancies him for the RSA. Now AP is tipping him up for the JLT apparently and all of a sudden there's a sea of blue for that race while he stays around the same price for the RSA. Guessing the JLT is AP's idea - he never called the horse right when he was a rider.
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