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By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 18 Jan 15 15:39
Agreed. Hurdles or Fences though?!

Form at Chelts and loves better ground... One to watch closely.
By:
.Fidway.
When: 18 Jan 15 17:11
Eastlake for the Grand Annual
By:
Wicketd
When: 18 Jan 15 17:27
not really a dark one but olofi off 142 atm over hurdles...has managed to travel extremely well in very good company (the new one, rock on ruby, vanieteux)

won a greatwood...
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 18 Jan 15 17:38
How exactly is Ted Veale a dark horse??CrazyLaugh
By:
Benjy
When: 18 Jan 15 20:09
Join The Clan in the Pertempts is interesting imo. May struggle to get in off 133 though.
By:
cufcno1
When: 18 Jan 15 20:14
Thomas crapper for the novice handicap on the first day,roughly on last year's winners mark,been running against horses over 2 mile like vibrato valtat and irish saint on bad ground over too short a trip,stepped up in trip on good ground will bring improvement,and loves Cheltenham,2nd to Don poli in Martin pipe hurdle last year.16-1
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Jan 15 20:25
Thomas Crapper has certainly been running over the wrong trip this season.
By:
bigben
When: 18 Jan 15 21:17
Agree about Thomas Crapper. I wouldn't be to sure that he's been running over the wrong trip as a plot though. The trainer has some odd ideas IMO, I remember him saying that Restless Harry could be an Arkle horse, when in truth he really wanted 4 miles.
By:
cufcno1
When: 18 Jan 15 21:20
He was never going to beat vibrato valtat over 2 though,I think he is rated 138 now,last year's winner was 139,just with him liking Cheltenham,big believer in horses coming back the next year and running well again,horses for courses and all that
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Jan 15 21:22
Next Sensation could well be ruined or could be a plot horse.
By:
bigben
When: 18 Jan 15 21:24
Completely agree, I just think it might by accident rather than a plot. He's definitely of interest though.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Jan 15 21:30
Nothing better than festival form, plus TC is the best named horse in racing.
By:
bigben
When: 18 Jan 15 21:41
He has indeed. If you've never heard it, have a listen to the commentary towards the end of his first bumper run Laugh
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 18 Jan 15 21:42
I like Eastlake too though not sure any in the green and gold are true dark horses - he ran well yesterday under a tender,considerate ride at the business end of the race.

On a different note, every time I look, Malcolm Jefferson's stable seems to be out of form, he might end up with a couple of nicely handicapped horses when the festival comes around and knows how to get one ready for the festival.
By:
cufcno1
When: 18 Jan 15 21:56
My boss is Jefferson's niece so I will find out about his horses,especially attaglance,Brian Hughes,what a clown
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 18 Jan 15 21:57
lol ben, just did. down the pan
By:
wellchief
When: 18 Jan 15 22:08
Guitar Pete (if still sound, hasn't run since October, so don't know) in County Hurdle.

2 times Grade 1 winner last year, won 1 Grade 2, and placed in the Triumph and now rated 132.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 19 Jan 15 08:14
If you wouldn't mind sharing any info on Jefferson's yard cufc.

He never sends one to The Festival for fun and whilst it hasn't been a thrilling year for his inmates, I'll be closely examining anything he enters irrespective of that.
By:
cufcno1
When: 19 Jan 15 14:55
Roger when he had a double a couple of years ago he told my boss he was as confident of them winning as much as when dato star ran,attaglance should have won last year ! Will do mate
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 19 Jan 15 16:04
thanks, cufc (Carlisle?) - I see Attaglance is entered in Skybet Chase at Doncaster on Saturday, but would presumably need decent ground even if it's on.

Mindboggling achievement to get both him and Cape Tribulation to win at both Cheltenham and Aintree three years ago, not sure he really got the credit he deserved for that.

Urban Hymn could be interesting in the race Attaglance was runner up in last year also.
By:
cufcno1
When: 19 Jan 15 16:24
I am that stupid I only backed cape tribulation that year,and didn't back any of them at Aintree,do feel attaglance trained this year for the festival with good ground in mind !
By:
spothediference
When: 19 Jan 15 16:25
keeping an eye on minella foru in hacp chases but dont know if they intend on bringing him over.
By:
Benjy
When: 31 Jan 15 14:56

Jan 18, 2015 -- 2:09PM, Benjy wrote:


Join The Clan in the Pertempts is interesting imo. May struggle to get in off 133 though.


