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04 Feb 15
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Coming to the conclusion CF is the answer to the Champ Chase.
Arkle winners do especially well and whilst it didn't do that it was a 'miracle' reversal.
NRNB eway at 7/1 is a steal!
Arkle winners do especially well and whilst it didn't do that it was a 'miracle' reversal.
NRNB eway at 7/1 is a steal!
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I found it interesting that he ran over 2 and a half at Thurles and was entered for a 2 and a half race at the abandoned card at Clonmel tomorrow implying that the intermediate distance is more up his street also implying that he may go for the Ryanair.
With Dynaste out, it also makes that race a more attractive target. If you believe Cue Card is not the horse of old and you're not a Don Cossack fan (a horse on Thurles running would be within a pound or two of Champagne Fever), then there really isn't much else to choose from in the Ryanair. John's Spirit, Balder Success, Taquin Du Seuil, Ma Filleule & Menorah best of the rest. It seems the obvious race for Champagne Fever. |
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My view exactly SYT, said it on about three different Champagne Fever threads!
I do think the Ryanair looks the easier race to win and have backed him for it. Its not as cut and dry as some think it is over what race he'll run in. |
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Got to admit ive fancied this bugger for quite some time for the Champ Chase but as you say with Dynaste out,Alferof drifting in everything its entered in and the others pretty much beatable it has got me thinking!!!
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From my point of view, he would have got close to Don last time (wouldn't have beaten him), but we know he is best fresh, so he's not too far off the clear Ryanair fav.
With the CC you are scratching back to last years, and the year before form. Based on this season they have treated him like a stayer, who they now have a benchmark with, with Don Cossack. Going into the unknown with Sprinter, SDG and a 2014/15 Dodging Bullets who is a different horse this year. Could be pocket talking but backed him at 9's ages ago for Ryanair, and had pretty much written it off. However, when Dynaste came out today, went back in again at 19.0 on here. |
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Remains to be seen if taquin will make any race also. STFD not running, and nothing confirmed for the denman until jonjo schools them both(tds and holywell).
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Any opinions on Champagne Fever's two entries this weekend? In the Red Mills Chase (2m 4f) and the Ascot Chase (2m 5f)....Ballycasey also entered in both....possibility one will run in Gowran and one in Ascot.
Anyway ... they keep entering Champagne Fever in two and a half mile races and so far the only indication that he'd run in the Champion Chase is a fleeting remark from Ricci after his last race. If I hadn't already lost money on this horse by backing him for the Gold Cup (although he remains in the race after the latest forfeit stage along with 25 others), I would now backing him for the Ryanair. |
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hmmm, he's a much bigger price for the Ryanair..... on here he's currently 19.0... versus 7.4 for the CChase
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You can look at it this way too....SS is not the horse of old, that's pretty much a certainty, SDG is coming into the race after an awful preparation this year....other than that you've got the likes of DB who CF put away last year in the arkle and Mr. Mole who has a lot to find....just think a flat out 2 miles on decent ground is what this horse is all about, and I've said before, walsh did not make enough use of him last year in the arkle where he could have pressed a little harder at times and strung them out more.....turning in last year, they were all in a heap, this wasn't due to CF not having it in him to get rid of them, it was down to walsh not maximising his greatest asset of his strong gallop more thoroughly through the race.
I don't think DB has improved to any great note this year, he was beat fair and square first time, he won a poor poor tingle creek by probably running his race and he picked up the pieces from an unrecognizable SS, but in a division that is very much up for grabs DB is entitled to respect and is coming into the race playing the part of last years SDG and we all know how that turned out...think CF is a far classier animal than him though. |
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Incidentally, anyone who can convince themselves that CF is Ryanair bound, should (bearing in mind that mullins wants to cover all bases and couldn't let the QM go uncontested) also start to consider the possibility of UDS being supplemented for the QM leaving vautour being allowed to run in the arkle instead of wasting a dart by running both him and VL in the JLT....simples
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Been considering that for ages Duffy,but it don't go down well on this forum.
Think it makes perfect sense myself,think he would win the QM,and Vautour would have more chance in the Arkle than the JLT if UDS ain't in it. |
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I fully expect him to line up in the QMCC, but on paper the Ryanair looks much easier imo.
He's proved he can go toe to toe with the 4/1 fav and with his festival record could reverse the placings with Don Cossack. As tomdeane said on a different thread, it'd be the weirdest QMCC prep I have ever seen. Nothing at all this year says QMCC to me except the market on here! |
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Agree it is not the perfect prep for a Champion Chase but he has been running in Grade 1's & 2's which for me is far more important.
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Champagne Fever running in the Champion chase depends on how Ballycasey gets on tomorrow (as well as CFs own performance of course)
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Can only see CF in Ch Ch
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Can't understand the prep run again today a month or so till the Champ Chase. Could leave Cheltenham behind here
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I would think he is out for a clear round today, anything else is a bonus.
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Can understand and see the angle for backing CF for the QMCC and it must be something they're considering, the market speaks strongly in favour of him running there, but i've gone against it and backed for the Ryanair at twice the price. He's never looked a Chamion Chaser to me, far more of a stayer, so I hope they give the horse his ideal conditions for a change instead of poncing around. My god what a whooping ego Ruby Walsh has listening to him on the morning line.
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strange how people confuse ego with directness.
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it's in the tone of his replies, he gets shirty when people question his/trainers choices.
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Don't he just,very defensive. He acts like he's expecting it,and I guess the way he and Mullins treat the racing public with complete content,it ain't really surprising.
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Contempt!!
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Anyways when Balleycasey hacks up today CF will be running in the CC.
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Champagne Fever has been a huge disappointment over fences
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Massive, i thought he was one of the best hurdlers to go chasing in recent times. Funny how things work out.
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Its early days yet in the life of CF.
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i missed his race today, how did he jump ?
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Settled him in Sonko and just popped away. Didnt really need to attack any, took over in the straight
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Looked better further he went to me. Cut for both races, naturally.
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Job done but when so slow,who knows where they go,imo should be Ryanair but suppose wait for Ballycasey in few mins.
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Shocking effort from Ballycasey
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Bally who?
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Fever must be Ryanair now.
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Ballydonkey
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Sadly though CF will prob go QMCC. PP still laying 10/1 after Bally's flop. They MUST be informed to do that.
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unless you think that UDS is going to run in the QM, then CF is nailed on to run in it....it would be madness to leave yourself empty handed in the QM to have a runner in the Ryanwotsit...and UDS is trading at 50's on here, so it's quite clear what is going to happen.
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it's not about having a runner, it's about putting a horse under it's right conditions. UDS does not even enter calculations. He's an Arkle horse and won't be running in any other race.
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PP actually cut to 8's now. Second thoughts, perhaps.
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CF for the QM and now Balleycasey has given them a line of form, Boston Bob to be Ruby's ride in The Ryanair
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2 miles quick ground, gallop from end to end are his optimum conditions IMO, he stays 2.5 yes, and just because he won over it today doesn't mean that's his best trip, he stays it and outclassed that lot today, he has 3 strong performances at the festival all at 2 miles, in the Ryanair, walsh won't use that strong gallop that he possesses over that trip, he'll take his foot off the gas from time to time, and he's vulnerable to something coming at him late on....he's got a strong gallop as his best asset, he can use it(better than he did in the arkle) over the shorter trip....only an opinion though.
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