Vroum Vroum Mag

Was just about to make a thread for this. 1) Is it a prep? Wouldn't have thought so given she was put over fences immediately. 2) Does it mean she is going Mares Hurdle while Annie Power goes World Hurdle? Can't be ruled out but highly unlikely, they want a Cheltenham win with Annie Power and the Mares Hurdle is a penalty kick for her. Maybe if she won last year (don't remind me), it might be different. 3) Does it mean Vroum Vroum Mag is World Hurdle bound? Probably the most likely reason for to switch to hurdles. Just would be shocked that she's not Ryanair bound ... unless a certain Vautour was heading there ...

Agree could be world hurdle bound and paddies were first to put her in the betting at 10/1. I may be wrong but on her french hurdles form I would in no way be inclined to back her in a grade 1 over hurdles. I think the way she jumps a fence is her best asset and  she will lose that advantage over hurdles.

Or is it an anti climax and they're simply getting a run into her without adding to her handicap mark over fences? Yet another Mullins puzzle, as if we don't have enough already!

* Grade 1 horse in the making even.

I wouldn't look too much into her running over hurdles tomorrow... there's nothing else to run her in until after christmas and they obviously want to get a race into her now after recent postponements

You could be close Fashion. Would reckon Ponte Alex if fit would be too good for the 4 miler.

always felt the hcap chase was the race for vvm off her mark

so whats richy rich got the 5.30 or does he go home by then

Clonmel off today so back waiting to see when, where and what type of race she pitches up in next.

""She could be a World Hurdle type or one for the Mares' Hurdle but a lot of her ability is in her jumping, too - remember how well she jumps a fence."

Knew they were up to something. Been drifting on the exchange for the Ryanair last few days. Ricci going for the WH/MH/MNH trifecta. Love it.

Willie speaking in riddles. Tread carefully. "remember how well she jumps a fence" gives him the perfect get out. All options very much open for VVM. Personal thought is the Mullins "chasing" conundrum starts to get a little clearer after King George by way that If Vautour clearly gets 3miles then VVM remains a Ryanair option.

2m hurdle race tomorrow at Clonmel, 1/10.

She's my first AP for the festival. I won't be having many, but took 7/1 for any race regardless.

Thanks maeilduin. Great bet and i'li be surprised if it's not singles figures by 2moro.

I agree that Annie power is nailed on to go mares route, they gave the world a bash never won it and now especially that the mares is a grade1 they will keep her in that! Vroom will only go if something happens to Annie! I'm like a few others and see her going Ryanair and have a small bet on her for that especially the way it looks like cutting up! As most at the top of the market for it look like going elsewhere so could be a nice chance for her.

Cant see them switching back to fences with her, but intrigued as to what they are planning.

Suppose she might still be saved and miss Chelts altogether.

Maybe so. That looks the likeliest to me. Or Annie WH?! And VVM in the Mares? Starting to look as these will be the two races for the horses....

Willie Mullins is keen to learn more about Vroum Vroum Mag's potential Cheltenham Festival target if he allows her to line up in the OLBG.com Mares' Hurdle at Ascot on Saturday.

The seven-year-old is unbeaten in six starts over fences in Ireland and was just as impressive when switched back to smaller obstacles at Clonmel last month.

Mullins told OLBG: "I'm very keen to bring her over for the OLBG Mares' Hurdle at Ascot on Saturday.

"She's entered in the World Hurdle and the OLBG Mares' Hurdle at the Festival and Saturday will help us decide which route to take."

Vroum Vroum Mag is one of 12 entries for the Ascot Grade Two contest, with Desert Queen, Aurore D'Estruval and The Govaness among her possible opponents.

I cannot believe she is top price 10/1 for the World Hurdle, she is that purely because of connections and reputation alone.

Run exclusively in mares hurdles and chases, with her last 5 races all being 8 runners or less, nearly always on heavy ground and massive odds on in all of them.  Even though she'll get the mares allowance, she is 13lbs behind Thistlecrack.

Not one for me sorry.

I'm with wellchief here. The fact she stays hurdling is a negative in itself for me as it points to her not being as good as the yard's main novice chasers in either of the 3 divisions - she seems versatile enough to be in the frame for any trip. It was only the other week Mullins was saying how good she looked over fences wasn't it?

I think the only possible scenario i'd consider her for any hurdles race is if it's the mares on the back of Annie power not lining up but even then she'd be overbet and around the same price Annie is now with plenty chasing their Annie ante post loss on the replacement. That would only strengthen my play in the mares as it is and i'd be going back in again -  i've already backed polly peachum each way 12/1 to get a better return if she places than what an annie power win would get me at best price now. Much less risk, especially after showing she can go on heavy now which hints at an improvement again over the summer. Can't have the govanness reversing that form on spring ground so can't work out what 3 can pass her based on how consistently she posts figures of mid 150s.

If she went the world hurdle it'd hopefully beef Thistlecrack's price back up a bit and i'd be back in there on him.

Unless you're going to gamble on her target at today's prices there's surely other bets to be had over the 4 days at the same price she'd be once targets confirmed?