He'll get in now at least...

By:
ReaseHeath
When: 09 Feb 15 18:09
more random thoughts:

Cape Tribulation is entered in Pertemps qualifier at Haydock this coming weekend...

Edeymi was barely put in the race during the qualifier at Musselburgh and still managed to finish fourth (looked like they were trying to finish 8th!).

Admittedly, probably the Pertemps qualifiers are tricky because there are many others with similar modus operandi.

Finally, I probably need to go back and watch Betfair Hurdle again, 'cos more than one hard luck story - Arzal's run was striking though, hampered to the extent that he dropped back to be last, nursed back into the race by his jockey and finishing a never nearer sixth - possibly flattered to some extent by running on through beaten horses who raced on the pace plus, in any event the front two were well clear. Nevertheless a lot to like about his effort, not least the ride he got from young conditional Paul O'Brien.

I was thinking County Hurdle, but looks like they're aiming at Imperial Cup first, hope the young lad keeps the ride...
By:
gazovic
When: 10 Feb 15 11:07
^^^ re. Arzal...... Conds race mebbes?
By:
gutfeeling
When: 10 Feb 15 16:39
Padge, Just hope the bookies haven't noticed it too otherwise it'll be saved for another day.
By:
benkneale03
When: 10 Feb 15 16:54
Stellar Notion was rated 137 a few weeks back and needed to run again to qualify for a handicap chase but  had to avoid any more than a 3lbs penalty to get in.

Think the above has more to do with his run  when 7th and  his career form now looking like 112117 rather than him being exposed so early - doesn't usually happen with that yard.

Hopefully gets priced up as exposed with a big point to prove off a big weight for a smaller yard. 16s now but hoping for 25/1 as more price up.
By:
hunter71
When: 10 Feb 15 17:14
cause of causes  dont know witch raceConfused
By:
Ming_the_Merciless
When: 15 Feb 15 17:23
cause of causes .... dark horse? it's like a bonfire upon a lighthouse that's being struck by lightening on the darkest night of the year Laugh
By:
gazovic
When: 15 Feb 15 19:38
^^^^^ brilliant. nearly typed lol
By:
wellchief
When: 20 Feb 15 19:12
My choice of Guitar Pete never got any handicap entries.  Must have been injured after his last race.  Shame - a G1 winner rated 132.
By:
wellchief
When: 20 Feb 15 19:31
Having a quick scan at the handicaps, its noticeable that PP are well the lowest price for Abyyssial in the Coral Cup - may be a sign of where he will run?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 20 Feb 15 19:40
Massive fan of Abbyssial, you would think he will be run in either the coral cup or the county
By:
wellchief
When: 20 Feb 15 19:46
Same here Sonko, his front running win at Punchestown last year was fantastic.  Yeah, I think he'll run in one of the County or Coral.  He's in the World Hurdle but really doubt he'll run in that, and I think the Coral Cup will suit him trip wise.

Talking myself into my first handicap bet at 16's, but at this stage I don't know whether it's too risky.  I suppose 365 will be 10's NRNB after midnight.
By:
bigben
When: 21 Feb 15 18:10
Le Mercury in The Coral Cup.

He as staying on nicely last time over shorter & wasn't given a hard time.

I wonder if he's been campaigned with this race in mind?

At 20/1 NRNB I'm more than happy to take a chance on him.
By:
needbinoculars
When: 22 Feb 15 11:39
Tango de juilley could be interesting if going for the plate. Venetia had 3 winners in race recently (same as pipe). Might be a bit younger and higher in the weights (142) than her other winners but if the likes of Rajdhani express and taquin de seuil run, he should have a nice weight. He's a right monkey though, pulls hard, whacks a few, better right handed ? - got Venetia winner all over it - but seems to be maturing nicely.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 01 Mar 15 12:37
Ted Veale-Grand annual

Probably
By:
1st time poster
When: 01 Mar 15 19:11
venetia will have to be able to turn form on at the switch of a light,umpteen runners since she had a winner,she always seems to find one but think she,s had her post xmas run this year
By:
jimmy777
When: 01 Mar 15 21:23
Trustan times for the Pertemps
Sew on Target for the Grand Annual
Guitar Pete
Gevrey Chambertin
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